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The One and Only Official CEP Ron Paul Thread

supertrav77 said:
"and it's not helping him that he hangs out with the 9-11 conspiracy kooks."

"However, he will lose my vote if he keeps associating 9-11 conspiracy kooks."
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Listen to the LiveLeak interview. Ron Paul emphatically states he doesn't believe the government carried out 9/11. He has NEVER said this. He has said though that he supports a new investigation as he believes its likely people within the government has covered up its own negligence. Big difference. Gravel and Kucinich have also said they support a new investigation. Paul has very diverse supporters, are you suggesting he shouldn't talk to people who have views differing from his and yours?


Furthermore, the "kook" and "nut" and other pejoratives are really starting to get old. According to polls (see below), there are a great number of people that aren't satisfied with the "official explanation" of events of 9/11. If you wish to label between 20-50 % or the U.S. population as "kooks", "nuts" and "wackos" simply for having unanswered questions, it says more about you than those you attempt to label in my opinion. :\

NSFW:
In August 2004, a Zogby International poll indicated that 49.3% of New York City residents and 41% of New York citizens "overall" say U.S. leaders "knew in advance that attacks were planned on or around September 11, 2001, and that they consciously failed to act".[8] In July 2006, a Scripps Howard and Ohio University poll concluded that "Thirty-six percent of respondents overall said it is "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that federal officials either participated in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon or took no action to stop them", "sixteen percent said it's "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that the collapse of the twin towers in New York was aided by explosives secretly planted in the two buildings" and "twelve percent suspect the Pentagon was struck by a military cruise missile in 2001 rather than by an airliner captured by terrorists."[9] A May 2006 Zogby International poll indicated that 42% of Americans more likely agree with people who believe that "the US government and its 9/11 Commission concealed or refused to investigate critical evidence that contradicts their official explanation of the September 11th attacks, saying there has been a cover-up."[10] A September 2006 Ipsos-Reid poll found that 22 percent of Canadians believe "the attacks on the United States on September 11, 2001, had nothing to do with Osama Bin Laden and were actually a plot by influential Americans."[11] An October 2006 New York Times and CBS news poll showed that 28 percent believe members of the Bush Administration are mostly lying about "what they knew prior to September 11th, 2001, about possible terrorist attacks against the United States."[12]
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e1evene1even said:
Listen to the LiveLeak interview. Ron Paul emphatically states he doesn't believe the government carried out 9/11. He has NEVER said this.
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I know that he personally has never state a belief in the conspiracy but he hangs out with people who do. I realize that he's desperate for publicity but come on. Is ok to go on Klan TV as long as you state that you're not a racist afterwards?

e1evene1even said:
If you wish to label between 20-50 % or the U.S. population as "kooks", "nuts" and "wackos" simply for having unanswered questions, it says more about you than those you attempt to label in my opinion.
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It's one thing to have unanswered questions. It's quite another to believe that there were explosives planted in the WTC, that one of the jets fired a missle shortly before crashing into one of the towers or that the pentagon was hit by a missle and not a plane. I will call anyone who believes the above a kook and if that happens to be 50% of the US, then so be it.
 
supertrav77 said:
I know that he personally has never state a belief in the conspiracy but he hangs out with people who do. I realize that he's desperate for publicity but come on. Is ok to go on Klan TV as long as you state that you're not a racist afterwards?



It's one thing to have unanswered questions. It's quite another to believe that there were explosives planted in the WTC, that one of the jets fired a missle shortly before crashing into one of the towers or that the pentagon was hit by a missle and not a plane. I will call anyone who believes the above a kook and if that happens to be 50% of the US, then so be it.
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Again, who does he associate with that push conspiracy theories?
 
Alex Jones interviewed him. Big deal, Alex Jones interviews a lot of people. And maybe the Student Scholars for 9/11 Truth associate themselves with him, but I doubt they have any official endorsement from him or his campaign.
 
Shit, Alex Jones interviewed ann coulter... kook that she is.
 
Ron Paul ‘Surprise Fave Among Troops’

Wednesday, August 1st, 2007 in News, Politics by Eric Garris|

From the August 6 edition of The Army Times (print edition only, not online):

Washington

Surprise fave among troops

WHAT’S UP: Among Republicans running for president, the anti-war candidate — Texas Rep. Ron Paul — has the highest total of campaign contributionns from service members, according to the most recent Federal Election Commission reports. Paul collected $14,840 from service members, slightly more than the $14,775 collected by Arizona Sen. John McCain, a supporter of the war in Iraq. The other Republican candidates got $2,600 or less from contributors who identified themselves as service members.

WHAT’S NEXT: Paul, who served as a flight surgeon in the Air Force in the 1960s, and McCain, a Navy pilot who was a prisoner of war in Vietnam, could not be further apart in their views of the Iraq war, which is the biggest military issue so far in the 2008 campaign that is just beginning. The current front-runner in the race, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani, received $2,550 from military contributors, the FEC report shows.
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http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/08/01/the-army-times-ron-paul-surprise-fave-among-troops/
 
Seems a shame as people really like Ron Paul, but Guliani's gonna ride "9-11" all the way to election day.
 
Ron Paul Leads Republicans in Web Traffic by a Whopping 45%

Christopher Costigan
Gambling911.com
Friday Aug 3, 2007

If web traffic has any relevance in determining which candidate becomes the next US President, Ron Paul has just won....by a long shot.

A recent review by ClickZ.com has the Texas Republican representative with 45.38% of the overall market share, followed by Mitt Romney at a distant 13.93%. Ron Paul gained 6 percentage points over the previous week. Both Rudy Giuliani and John McCain lost around 4 percentage points.

Among the Democrats, Barack Obama continues to be a strong front runner, though he lost 6 percentage points following the CNN/YouTube Debate while Hillary Clinton at 24.14% gained nearly 5 percentage points.

Interestingly, Ron Paul has taken the lead from Obama among all web searches (Democrat and Republican) this week.

So who are the bottom feeders in both parties?

Bill Richardson and Chris Dodd barely have 2% of the overall market among Democrats while Tommy Thompson and Jim Gillmore lag far behind on the Republican side.

Web traffic also suggests that Mike Gravel was helped the most by the recent CNN/YouTube Debate. His web market share jumped from 1.50% to 8.15% following the debate.

http://www.gambling911.com/Ron-Paul-080307.html
 
^^ sorry but that videos not very impressive imho Ronald Reagan probly said good things about lots of people.
 
sure, I bet he did, but how many of the those people are running in this election? I think the point is that all of these other politicians are trying to attach themselves to Reagan's legacy, meanwhile Reagan actually spoke fondly of Paul.

I agree its obviously not the most impressive video, but its not the worst either. I try to post whatever RP stuff I come across.
 
e1evene1even said:
sure, I bet he did, but how many of the those people are running in this election? I think the point is that all of these other politicians are trying to attach themselves to Reagan's legacy, meanwhile Reagan actually spoke fondly of Paul.

I agree its obviously not the most impressive video, but its not the worst either. I try to post whatever RP stuff I come across.
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And good on you for it!
I've been slacking :(

11-11, if you want admin privileges (i.e. want to take over) the forums or wiki at http://revolutioni.st let me know.
Or... contribute in any other way.

I'm looking for a replacement prior to getting locked away.
You have a freaky enough mind to meet my standards ;)
 
ABC Reset Republican Debate Tally After Ron Paul Win?

Free Market News
Sunday, August 5, 2007

ABC TV apparently reset its tally of who won the Republican debate it broadcast on August 5, Sunday morning.

At 10 AM EST, Congressman Ron Paul (R-Tex) was winning the debate with over 1,000 votes. Mitt Romney was next with 106. After the debate at approximately 11:10 AM EST when the tally was rechecked, ABC showed Ron Paul had just 445 votes. Second was “Nobody Won. I’m Voting Democratic.”

Of course, it could all be an innocent gliche, and perhaps ABC will explain these tallies or see fit to rectify them. But it has long been FMNN’s contention, along with others, that Ron Paul, an old fashioned Jeffersonian conservative, would serve as a metaphor and magnifying glass for America’s current political difficulties and expanding corruption.

The debate itself was apparently little promoted. In fact, ABC marketed the debate so shallowly that Drudgereport.com didn’t seem to carry a blurb about it on its front page, and neither did Google News.

To set the stage for the debate, ABC moderators began with polling numbers that showed Ron Paul at just two percent, yet the numbers on the ABC website, at 10 AM EST and again at the end of the debate (before the tally was reduced), showed him winning the debate, as he has before, by a wide margin.

A search of Internet sites revealed some confusion about the debates times and where it was airing. Posted one confused would-be viewer: "What a bizzare time to hold a debate and what a screwy format for a debate. It won’t air in my area until 11:00 am."

Ron Paul will likely win the online debate poll by large numbers in any case. But changing poll numbers always generates questions. ABC is said to have manipulated its comment boards before as regards Ron Paul.

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=46813
 
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