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The one and only crack thread (I think)

Well fuck... just been doing some fairly standard journal scouring (what?! Don't even pretend you thought I had a life!) and stumbled across couple of scant pieces regarding Levamisole and in particular its application to the Cocaine trade.

It's well accepted that Levamisole presented an intriguing addition given its infamous antihelminthic and immunosuppressant (to chemotherapeutic extent...) properties which are not carried by the more fiscally viable options such as Mannitol while presenting zero in terms of positive acitivity addiction. The true reason may be much smarter than ever anticipated.

At low doses Levamisole acts as little more than a toxic excipient (comparative activity: 0.015-0.03% Coke) but once its serum concentration becomes appreciable its metabolic fate becomes one of clinical interest. That product being the infamous Aminorex.
Aminorex is theorised to possess tricyclic activity but with the fun little quirk of its SERT modulation being that of reuptake inhibition, rather than release as is its function at DAT and NET. Now given Cocaine itself possesses low but clinically significant SRI activity and Aminorex having an effective half-life exceeding that of its compatriot it would not be too unreasonable to suggest that the combination could be much greater than the sum of its parts - providing a more balanced effect profile with a unique profile that cannot be matched even by 100% pure relevant isolates and a duration extended beyond the perils of the cliff of Coca.

Levamisole --> Aminorex bioconversion
Aminorex 5-HT reuptake properties
Cautionary review of Aminorex type toxicity in Cocaine abuse
Angranulocytotic capacity of Levamisole is of a rate-limiting step
 
Glad there's a crack thread...someone feom the H thread started one a couple years ago but it obviously disappeared into the cyber void. I gots a question...I stopped buying crack from the street a long time ago and started washing back coke instead. Began with bicarb then switched to ammonia not that long after. I simply put the tunchi in a spoon, chopped fine, then add enough ammonia for it to float. Then I gently heat till the coke turns to oil, then dab it bit by bit onto the tip of a blade till its all gone, then I rinse with fresh water to remove the ammonia. My question is this...sometimes with certain batches of Charlie, after dabbing at the oil with the blade, it doesn't harden. Worst case it forms a sticky ball which remains soft and gooey and is a fukkin 'mare. Best case it goes rock hard immediately. Does anyone know why it sometimes doesn't harden? I figure it's down to a cut, rather than the quality of the coke as I've had people really rate batches that I've thought were shit cos it didn't rock up solid??
 
I think we may actually have a relevant thread, I'll have a check in a sec and possibly merge. :)

Re: crack mush - I would imagine it's down to the use of (proto-)amphetamines as a cut. Most of them when liberated from their conjugate acid exist as viscous and corrosive oils with a yellow tinge. Ammonia tek-ed gear is always less solid than the ghetto bicarb simply due to the lack of a solid coating that forms the extra mass seen in the latter product.
If you want to rock up your gear solidly make sure you cool it rapidly while applying light pressure - as it solidifies it forms far more bonds in the lattice but will still crumble as it should when needed. :)
 
Yeah I've found when rocking up coke that doesnt form an instant solid rock the best way to do it is put the mush in a sandwich bag corner like u get gear in n twist it up tight n chuck in the freezer for an hour, that usually ends up with a solid stone
 
Thanks for answering the question fellas. Kinda confirms what I suspected regarding cut - as some coke goes rock hard instantly as soon as it sticks to the tip of the blade.
Sprout - I understand the part about cooling the oil RAPIDLY (ie in my case use an ice cold blade tip to dab the oil), however, what do you mean when u say "while applying light pressure"?
 
Not many crack heads on bluelight evidently? Got a g of coke today n washed it back is pretty decent kit, good price too. Whenever I've scored off the street last few years I can't believe some of the utter garbage that gets peddled. I reckon most shotters have access to decent kit but choose to buy n sell the cheaper shite cos it's more profitable so long as there are fools to buy it. Cos every once in a while each dealer will get a decent batch - draws the customers back in then it's back to shite again for a month. Constantly witnessed this pattern from many different shotters in nottingham. Same with the gear too
 
The few times i tried crack/freebase it was with a mate that moved lots of coke. He made the freebase himself from quality powder back in the early 90's before leva was used to cut the gear at the source. The shit made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up...insane rush and very moreish. Have not had any in a long time. I would like to revisit it though.
 
I spent thousands on shit crack. Even the good stuff was shit. Hate it with a passion...

^THIS ^
the only decent pipe is the first one ( possibly the second ) after that your just hunting for that bell ringing ,sweat soaked toilet dash.
You (I) just smash it to bits looking for a buzz , you ain't getting unless you leave it alone for 45 min/ a hour.. And I've not met anyone yet who can put a rock down and wait to straighten up.
If there is such a animal out there they deserve a medal a pat on the back and a big old pipe from me.
 
^THIS ^
the only decent pipe is the first one ( possibly the second ) after that your just hunting for that bell ringing ,sweat soaked toilet dash.
You (I) just smash it to bits looking for a buzz , you ain't getting unless you leave it alone for 45 min/ a hour.. And I've not met anyone yet who can put a rock down and wait to straighten up.
If there is such a animal out there they deserve a medal a pat on the back and a big old pipe from me.

I know one or two people who manage to use the shit the way you described. I swear, they are Buddhas or something. I find it impossible.
 
I always use to wash up 1-3 with Bicarb but that was when the coke was 70%+ bitd we use to freebase but its a real kerfuffle to prep and you need a blowtorch to smoke the stuff - .
 
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