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The Old and Overgrown DOC thread (fixed)

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illuminati boy said:
As already stated before… rectal administration (‘plugging’) of a compound will likely (though not certainly) lead to a more powerful effect… though it is in no way more ‘consistent’ or ‘predictable’ etc. Usually the advantages of rectal administration are decreased nausea and increased peak effect (versus oral). Consistency of effect is not really one of the pluses.

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Well SWIM pukes every time he takes DOC. It has not failed once. He puked with 6mg and again with 8mg. He wants to take it again but he does not want to puke. This is one of the main reasons he wants to pulg this substance.
 
DivineMomenT said:
Well SWIM pukes every time he takes DOC. It has not failed once. He puked with 6mg and again with 8mg. He wants to take it again but he does not want to puke. This is one of the main reasons he wants to pulg this substance.
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have you tried putting it into water and then dosing in small sips over the course of an hour or 1.5? sometimes spreading the dose can do wonders for nausea.
 
i myself dont mind puking on DOC. its only happened to me like 3 out of about 15 researches. i didnt know if you sipped it over a longer period of time that would help. how does that work nuke?
 
Slowly acclimates your body to a given substance and lengthens the time it takes your body to reach peak plasma levels -- people seem to vomit and have a lot worse body problems when snorting PEAs.
 
I didn't assume it was the actual fault of the substance hitting the stomach, more just a side effect of the drug's action. I've heard of plenty of people puking of 5-meo-amt on blotter. Most of it gets absorbed in the mouth, doesn't it? The little that doesn't surely has much absorbed before even hitting the stomach. It never really occured to me that whatever little drug makes it down there, especially with these low dose chems was the issue. The DOC nausea I've witnessed took place hours after ingestion.
 
Even if it was absorbed in the mouth, sipping a liquid solution would counteract the rapid uptake. The point isn't so much the drug not reaching the stomach, but increasing the amount of the drug in your body very slowly as opposed to very rapidly.

I'm not sure why exactly it works, but it sure seems to help with mescaline induced nausea...
 
Are you speaking of mescaline salt dissolved in water, or cactus tea? Mescaline might upset your stomach, but any large amount of plant material will do much worse. Also, when we're talking about mescaline, we're talking 100x the dose of DOC. So a large amount of that will unavoidably hit the stomach I'm sure. Much better to sip over the course of an hour.

I'm not suggesting that it isn't a wise idea with DOC, just that I'm not sure how much it'll help out, and that there aren't other reasons for nausea.
 
it seems to help either way, in pure or cactus form.

yeah -- someone'll have to try it out and see if it's any better. not me, the DOxs are just too long for my liking.
 
Is there any good stores to find glass droppers around town? Even ones that have something in them so you can just clean them and use them? I looked at Wal-Mart but couldn't find anything.
 
Why would you need one?

Those sort of things are in no way suitable for measureing a dose of DOC. You need to get a syringe or something more reliable. You don't want to fuck this one up.
 
For real.

To measure my RCs without a super sensitive scale, I first obtain them from a very trusted, personally known source WITH a sensitive scale. However, not all of us have this option. I also have a scale accurate to +-10mg, which you can get for pretty cheap. I'll get, say, 500mg of a substance, make sure it's correct to within +-10mg, and then dissolve it in 1mL=1mg concentration of a combination of purified water and everclear. You could use any concentration, but make it easy to calculate amounts with. To measure the liquid, I bought a small 6mL syringe from a hydroponic growing supply store, for under a dollar. using this, I can quickly and accurately measure in .2mL increments. Once the solution is mixed, I can measure out any dosage I want very easily and accurately. Some tryptamines can become unstable in liquid, but of all the phenethylamines (and even most tryptamines) that I have experienced, there seems to be no degradation occurring within reasonable amounts of time if you keep the solutions in airtight jars in the dark and in the fridge.

This method has worked very well for me.
 
^ I think he means for storing, not measuring. I found those purfume vials (sue me;) ) you find in the crafts section of wal-mart work well. Just make sure you clean them out well or else you get some horrid arromic taste to your substance.
 
I figured, for example, if you had 100mg and wanted to divide it into 50 2mg doses, you could take a dropper and put 50 droppers full of water into the bottle and dissolve the 50 doses of whatever substance into it then you would have a 2mg dose per full dropper.
 
Is a dropperfull a standard unit of measurement these days?

Did you weight the stuff out to even know you have a correct starting amount?
 
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