The Old and Overgrown DOC thread (fixed)

[jimmyHIP]

thats funny, i've slept, been awake for 3 hours, dosed, then fell asleep stoned still tripping at +6 or 7

 

[DivineMomenT]

Jesus SWIM just became a member here and there is a lot of information about DOC! Last time SWIM came here there were just a few pages and now 38! SWIM figured he would share a few insights about this compound. He has only tried it 3 times. Once at 2mg, another at 5.5mg and the other with 8mg.

2mg of this substance was barely felt. There was somewhat of a stimulating effect with mild visuals somewhat like a very low dose of lsd. Around a half hit of weaker blotter. SWIM definitely knew from this trip that DOC had potential but wasnt as impressed as he expected to be.

Now jumo forward a month and SWIM takes 5mg. Definitely better than 2mg but still not at the level SWIM wanted it to be. It was stimulating and sedating at the same time. If anyone has experienced the sedating feeling off of MDMA it is similar to this but not as tingly and euphoric. More relaxed. The visuals started to pick up at this dose but were nowhere near what others were reporting. In comparison to acid it was only equivelant to about 2 hits. SWIM doesnt know the exact amount of lsd in his acid but he is just estimating. The visuals were a lot like lsd, and the mindstate was similar but with a overall lack of confusion. SWIM was cool to talk to friends or anyone else he needed to. The music was good to listen to but it was not enhanced as much as with lsd or 2c-e even. The only way SWIM can describe the visuals are like a mix between 2c-e and lsd. Crisp and defined like lsd visuals, and a mindstate very similar to lsd without the confusion. Its a nice!!! chemicals dont get SWIM wrong but this dose still did not show him what he had wanted. Overall a nice mind state though. The visuals are not quite as crisp as with lsd but less like a painting than 2c-e. It has a tryptamine feel but also a pea feel its nuts. If you have taken it you probably know what SWIM means.

A month later SWIM took 8mg which was a pretty good dose but still not what he wanted. Strange thing this dose only lasted 8 or so hours. SWIM was asleep by the 10th hour. He also took a mixture of pure mda and mdma at the end of the trip. Visually the trip was not as impressive as a strong lsd trip or 2c-e trip. The mind set was very clean and upbeat. The world had a certain undescrible feel and taste. SWIM just must not be very sensitive to this chemical. He is thinking of trying to plug it so it will bypass the liver and hit him much harder. anyone have experience plugging it? Snorting would be the second option.

This drug definitely has potential SWIM just thinks he could get more out of it from another injestion method. The dose was measured properly too. a FOAF of SWIM had a very strong experience from 6mg, much stronger and longer than swims experience. by the 8th hour of the experience, SWIM was rolling his balls off at a club dancing with chicks and shit, he was easily able to communicate with everyone. It woul have been easy to communicate at the club even if the DOC was still effecting SWIM. The mindset with this drug is pretty awesome though but SWIM has not yet delt detached from reality in any way like some of the trypramines and even 2c-e and 2c-i make him feel. visually, the 8mg experience was nowhere near as visual or mindboggling as even 4 hits of strong blotter. Sure they are different drugs, and SWIM wondered why others compared it so much but they truly are very similar. Much more so than any other tryptamine of phenethylamine have been. There was some introspection, actually a good bit but SWIM didnt quite feel like he broke the surface of the drug. He did not quite walk through the doors to the other side as he has with shroom, lsd, miprocin and others.

SWIM has read that others have "broken through" SWIm just thinks he needs to try another injestion method. Wierd thing though it was such a short trip. any ideas? any experience with plugging. Good to be here in a good community with many experienced users willing to share tehir info

 

[jimmyHIP]

ive taken up to 4mg with just slight visuals and no real mind trip. i dont know whats wrong. and i get sleepy on it.

i know it's DOC, came from a very reputable company.

 

[treefingers49]

Is there some low quality or cut DOC going around? this isn't making too much sense.

 

[Cat Again]

Is there some low quality or cut DOC going around? this isn't making too much sense.

Maybe some people just have a high natural tolerance for it.
Iv seen this with other PEA's.

 

[GreenBarts]

you can take like 10-12mg if you've already done like 6mg-8mg doses, if your body can handle it why not go for it all. i really enjoy DOC and what it has to offer. but i think ive done it enough and will probably dose one more time some time next month at around 4mg because thats all i have.

 

[CatfishRivers]

Maybe some people just have a high natural tolerance for it.
Iv seen this with other PEA's.

For some reason I am reminded of the PMEA craze when someone claimed to have had a ++++ amazing experience and everyone got all crazy for it. I never did figure out if the stuff I had gotten was a bad batch, not PMEA, if I was naturally tolerant to it, or if the whole thing was a scam/exageration put forth by someone making a buck off it. At the dosages stated, I didn;t a feel a damn thing, and even sgnificantly higher, I still felt nothing. We'll see I guess...

 

[illuminati boy]

Is there some low quality or cut DOC going around? this isn't making too much sense.

Reportedly there was a ‘batch’ of DOC that was either 2C-I or cut with 2C-I. This was some time ago though. Reportedly at least one vendor accidentally mixed up 2C-C and DOC with some folks getting ‘really weak DOC’ and others getting their ass handed to them by what they thought would be a low dose of 2C-C.

All anonymous or semi-anonymous reports of compound effects should be taken with at least a grain of salt… especially if they report radically higher or lower dosing. That caveat being stated, some people do find that they are especially sensitive to either 1 compound or a similar class of compounds. Some people also appear to be ‘hard heads’ either due to unknown biological variances or concurrent use of other Rx or recreational psychotropics.

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[nanobrain]

and again, a foaf of a foaf's distressed girlfriend called the secret emergency number at 8:00 a.m following ingestion of 4-5mg DOC 9-10 hours prior. 'he needs to be off this RIGHT NOW' i quote.

the he in question is the hardest of the hardheads the fooaf has ever met.

 

[CastorTroy]

and again, a foaf of a foaf's distressed girlfriend called the secret emergency number at 8:00 a.m following ingestion of 4-5mg DOC 9-10 hours prior. 'he needs to be off this RIGHT NOW' i quote.

the he in question is the hardest of the hardheads the fooaf has ever met.

hehe, well that sucks. just assure him that itll all definitely be over in another uh, 12 hours, hehe. probably and hopefully sooner

 

[CatfishRivers]

and again, a foaf of a foaf's distressed girlfriend called the secret emergency number at 8:00 a.m following ingestion of 4-5mg DOC 9-10 hours prior. 'he needs to be off this RIGHT NOW' i quote.

the he in question is the hardest of the hardheads the fooaf has ever met.

Assuming you are able to, please find out what this fellow's measurement methods were? I am thinking alot of this varience we are seeing in DOC and dosage levels might be due to the fact that people are saying they are measuring something and in reality, they are guessing. I am not saying you or the poor hardhead did this, only that I think it is a trend that might be affecting the data.

 

[CastorTroy]

Assuming you are able to, please find out what this fellow's measurement methods were? I am thinking alot of this varience we are seeing in DOC and dosage levels might be due to the fact that people are saying they are measuring something and in reality, they are guessing. I am not saying you or the poor hardhead did this, only that I think it is a trend that might be affecting the data.

this could be a possible answer.

message to anyone: if you are using a scale accurate to .001 g, you should NOT use it to measure out one dose of DOC! you could easily be off by 2 mg which normally means about doubling your dose. and this shit is so much more INTENSE when you double the dose(i'm speaking from experience). either get a scale accurate to .0001 g or dilute a large amount in solution and take the appropriate amount of solution.

 

[DivineMomenT]

SWIM will definitely dose at around 10mg next time. Either that or find another way of injesting it. 6mg plugged would probably be atleast as good as 12mg orally but SWIM would probably start with 4mg plugged, since it would be atleast the equivenalt of 6mg orally he would guess. So anyone here have experience plugging DOC? SWIM pules everytime, not that it is bad but he just thinks plugging would have a lot more to offer and hit you much cleaner and harder. He will definitely try this method if give the chance. If not he will take 10-12mg. Initially it seemed like some people were saying this is too high but SWIM like others just havent reacted so sensitively to DOC. SOme are reporting way stronger effects that SWIM has had and they are taking half the amount. Plugging really seems like it would be cleaner and would save lots of DOC.

Bottom line, SWIM wants to plug . Would DOC dissolve fully in wine? Because SWIM has read that wine enemas work great but a vodka enema would burn like hell. SWIM could just take the dose syringe and squirt some wine up there. DONT flame plese people. SWIM is guessing everyone here is mature enough to discuss plugging without making childish jokes. It really is a great method.

 

[CastorTroy]

6mg plugged would probably be atleast as good as 12mg plugged

huh? i think you need to edit your post

and, how much DOC have you ever taken? i hope you don't plan on jumping up to 10mg from really low amount.

but i cant give any comment on plugging. i dont think ill ever try it. but thats just me.

 

[nanobrain]

Assuming you are able to, please find out what this fellow's measurement methods were? I am thinking alot of this varience we are seeing in DOC and dosage levels might be due to the fact that people are saying they are measuring something and in reality, they are guessing. I am not saying you or the poor hardhead did this, only that I think it is a trend that might be affecting the data.

the doses were precise. the preingestion strategy consisting of mass amounts of alcohol (he's a total and utter alcoholic as well) and whatever else remains questionable.

 

[B9]

I've not found that alcohol and psychedelics are a particularly nice combination, just the opposite in fact.




zophen

 

[gloggawogga]

The one good thing about heavy drinking, if there was one, is that if you drink too much you become useless and pass out. A strong psychedelic overules that effect, so that you become a wide awake over-energized drunk asshole.

 

[c00kiemonster]

I've not found that alcohol and psychedelics are a particularly nice combination, just the opposite in fact.

I disagree my first experience with doc (8mg) was when i got home drunk i had some strong urge to try it and it didnt come close to any of my other experinces with it not saying any of my other experiences werent mind blowing. I once did 2c-i drunk and that kicked me in the face as well! :D (only time) Also when the psch kicks in i wouldnt of known i had any alcohol

 

[Morninggloryseed]

Getting drunk while tripping sounds about as much fun as asking a blind person with shakey hands use an old fashioned straight razor to shave off all of my pubic hair. But then I despise alcohol, and everything about it. So different strokes for different folks.

 

[gloggawogga]

It has always perplexed me why people would want to take mind expanding and mind constricting drugs at the same time. Though perhaps my mind is just too constricted to understand.