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The Old and Overgrown 2C-E Thread

I think that after insufflating 2c-b, 2c-e will hardly affect me. :-P 2c-b, is much much more painful.
 
10mg plugged is comparable to how many mg oral?

18mg orally gave me a trip i was barely prepared for. im waiting till i step it up to 20mg (especially after reading MGS's warning about each 2mg making it twice as strong.)
 
10mg plugged is comparable to how many mg oral
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Hmmmm say 15 approx, I find many RCs variable I guess it just happens how well they engage with the brain chemically (a complete guess) but given I used stuff from same package n got very variable resonses to same doses, be aware of that.
One day 15 is a nice easy bit of a laugh time, then next time the same dose can be heavier by quite a bit !!!


Just be aware n you'll be OK
 
Delsyd said:
18mg orally gave me a trip i was barely prepared for. im waiting till i step it up to 20mg (especially after reading MGS's warning about each 2mg making it twice as strong.)
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If that's the case, then personally, I would start lower than 10mg (say perhaps 8mg) and work your way up from there.

I've never plugged 2ce, but I have plugged 2ct2, 2cc and 2cd. I would estimate it's at least 2x as strong for those three chems. It's better to be conservative until you see how you react to it when plugged.

-gp
 
Many comment that 2C-E ‘lacks’ emotion or spirituality. That is certainly not my experience. While I will agree that 2C-E is fairly neutral (in that it does not have the distinctly positive push I note with 2C-B and 2C-T-7), it is all very set/setting dependent. For instance…take my second and third 2C-E experience. My second (with 18mg) took place at the sight of a slaughter of Native Americans in Eastern Colorado. It was a VERY dark trip, and I did not find out until a bit later what happened where I had my experience. But I definitely picked up on the vibes of what happened, in fact I "first hand" experienced the tragedy. If I had known what happened before hand, I would have chosen a different spot.

The last trip (20mg) was simply ecstasy. I cannot begin to describe it…but there was much joyful crying, and feelings of bliss, love, and oneness with the universe. Another thing that happened, was a mom and her son come up to where we were. And I saw the boys joy at climbing up the mountain, and broke into tears because of how lucky he was to have a mom to take him to places as beautiful as where I was.

So I would certainly disagree with those who say 2C-E lacks emotion. It all comes down to set and setting.

I should also add that I find LSD emotionally 'nautral' as well. And though I have felt total bliss with LSD, it was never to the degree of what my last 2C-E experience produced. It seems the 2Cs all have some of the MDA/MDMA magic...that I find lacking in LSD.
 
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Hmm well I shall try to be more precise about that then !

2ce does have some elements of emotion and is definitely spiritual, however I feel that the emotional depth of LSD is so much greater that by comparison
2ce is found wanting in my book .
 
zophen said:
Hmm well I shall try to be more precise about that then !

2ce does have some elements of emotion and is definitely spiritual, however I feel that the emotional depth of LSD is so much greater that by comparison
2ce is found wanting in my book .
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Not me. I guess some of us are just wired differently...and for some the PEAs are where it is at, for others...it is with indoles. I could honestly care less if I never take LSD again.
 
^Yeah I agree with the wired differently scenario , the only reasonable explanation , tryptamines are so much better than phens I think, must be biological I reckon.
 
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MGS, i agree with everything you said except LSD being emotionally neutral.
In fact in my case LSD is the most emotional chem i have tried. Like t7 for you, LSD has me falling to my knees and crying out pure cosmic joy.
On LSD i feel more conected to people and feel more love than on MDx or any other chem.
Again, the only thing that ever came close for me is 2c-e.
 
2C-E for me was pretty neutral as far as spirituality, and emotional depth. But I believe it has more to do with setting. Since when I took 2C-E with a good friend, we just sat around making absurd conflicts, for instance I was hungry and got some crackers, I sat the pack on my chest and had crumbs everywhere, my friend said I was "Basking in Crackers" it had to have been one of the funniest things ever.
But, When I trip alone I tend to have more indepth experiences. Mushrooms give me intense emotional stuff. I was tripping on two mushroom chocolates alone once and saw my nieces in the CEV pattern, they had huge smiles on thier faces and it put tears to my eyes the shear amount of love I felt for them.

SO I think it may lie more in what you want at the time, maybe not so much in the drug its self
 
2ce can be more spiritual but i find lsd to be far more. as with shrooms.
the more i think about it all tryptamines are VERY spiritual, while phenethylamines to show more love and appreciation.
I have done 2ce many mnay times and found it to be the most powerful phenethylamine i have tried. it is also my favorite phen. Like others hve mentioned it is very analytical and logical. one of my 2ce trips i was starring at the stars and they formed math equations and eqyptian hyrogyflics. i saw pentagrams everywhere and the ground and peoples faces.
very logical and mathematical chemical.
thats why i love it so much! it also gives the most detailed CEV's i have ever seen.
 
It's excellent for analysis. I just recieved some 2ce and made a little experience. I decided to take a threshold dose of 3 mg oral. I had never tried to take a small dose of mostly any psychedelic and well, i was very excited. It made me peaceful and not lost in my thoughts, it was just like usual but I would think deeper. I wanted to try it socially so I went to the gym as I had planned. It was just like usual except for a certain feeling of inner peace. I felt relax, confident but still kind of shy but I didn't mind. Sometimes I would feel like smiling. I sweat a bit more than usual. I am going to make a test next week at school or during my homework which is partly why I bought it. It's sometimes hard to write on common or high dose of 2ce because I keep forgetting my ideas. But if I think deeper, I eventually remember and elaborate my idea, than forget again, then remember and keep on elaborating. It's sometimes take a moment before I write a full sentence, but it's always well structured, written and thought.
 
zophen said:
^You know I must have been asleep, my 2ce seems more potent but it occurs that the IPA could well be slowly evaporating ! :D
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Lotsa folks report that with 2C-I and DOC, less is more over time (i.e. once you've been to a certain point with these drugs, it takes less to get you as high). Could well be the same with 2C-E, I reckon.
 
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