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The Old and Overgrown 2C-E Thread
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marklar_the_23rd
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fuckin weird. on 20mgs of 2C-E i get a headache, no visuals - definatly feel that phenethylamine buzz all through me. on 25mgs i get some visuals not to much, but no headache. on 28mgs of 2C-E its only slightly stronger than 25 - no headaches, visuals slightly more interesting. im going to try 30 in a few weeks. maybe what i had was not so pure.
MASTER SATAN
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You know, I found an interesting use for 2c-e. You know that aweful feeling you get after a night of doing coke and your stash is used up and your nose is a mess, you got headaches/bodyaches and are generally just hungover from the coke. Well if you rub a very small pinch of 2c-e on your gums after your done binging, almost all the negative side-effects from the coke hangover will not present themselves. You won't trip because the power normally used to send you into trip world instead just normalizes you. I've done this four times and it's worked every time.
lysergication
Bluelighter
marklar_the_23rd said:
Well, that was a previous post of myself :
Maybe we got this product (supposedly 2C-E) from the same source...If it is the case, the seller said that he done a mistake because somes batches were not properly labelled ! I advise yourself to ask for a some explanation, it's what i did and i got another product.
MGS, is it possible that you are extremely sensitive to 2c-e?
I know people who could eat 20mg like its nothing but would defintely be overwhelmed by some of the combinations you have described (all of which i would love to try
, 1 day hopefully).
I know people who could eat 20mg like its nothing but would defintely be overwhelmed by some of the combinations you have described (all of which i would love to try
, 1 day hopefully).
Morninggloryseed
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Cat Again said:MGS, is it possible that you are extremely sensitive to 2c-e?
I know people who could eat 20mg like its nothing but would defintely be overwhelmed by some of the combinations you have described (all of which i would love to try
Anything is possible!
I was with a good friend on that 20mg trip and he experienced the same intensity and profoundity (sp?) of effects. I have also shared 2C-E with two other folks (one time 16mg each, another time 18mg) and we all got to the same place.
There were rumors of a 'less potent, fluffy' batch of 2C-E which many people felt was considerably weaker than 2C-E was supposed to be. Many folks I know claim to have gotten this batch and found it dissapointing...including one who tried 18mg of my 2C-E and was blown away by it. Could be nothing, perhaps a mass-plecebo effect. But maybe not?
MASTER SATAN
Bluelighter
i always puke on 2c-e and never puke on any of the other 2c's
justlearning
Bluelighter
MASTER SATAN said:
I haven't got sick on anything so far. knock knock!
I have to amite, ive had quivers!
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I'm still intrigued by this variance of 2c-e, it would be good to know if it is due subjective psychological/metabolical effects or due different batch of 2c-e. I do like 2c-e, but 20mg is not so so strong for me, it is a good overall trip, especially if you add a good spliff or two it can get very intense, but my true love are trips around 40mg, that is heavy. I've wondered this earlier too, but I since cannabis affects 2c-e so much (at least for me), I wonder if those experiencing strong effects are regular tokers? I smoke once a month or less, almost never when tripping.
botaanik
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I have had few samples of 2c-e that came from different source. All them have worked like any other sample so theres little to no difference in batch. Maybe it's not 99.9% rather than 95.8%...it's wild guess. OK I stop now this stoned massage.
I tried 2c-e 2 times (2 days in a row) last month.
first night, i dosed 20 mg, at home, my GF sleeping in the sofa. that for me a perfect setting (others peoples can make me nervous on psychedelic and then make the trip inconfortable). it was a wonderfull night, 2c-e was very intense in term of visual (i remember one time, i concentrate on tv screen and then, all my surrounding, exept the screen, melt in one large halucination, morphing in kaledioscope way). but left my mind very clear, without any "push" i felt on 2c-i or confusion. I understood why people used the word "cold", euphoria was the consequence off the trip but was not "included". Once the trip finished, i took some benzo and slept like a baby and woke up perfectly fine the day after (I had horrible headheak after 2c-i).
Then, the day after, we've been to restaurant with my GF and drank quite a lot. she told me she want try (she is very experienced with psychedelic, but not so much with pea's). she and i took 20 mg and wait, after 1hr she said feeling nearly nothing and redosed 20 mg, i done the same (ok, that not very smart, alcool do not make people very smart). My trip was very good, just a bit more intense than the day before. It was a bit too much for my GF (but she always play with the limit with every compound she try). we both felt good the day after.
conclusion : I loved 2c-e, it feels, for me, harmless in a confortable setting. The cold and clear headed aspect make the trip "neutral" and did not bring any panic or any emotionnal crackdown. and because it's not "pushy", you feel confortable in your sofa without the urge to move i have on lsd for example. The ratio visual/confusion is very high, so you enjoy very impressive visual disturbance while not loosing your ego somewhere
first night, i dosed 20 mg, at home, my GF sleeping in the sofa. that for me a perfect setting (others peoples can make me nervous on psychedelic and then make the trip inconfortable). it was a wonderfull night, 2c-e was very intense in term of visual (i remember one time, i concentrate on tv screen and then, all my surrounding, exept the screen, melt in one large halucination, morphing in kaledioscope way). but left my mind very clear, without any "push" i felt on 2c-i or confusion. I understood why people used the word "cold", euphoria was the consequence off the trip but was not "included". Once the trip finished, i took some benzo and slept like a baby and woke up perfectly fine the day after (I had horrible headheak after 2c-i).
Then, the day after, we've been to restaurant with my GF and drank quite a lot. she told me she want try (she is very experienced with psychedelic, but not so much with pea's). she and i took 20 mg and wait, after 1hr she said feeling nearly nothing and redosed 20 mg, i done the same (ok, that not very smart, alcool do not make people very smart). My trip was very good, just a bit more intense than the day before. It was a bit too much for my GF (but she always play with the limit with every compound she try). we both felt good the day after.
conclusion : I loved 2c-e, it feels, for me, harmless in a confortable setting. The cold and clear headed aspect make the trip "neutral" and did not bring any panic or any emotionnal crackdown. and because it's not "pushy", you feel confortable in your sofa without the urge to move i have on lsd for example. The ratio visual/confusion is very high, so you enjoy very impressive visual disturbance while not loosing your ego somewhere
MASTER SATAN
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yeah i also need more than normal dose of 2c-e. i used to take about 30mg back when i had access. i am a pretty regular pot smoker too. 2c-e is great but i don't know if I could do it all the time like I do 2c-i because of the nausea factor.
For me 2c-e has still provided me with the most colourful and deeply amazing trip. There is definately introspection but there is no ego shattering as with other psychedelics like lsd and shrooms, which I find is an advantage over its psychedelic relatives.
I've done 2c-e at 7mg, 10mg, 20mg, 30mg and 40mg.
40mg providing me with the best trip of them all. Small room about 3 metres by 2 metres with a stereo+sub in it, volume up loud, bass up full, entheogenic in cd player, play and blast off.
Nothing can describe the visual immersion of that trip, I traveled to other worlds, communicated with other beings, saw amazing inexplicable cities, I even became a variety of other beings...during this trip i actually came to the conclusion that was 2c-e an extremely boring drug and all it does is quote:"send you to another dimension for 6 hours" at the time this seemed perfectly logical...i mean who wants to take a drug that just sends you to another dimension for 6 hours?
One other thing, the 40mg experience also provided me with the best body high i'd ever felt, far greater then ecstacy and i imagine opiates, this was earthshattering. It's very hard to explain but imagine an orgasm over your whole body then put that orgasm on every reflection of a diamond then form that diamond into a fractal pattern with a million other diamonds.
Edit for about the 10th time, lots of tid bits to add, if you want to know anything just ask.
Nausea
The 2c-e comeup is a fairly rough ride, i've used 2c-e around 10 times all up mostly at doses of 20-30mg. Nausea is always a problem + aches in back of neck and joints, though i may feel close to the point where i may need to puke it never reaches that stage. Nausea and aches subside for me after reaching plateau.
Taking the 40mg actually gave me the least nauseous experience of all the dosages, I can't really recall but i think i'd eaten not long before taking and nausea and aches were nearly non-existant.
I've done 2c-e at 7mg, 10mg, 20mg, 30mg and 40mg.
40mg providing me with the best trip of them all. Small room about 3 metres by 2 metres with a stereo+sub in it, volume up loud, bass up full, entheogenic in cd player, play and blast off.
Nothing can describe the visual immersion of that trip, I traveled to other worlds, communicated with other beings, saw amazing inexplicable cities, I even became a variety of other beings...during this trip i actually came to the conclusion that was 2c-e an extremely boring drug and all it does is quote:"send you to another dimension for 6 hours" at the time this seemed perfectly logical...i mean who wants to take a drug that just sends you to another dimension for 6 hours?
One other thing, the 40mg experience also provided me with the best body high i'd ever felt, far greater then ecstacy and i imagine opiates, this was earthshattering. It's very hard to explain but imagine an orgasm over your whole body then put that orgasm on every reflection of a diamond then form that diamond into a fractal pattern with a million other diamonds.
Edit for about the 10th time, lots of tid bits to add, if you want to know anything just ask.
Nausea
The 2c-e comeup is a fairly rough ride, i've used 2c-e around 10 times all up mostly at doses of 20-30mg. Nausea is always a problem + aches in back of neck and joints, though i may feel close to the point where i may need to puke it never reaches that stage. Nausea and aches subside for me after reaching plateau.
Taking the 40mg actually gave me the least nauseous experience of all the dosages, I can't really recall but i think i'd eaten not long before taking and nausea and aches were nearly non-existant.
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Morninggloryseed
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>You're on very thin ice
>taking phenethylamines
>with harmala alkaloids.
Definitely not something I'd do.
>the 2C-x compounds are
>fairly closely related to
>some pressor drugs...
>they have the 2,5-
>dimethoxy substitution
>pattern in common.
Be that as it may, the pharmacology is different enough to where I am not sure any real relationship can be seen.
>Shulgin combined mescaline
>with MAOIs, but mescaline
>doesn't have the 2,5-
>dimethoxy configuration.
If I recall, he also mentioned an account of harmala combined with the mescaline positional isomer 2,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine (TMPEA.)
>The MAOI option really is
>taking an unnecessary risk.
Totally agreed. But I've read/heard of enough acounts reports concerning 2,5-DMPEA and 3,4-MDO mixed with harmala alkaloids to conclude the mixture would not be significantly dangerous. At least withg moderate use.
>taking phenethylamines
>with harmala alkaloids.
Definitely not something I'd do.
>the 2C-x compounds are
>fairly closely related to
>some pressor drugs...
>they have the 2,5-
>dimethoxy substitution
>pattern in common.
Be that as it may, the pharmacology is different enough to where I am not sure any real relationship can be seen.
>Shulgin combined mescaline
>with MAOIs, but mescaline
>doesn't have the 2,5-
>dimethoxy configuration.
If I recall, he also mentioned an account of harmala combined with the mescaline positional isomer 2,4,5-trimethoxyphenethylamine (TMPEA.)
>The MAOI option really is
>taking an unnecessary risk.
Totally agreed. But I've read/heard of enough acounts reports concerning 2,5-DMPEA and 3,4-MDO mixed with harmala alkaloids to conclude the mixture would not be significantly dangerous. At least withg moderate use.
Liquid_Nebula
Bluelighter
ive heard that alot of the 2c-e from 2003-4 was the fluffy kind
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spookmaster
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Liquid_Nebula said:
ARgh! The hell that would be! Though it is hard to keep a good dance pump going sometimes...other times it seems to have a lot of energy kick, yet another it could just make you want and sit and stare. Strange things this substance does!
MASTER SATAN
Bluelighter
Is it just me or do 2C-E trips seem to peak at the beginning of the trip and then coast for the remaining hours unlike most other pyschadelics which peak in the middle of the trip. Probably why it has more nausuea. Also, back before all the online RC vendor busts last year, it seems like 2C-E was one of the cheapest RCs available yet it's one of the stronger ones (definately way stronger than 2c-i). I always wondered why 2c-e was usually 1/2-1/4 the price as other 2c-x chems. I guess cuz it was because it wasn't as popular due to the potency.