The Official Tramadol Discussion Thread

[Tsukasa]

^ Water intoxication is much more bad for your body though.

 

[Dxmmonster]

I'm not one to judge, but if the withdrawals are that bad, why keep doing them? Honestly, it took 2 times of delayed shipment withdrawals for me to decide to quit trams for awhile. I could not be more miserable on them, and unable to live my life as normal.

Currently I dont want to quit yet, I'm trying to taper but it's not working very well. I think when I finally get my dose down to nothing Il let my friend hold on to my stash, cuz thats the only way I can be free from physical addictions.

I just dont know how my friends do it... they can have a stash of 100pills and still have enough self controll to just take 2 or 3 50mg pills every couple of days. they never get physical withdrawals and a small amount of pills always gets them high. for me it's just 5 pills for a couple of days and then that slowly goes up to 10 or maybe even 15 a day then very soon i run out and go through withdrawals, buy another 100 and start all over.

^^that's why i'l never touch meth, i'l be dead in less than a year.

 

[immortalprso]

hey guys, i was scripted zamadol sr100mg capsules. whats the best way to do these and what dosage? are they the same as tramadol pills? am i best to open the capsules and swallow the contents?

any help is appriciated .

 

[7zark7]

Hey, sorry to interrupt this thread, need some advice...

I have been taking 100mg Tramadol everyday for the past two months. It got given to me as I have been suffering a lot of abdominal pain from a suspected IBD. I was in so much pain that co-codamol wasn't very effective - but taking 100mg Tramadol in the morning usually made things manageable for most the day.

Anyway, my pain is now subsiding so I stopped taking Tramadol two days ago. Yesterday I was aching all over and felt like I had a cold coming (runny nose, etc.) but didn't think anything of it. When trying to get to sleep last night I had what felt like really bad restless leg syndrome, but in my chest. It was a strange and horrible feeling that stopped me getting to sleep for ages.
Today has been terrible though. It is the same restlessness sensation as last night but all over my body. I keep going hot and cold with my hair constantly standing on end. I feel like I need to reach inside my skin scrape the flesh from my ribs. It's one of the most irritating feelings I have ever endured. Feels like I am going crazy inside, but it's about bareable.

Sooo... searching on the internet made me wonder if all this could be from Tramadol withdrawal. I find it hard to believe that taking a small dose for a relatively short period of time would have such a nasty after effects. I have taken numerous other substances and never had a sniff of withdrawal. OK - I have never played with opiates or benzos so don't really appreciate how bad withdrawals can be.

If it is probably because of the Tramadol, then can anyone suggest what to do to lessen the horrible feelings? I have been to work and found it difficult. Now I just feel like I have a fluttering / itching / crawling sensation in my body. How long might this last? Should I just sweat it out?

Cheers.

BTW: I got no recreational 'buzz' at all when taking them.

 

[QuasiStoned]

Sounds exactly like mild opiate withdrawal to me. The only solution is to tough it out or you can try OTC loperamide (immodium) in doses around 12mg to sort of help.

The thing about tramadol is that in addition to withdrawing from the opiate effects you're gonna be feeling SNRI too, so its a bit like quitting a small opiate habit and an antidepressant at the same time. AFAIK, there isn't much of anything that can be done to help with the SNRI withdrawal.

 

[Tsukasa]

I've been through tram wd's many times. They are the worst.

I suggest finding another more clean opioid, and once you get adjusted to that, it'll be easier. Kratom worked well for me.

If you can't get another opioid, get some loperamide for the shits, l-tryptophan or 5-HTP for the depression and overactive thoughts, and some DL-phenylalanine for the fatigue and pains. Vitamin B-complex would also be quite helpful in normalizing your chemistry.

 

[uproar]

Yea, positive. It's a prescription bottle.

those are ultracets

 

[7zark7]

Thanks for the replies QuasiStoned and Tsukasa (Nice avatar of Aisha Clanclan!)

So it probably IS Tramadol withdrawal. oops. How long is this feeling likely to last? I don't think the depression will bother me as that's more a psychological thing and I like to think I can handle that. It's the physical stuff that I don't like!

I'm about to go to bed and am not lookin forward to trying to nod off. Noticed that keeping myself physically busy (I have tided the house this evening!) seems to stop me from noticing the feelings. It's just when I try and relax it gets worse.

Taken 200mg of 5HTP so I will see how it goes. Was contemplating taking some Xanax - probably 0.5mg or 1mg to try and calm me a bit. I rarely use it so not sure if that will be any good! Either that or I could have a small dose of GBL if I start to get some insomnia.

Also got some B12 somewhere as well as a few other supplements that I stopped taking a while ago that might be of some use. I also have Co-phenotrope (lomotil) on hand to combat the squits if needed...

 

[Hemuli]

I have experienced tram wd:s four time and two times very bad from 600+mg doses and many months of use. First week is the worst and after that its mostly mental and some dizzyness maybe. After one clean day i started getting really bad anxiety and restlesness, ye the restless legs is the worst. Day 4 has always been the worst for me, then i feel very sick. Last time it was pretty easy after three months of high dose use. I did one week taper, everyday 100mg down and when i was at 100mg i started taking small doses of buprenorfine and taper it. It was like 0.4-0.4-0.2-0.2-0.1 then quit. Also benzos helps alot and i used them when the anxiety peaks. It still sucked also this time but it was lot easier.

 

[Littles]

Tramadol works wonders for me. I usually pop about 8 to 9 pills for 37.5 mg each and i feel GREAT for over 8 hours. Makes me more friendly and I do get an opiate-like euphoria. Ive used many different types of opioids and this has to be one of my faves. It does really feel great and it last a long time and doesn't wake long to take effect. Only negatives is that it does make you very drowsy, and can hit you hard when you wake up and are still on em. Also it does make my vision go blurry and in and out of focus because of the high and drowsiness. Also causes a nasty itch but that's expected.

 

[skypanda]

I don't understand how anyone feels anything from these things. Are you swallowing them whole, bitting them in half?

I have 400mg pills of "Zytram" (tramadol hydrochloride)

i've taken two of these and felt nothing.

If i smash them up isn't there enough in there to kill me?

Please help, i feel like shit. And there is nothing else around.

 

[Pillthrill]

No. I don't think its likely to kill you. You are more likely to run the risk of a seizure but that is rarely deadly (someone feel free to correct me that I'm wrong). Everyone is different and it depends 1. if you have ever had a sezuire and 2. If you take anything to reduce your risk of a seizure like a anti seizure med like Lamictal or a benzos. I've taken 1000mg about 3 times, but I puked just about every time. So be aware of the risks and everyone is different.

My ?s,

1. Does and if so how much does codeine create a tolerance to Tram? If it does, how should I dose (how many days in a row or how many days should I take off)?

2. I've been taking Tram for a year or 2 now. Even when I've taken breaks from it to reduce tolerance I still don't get the mind blowing euphoria that I used to get. Whats the deal? What chemical thing is going on here to change it?

 

[Dxmmonster]

^^1. A good codeine dose would probably get you higher than tramadol since cod is metabolised into morphine in your body. A good dose of morphine should get you high, a tram tolorance wont do much.

2. Tolorance to tramadol goes up slowly but goes down even slower. A couple of years ago I lost my tram connect and was forced to go cold turkey. After around half a year or even more I found another connect and soon got back into the habbit, the first dose after that long was good but still lacking somthing. I think there's just a part of the experience you can never recreate. Sorry to say but I have the exact same problem and whatever I do my tolorance dosnt seem to go down.

 

[Pillthrill]

Its Fioricet with codeine so I get barbs too.
But I find my tolerance seems to go up in just days...
How long would I have to wait to get the euphoria bacK?? God I miss is SO much!

 

[Dxmmonster]

Quite a long time, I stopped for about 6 months and still I didn't get the full blown tram high when I took 250mgs(my usual dose for a good high).

 

[Pillthrill]

Oh fuck that. That fucking sucks. I miss the euphoria more that life...lol

 

[Dxmmonster]

Oh fuck that. That fucking sucks. I miss the euphoria more that life...lol

Yeah, I totally feel ya. It's kinda sad when you look back on that "honey moon" period or look at people nodding out on the same dose your on(yet your not nearly as high as them).

Thats sort of the reason I moved onto Heroin(just so I could reproduce that blissful nod again). What a stupid decision(DONT DO IT). But the high is just amazing so fuck it.
Im going to Canada soon so even if I start a little habit here I should be able to kick it when I have a change in my life style/environment.

 

[Pillthrill]

I can't get heroin anyway, although I hace a obsession with it...lol
Does that lose the honeymoon period too? Well I'm sure it does after your a junkie. I mean before that.

 

[Dxmmonster]

If you have an obsession with it then you definitely dont want to try it. Cuz when you do get it, you wont want to let go. And as we all know that dosnt usually end well.

There sure is a honeymoon period, It's that time when you still have the self control and a low tolerance. You get very high every time you do it and each time it's loads of fun. But soon your tolerance goes up and you might lose that self control. After that, boom!!!
You get candy and ice cream.

 

[Jabberwocky]

I don't understand how anyone feels anything from these things. Are you swallowing them whole, bitting them in half?

I have 400mg pills of "Zytram" (tramadol hydrochloride)

i've taken two of these and felt nothing.

If i smash them up isn't there enough in there to kill me?

Please help, i feel like shit. And there is nothing else around.

as far as i know, there are no 400mg pill available on the market.

the range from 50, 100, 150 and 200mg per pill. i can't see there being a 400mg pill either because of the seizure threshold risk that is associated with doses of 400mg+ in 24hours