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Yeah, I mean they finished the day with 5 wickets remaining. Another half a session (or even a whole session) may not have made a huge difference. Although SA don't have much wag in the tail. Who knows what might have happened!
 
Who needs a wagging tale when the openers can do this:

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South Africa lead the 5 match series 2-1! Who would have believed they could make such a comeback after being 35-5 and losing the first game in such misreable fashion.

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And there she goes. RSA take an unbeatable 3-1 lead in the 5 match series. The Aussies are inconsolable - the South African's on top of the world. Prince the man of the series with scores of 84 and 111*.

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4-1 to SA! Absolutely massive score by de Villiers - ripped right into the Australian bowling attack, making them look like complete wallys.

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Right, now I guess I ought to get back to work ;)
 
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I saw his 158 in the one-dayer in Wellington. It was quite incredible. I can't believe that the same man could continually fail so miserably at test level. Today's innings looks more like the real Symonds, to my mind.

It's a very good series, isn't it? Will be interesting seeing if SA can hang on for a draw. I have a feeling it will be harder for them than it was in Perth.
 
Symonds innings today only further proves the point that he is a 1 Day player not a Test player. He took a few wickets but he is there predominantly for his batting and yes he made runs today but the style in which he made them proves the point he isn't a Test cricketer. When he is given free reign and told to go the smash (play 1 day style) then he go alright but when asked to bat like a test batsman he can't. Gilly is a big hitter and plays all games in the same style but if he has to he can control himself and hang around and I think he is also a much better batsman than Symonds so the comparrison between the two or the arguement that Gilly bats like Symonds isn't fair.
Anyway I guess he has bought himself another chance and time will tell if he ever cuts it as a Test cricketer, my money says no.


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The South Africans have no idea how to play Warne. Looks like he is truely going to make them his bunnies. He just dismissed Gibbs and well I guess he is eating his words now since Gibbs said there wouldn't be much in the pitch for spinners today and tomorrow. Was also great to see McGrath get Smith.

I went to the game yesterday and spent the day in the various bars of the members drinking full strength beer which is a bit of a novelty for me at the MCG since I'd never been in the members before. Its great in there and mates said its a big improvement on what it used to be. Unfortunately it came at a cost, I think I saw about an hour of cricket all day the rest was spent looking through the bottom of pot glasses.


Beech
 
beech said:
Symonds innings today only further proves the point that he is a 1 Day player not a Test player. He took a few wickets but he is there predominantly for his batting and yes he made runs today but the style in which he made them proves the point he isn't a Test cricketer. When he is given free reign and told to go the smash (play 1 day style) then he go alright but when asked to bat like a test batsman he can't. Gilly is a big hitter and plays all games in the same style but if he has to he can control himself and hang around and I think he is also a much better batsman than Symonds so the comparrison between the two or the arguement that Gilly bats like Symonds isn't fair.
Anyway I guess he has bought himself another chance and time will tell if he ever cuts it as a Test cricketer, my money says no.
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He's what you would call a 'bowling' all-rounder. He can bat, and he can bat well, but he's also quite an effective swing bowler.. its just that Ponting couldnt captain an under 11s netball team.

and Gilchrist should be counting his lucky stars if he's still keeping at sydney, especially when you consider Manuo (spl?) from SA is a damn fine keeper/batsman.
 
Graham Manou has a better chance of moderating Aus Social than he does representing Australia in Test cricket!

C'mon KB, Haddin is the only serious contender for the keeping position ;)
 
KemicalBurn said:
He's what you would call a 'bowling' all-rounder. He can bat, and he can bat well, but he's also quite an effective swing bowler.. its just that Ponting couldnt captain an under 11s netball team.

and Gilchrist should be counting his lucky stars if he's still keeping at sydney, especially when you consider Manuo (spl?) from SA is a damn fine keeper/batsman.
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sorry there is no way that symonds is a bowling all-rounder, absolutely not. im not sure how much of symonds you have actually seen at a first-class level but i am fairly sure he would not be picked in any of those teams if he couldnt bat in the manner he does (which is the definition of a bowling all-rounder: someone who would be picked to bowl regardlass of their batting ability)

(flintoff is a slight anomaly, he would be picked regardless of his batting or bowling so is a true all rounder)

beech: i have never been to the MCG for cricket, im interested to hear it only serves misdtrenght to non-members, it is the same here in perth and quite honestly it gives me the shits, i just cant drink alot of it b4 feeling bloated but still being sober as a judge.

i went to the new years test in sydney early this year against pakistan, turned up early but was raining, managed to knock back 8 full strengths (VB) b4 play started mid way through the second session to see gilly go from 17 to 100 in an incredibly short space of time (2.5 beers i think), im not sure if it was the full strength or the amazing batting that made that day sensational, either way i say MCG and WACA should go back to full strength, anyone for a petition?
 
DIEGO! you're back! never leave again! never leave again...:D

stepchild said:
(which is the definition of a bowling all-rounder: someone who would be picked to bowl regardlass of their batting ability)
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No, thats what we in the business call a "bowler" :)

and my point is, is that Ponting refuses to give him decent spells, only a couple of overs here and there. This is the first test ive seen him have a decent shot at the batsmen (especially the higher orders).
 
He looks to me like he should be a batting alrounder - bat at 6 and give you 10 or 15 overs as a change bowler. But probably I haven't seen that much of him. He doesn't look like a particularly impressive bowler, but he certainly seems to have the knack of picking up a few wickets.

I agree about Ponting. Worst captain you guys have had in a long while. If he didn't have such a great collection of bowlers to work with, he'd be rubbish. (I mean, any of us could captain Warne, McGrath and Lee + your supporting cast, let's face it).

Gilchrist could always play as a batsman. You could drop Hodge. He's rubbish ;). (Yeah, sure he's got a test 200. But he scored it on a dead flat pitch. And Matthew Sinclair has 2 200s and a 150, and he can't even get in the Kiwi team....).
 
He (Symonds) himself has admitted he is a batting all-rounder, which he clearly is. Pity he's not particularly good at either.

And as for Gilchrist, there is no way he should be dropped. He is just too valuable. He has a fantastic average, and has performed consistently, and will do so in the future. His value as a batsmen, as well as a pretty goddamn keeper, should never be underestimated.

Just because a player goes through a lean trot, it doesn't mean they need to be dropped. Martyn, for instance, should never have been dropped (particularly when he had only one bad series).

I agree that Hodge doesn't cut it. Bring back Clarke or Katich. At least if they have some failures it will prepare them for the future - they have great talent.

And as for Ponting, don't get me started. Fantastic batsmen - nobody could ever doubt that - but shit captain - and I don't see how anyone can doubt that either.

But anyway, go RSA! ;)
 
I'd like to hereby partially retract my confession of now liking Symonds. That comment was influenced by the rapidly climbing run count at the time. In heindsight, while I no longer "hate" him, I'm still not sure he's proved himself. Hacking and slashing is one thing, but the day he manages to carve out a sensible ton under pressure (like when the team is 4 for 50 needing 300 more to win or something) and he'll have my full support.

Looks like he'll hang around in the team long enough to possibly find out too. Hopefully he can pull it off. :)
 
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but the day he manages to carve out a sensible ton under pressure (like when the team is 4 for 50 needing 300 more to win or something) and he'll have my full support.
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There's nothing wrong with getting a quick-fire 50. He was hardly "hacking and slashing", balls were delivered to him that he knew how to dispense and score runs. This isnt a bad thing.



"I agree that Hodge doesn't cut it."

Amen to that. Bring back Lehmann :D
 
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