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the official 2011-12 college football thread! part 1 ver. WHERE IS SMOTPOKER??

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UGA/BSU line dropped from 7 to 3.

it has to be those thuper duper intimidating uniforms that the bullfrawgs are pulling out.
 
so will the broncos in their all white getups. i think its going to look like a game of rollerball played on grass. Its a shame, the unis would looks pretty cool to me if they put silver pants on them.

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i think the bullfrawgs should just wear seer sucker uniforms so they'll blend in with their faggot fanbase.
 
Haha, I just looked up the UGA uniforms... Looks like Nike thought that they were designing jerseys for a WAC team or something. How did Nike mess up Georgia's so bad? Here's what Bama got last season:

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Not bad at all...
 
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if it was auburn again, or maybe USC


god knows i'd be hearing about your inside info if it was lsu.
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Are we like... mortal enemies right now or something?


I doubt any member of the media would be calling for the death penalty for either school. They would reference the damage it did to SMU, and say it should never happen again, and then the next day they would blast the Canes and cry "DEATH PENALTYYYYYY" as if they had completely forgotten about yesterday.


And yeah, I dropped a little bit of knowledge in here about the LSU situation. And I brought it up lately because I was called a liar and bullshitter up to the point where it actually aired on ESPN, three years after the fact. They do actually deserve some sanctions. Not a death penalty, but unlike the Miami, USC, and to some extent the Ohio State scandals (where the head coach did know something) this is a situation where the school and administrators are aware and culpable. With Miami and USC, the worst you can say is "they should have known," which is bullshit in the first place. A lot of SEC schools have extremely dirty recruiting practices as well, but I have never said one bad thing about Georgia, so I'm really wondering why you spend so much time standing up for what are supposed to be enemy schools.

USC, Miami and Ohio State do not deserve major sanctions (USC really got shitfucked), my posts should be relatively consistent on that matter (I criticized USC until I realized it was an agent who approached him about leaving early, not going to the school. I'm only for sanctions if a violation creates a tangible unfair advantage). News Flash: 18 year old kids are not going to turn down money, prostitutes, and free drinks. This happens at every university. The key is to not be a school that pays kids massive amounts of money to go there. Kids at Miami didn't receive massive amounts. All of the eight kids found guilty (it was determined that Shapiro lied about 4 of them) took a whopping 5 grand combined, with Vernon taking the most at $1,200 dollars. 8 out of 85 players taking improper gifts is not a lack of institutional control. If you look hard enough, this is happening everywhere, and is impossible to stop. As I said, I'm much more concerned with schools offering payments that begin in the 10's of thousands of dollars, as kids will always have jock sniffers handing them money for time, or tattoo parlors giving them free tattoos because they are celebrities.
 
Are we like... mortal enemies right now or something?
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No, I just think you're being obnoxious, and I guess I'm vibing on it. At the very least, I think you're owed a contrary opinion when talking about anything you're passionate about.

I doubt any member of the media would be calling for the death penalty for either school.
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Well, of course you wouldn't. Whether they would or not is certainly up for debate. Miami is pretty much the program that rose closest to SMU in attracting the ire of the NCAA, and it was pretty much deserved. That's just the cross that an unrepentant program has to bear when they get popped again. What can I say other than that? Find me anybody who is crying DEATH PENALTY in the mainstream sporting press.
 
Pander Bear said:
No, I just think you're being obnoxious, and I guess I'm vibing on it. At the very least, I think you're owed a contrary opinion when talking about anything you're passionate about.



Well, of course you wouldn't. Whether they would or not is certainly up for debate. Miami is pretty much the program that rose closest to SMU in attracting the ire of the NCAA, and it was pretty much deserved. That's just the cross that an unrepentant program has to bear when they get popped again. What can I say other than that? Find me anybody who is crying DEATH PENALTY in the mainstream sporting press.
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The mortal enemies thing was a joke, just to clear the air. I was just wondering why you were riding my dick so much, and it turns out that you are annoyed by fans that are concerned about the future of their program. I apologize to you, sincerely, for being a true fan of my program and being concerned about it's demise coming from the likes of a ponzi scheming snitch like Shapiro. I suppose being upset that your team, which has been down the past few years and finally found what appears to be a real coach only to be knocked down for shit that happened 3 years ago, is obnoxious 8)

Let's see how you react if this shit ever happens to Georgia.

And have you watched ESPN much? Many people on there have been calling for the death penalty. Mark May, Woody Paige, Jackie McMullen. Oh, and also Sports Illustrated. Just use google and you will find plenty of people who have called for the death penalty, and have taken this guy at his word despite a lack of evidence to most of his sensationalized (the Yahoo! piece really knew how to make this whole thing look bigger than it actually was) and often erroneous claims. But hey, if you are going to take him at his word, what do you have to say about Orson Charles, who Shapiro claims was lost because he couldn't compete with SEC money.

And as far as the program being "unrepentant," keep in mind that Shannon told his players not to meet with Shapiro, and after Shapiro's incident against Virginia in the last game of the Orange Bowl Dee hired a private investigator to see if he was legit, which he appeared to be. There is a reason he was considered a "rogue booster," in that he did whatever the fuck he wanted even though the university didn't condone it. Nobody at Miami wanted a Shapiro anywhere near the program, but when you are in a city like Miami (or LA) it is very difficult to keep guys like this away. 18-22 year old kids do dumb shit, or fun shit (depends on your perspective) and the ones who directly defied Shannon are being punished accordingly. There is no reason for the university and all of its fans to be punished for the actions of 8 current kids, or, for that matter, 72 kids over 8 years (which isn't really that many, do some division).

The university is cooperating fully with the NCAA, moreso than any of the really guilty programs, because they know that they have made an honest attempt to remain "clean," and fucking prostitutes, drinking, and hanging out in mansions doesn't make a dirty program. Why not hold your Bulldogs to the same standards when they have kids who get arrested for retarded shit, or the Gators who had a damn near record run? Because some of these kids will do whatever the fuck they want, no matter what anybody in the administration tells them. There is simply nothing to be done.

The worst of these allegations, obviously, are the ones against Ray Ray, Dye, and Debose (who still went to Florida anyways?), as well as Vernon. It's still chump change in the grand scheme of things, and if you fail to realize that than I suppose I feel happy for you, because you are able to be a total hypocrite without blinking an eye. I wish I had that ability. I have defended USC and Ohio State in this very thread, and I only call out the programs that are actively paying players enormous sums of cash in order for the kids to play their. I've never given a shit about these rules against kids selling their celebrity once they arrive as major players on the CFB landscape, not only because it is an impossible battle, but also because I believe the kids should be able to profit in some way that doesn't provide an excessive competitive advantage to one program or another (big cities and schools with a lot of tradition will have some advantage here, but it isn't the advantage that a bag of cash that most schools can't match brings).

How did you feel about A.J. Green again? Just to measure your consistency. I suppose if you don't care about it that much, then you have the right to, and if you do care, you have the right to as well, but you do not have any ground to stand on criticizing me for the amount of passion and emotion I have attached to my program. You can judge it all you want, I don't really give a fuck, but I'm fairly passionate about the teams I root for. I suppose you aren't?

And if you find me that obnoxious, then put me on ignore. No skin off my back. You've been the only person who has been pissing me off lately (probably satisfies you a bit, huh?), and somehow I've been pissing you off (how, I still do not fully understand, nor do I really care to, honestly) so why don't you try not reading or responding? I'm caring for your "contrary opinions" less and less with each post, and I'm sure there is plenty of other shit you can talk about on here. Your posts really just sound like attempts to piss somebody off more than they are already pissed off, which is essentially trolling, and I assume it has been the attempt. Congratulations, you have succeeded, give yourself a nice warm pat on the back. You've successfully pissed me off.
 
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The time is upon us. I've been waiting since the end of basketball in a state of limbo. I had the women's WM to suckle on for brief reprise. Finally...

Wisc should be interesting to see tonight.

WOoO FOOTBALL!!! BOOMER SOONER
 
Let's see how you react if this shit ever happens to Georgia.
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I'd probably say "shit needs to get fixed" not "snitches need to get got"

Why not hold your Bulldogs to the same standards when they have kids who get arrested for retarded shit,
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Ealy has been kicked off the team for being a retard, leaving up pretty green at RB. Bacari rambo is benched for the Boise Game for non specified rules violations. I think my team takes it considerably more seriously than most, frankly. Its to our detriment.

Because some of these kids will do whatever the fuck they want, no matter what anybody in the administration tells them. There is simply nothing to be done.
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See above. You give them the heave ho. You can't tell me that its in the air down there, who parties with shapiro. A good conditioning coach could ensure that the kids never want to see him again.

But hey, if you are going to take him at his word, what do you have to say about Orson Charles, who Shapiro claims was lost because he couldn't compete with SEC money.
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the ncaa should investigate the shit out of accusations like that, and the heads of boosters should roll. They should take away cam's dad's church while they're at it. That, or change the rules.

How did you feel about A.J. Green again? Just to measure your consistency.
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you're welcome to go find the thread where i sucked it up and dealt with it.

You can judge it all you want, I don't really give a fuck, but I'm fairly passionate about the teams I root for. I suppose you aren't?
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so I'm either irrtional and crazy, or i'm rational and i don't love my team? this is why i think you're acting obnoxious.
 
tonight's the night, friends.

pretty horrible games all around, but i don't care.

UNLV vs Wisconsin will be a blow out.
KY vs. WKY might be decent
Wake vs. Syracuse should be ok.

i'll probably watch the GA Tech game.

i'm gonna need a lot of beer for this weekend.

kender bear, i have my kid this weekend but if you want to watch the UGA game at my casa you're more than welcome.
 
but, the only problem we might face is that i'm planning on ordering the UT game. it starts at 6. hopefully we'll be up by 50 by the time the UGA gayme starts.
 
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