the nods or an overdose? what's the difference and how to stay safe???

[chinacat311]

as a couple people have said already, not all ODs are instantaneous.

there are many other things that can go wrong besides just passing out immediatley.

sometimes if you take too much your breathing will slow to a point where your brain isn't getting enough oxygen and you will pass out, and without medical attention you could die.

also if you pass out lying down and end up vomiting in your sleep, you could choke on your own vomit and die. this actually happens a lot, so if you are lying down and nodding out, try to assume a position similar to the "recovery position" so you dont choke on your vomit.

"recovery position" poster.

also, if you are doing heroin a lot by your self, it might be a good idea to write on a piece of paper "i have used IV heroin" and keep it on you, so if you OD and you are found by the paramedics they know what to do.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

Difference between nodding out and a fatal overdose is that one you wake up from.

It's a fine line sir, be careful. In both cases you go unconscious.

 

[therightcoast]

yeah i used to have anxiety and panic attacks from time to time and one night i started nodding off of oc, which i never nod off of, and just start panicing, i thought i od'd for sure, had trouble breathing, and ended up going to the hospital because i was so scared for my life, turns out i had a panic attack. I'm mad at myself for doing enough to question oding but i wasn't about to let myself die because i didn't go to the hospital

 

[absent minded]

i was under the impression that OD will occur right away, especially if you IV. thats how i;ve seen OD's happen. one second the needle is in their arm and the next they are out cold not breathing. a nod is safe because usually it happens like an hour after you dose and your just chillin..

 

[Ham-milton]

Difference between nodding out and a fatal overdose is that one you wake up from.

It's a fine line sir, be careful. In both cases you go unconscious.

But you don't *really* go unconscious when you nod. You lose some consciousness, but you also retain some.

that fine line is what's so fun.

 

['medicine cabinet']

Its not instant at all sometimes. it seems like there is a fine line with the dose that will result in a nice nod or a visit by the EMT's. its weird, its like you know as soon as you push the plunger down...its like a sudden "oh shit, i think i did too much" your body and skin starts to burn and everything kinda goes white. now usually once the rush is over you come to and nod for the rest of the time. but sometimes you do that little bit more or the dope is stronger than usual and next thing you know you are being awakened from a totally unconscious state in a different location or position. it sucks.

narcan sucks even worse. however, it doesnt suck as much as pulling a blue and kicking the bucket. dope can be a real crap shoot sometimes, especially if you get it from more than one dealer.

 

[Pillthrill]

You can be safer by not allowing other people to inject you. Only you know your tolerance (and sometimes thats iffy)

 

[antbanks99]

But you don't *really* go unconscious when you nod. You lose some consciousness, but you also retain some.

that fine line is what's so fun.

QFT, that fine line is what alot of us live for...don't go for that fine line immediately though. Try to garner some experience first.

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

But you don't *really* go unconscious when you nod. You lose some consciousness, but you also retain some.

that fine line is what's so fun.

I think you do go unconscious when you nod. Who knows if you'd wake up if someone prodded you? Maybe in some parts of a nod you do, sometimes you don't.

I've never overdosed, but there's many times where I woke up 2 hours later only remembering pulling the needle out, or sitting down, or laying in bed real quick, or sitting to put my shoes on, or laying in the shower.

Scary.

 

[Ormazd]

I have od'd from eating 15+mg of fentanyl at once. lucky I threw up. Some time months later I accedntly od'd from 160mg of methadone in a 24 hour period. IMO Nodding and od are diffrent and the line isnt actually that fine. When Im in a nod I can still hear and process everything that goes on around me yet my head is down and my eyes are closed. The nod for me, has been increasingly hard to obtain, I miss the days when 40mg of hydro would have me nodding for 5 hours. Gone Gone

 

[TheodoreRoosevelt]

When Im in a nod I can still hear and process everything that goes on around me yet my head is down and my eyes are closed.

Erm, then what's it called when you go 'out of it' and like go unconscious for a good hour or two or whatever?

And you clearly can't process things going around you...

 

[GlassAss420]

"Its not instant at all sometimes. it seems like there is a fine line with the dose that will result in a nice nod or a visit by the EMT's. its weird, its like you know as soon as you push the plunger down...its like a sudden "oh shit, i think i did too much" your body and skin starts to burn and everything kinda goes white. now usually once the rush is over you come to and nod for the rest of the time. but sometimes you do that little bit more or the dope is stronger than usual and next thing you know you are being awakened from a totally unconscious state in a different location or position. it sucks."

Yeah its weird, I OD'ed like that, did my shit, only about 1/2 or 1/4 of the biggest hits I'd done previously, felt better than I'd ever felt in my life, started to clean my rig, about 2 min after my hit I fade to black and next thing you know I wake up in a moving ambulance on a stetcher with emts asking me how much I did, if I needed more narcan etc.. funny cause I'd only been shooting for 6-8 months and never feared od'ing and it never occured to me that it'd happen to me..

A funny thing, my friend od'ed awhile ago, off one bag of some shit that me and my friends did 3-4 bags off. The guy regulary did as much as every one else, as far as we know wasn't drinking, taking benzos, antihistamines, or doing any other dope that night, so weird.. we reached the conclusion that he got a bag that wasn't mixed up right and got a chunk of straight dope in it, cause we all did several bags and were fine, it didn't even seem like standout shit.. so either he got a killer bag(no pun intened), had taken some benedryl and didn't think about it, or it was some sort of situational tolerance, even tho he was at home in his bathroom at the time..

OD's are definitly some odd shit and happen at the most unexpected and inapproiate times..

 

[therightcoast]

=.its like a sudden "oh shit, i think i did too much"

worst feeling in the world, if its from swallowing something youll just start to try to boot, if it was bumped you try to blow your nose right away, and then you just get into a panic

 

[LightTrailz]

^ ahah i remember a couple times doing that its definatly an anxious moment.

 

[eon_blue]

worst feeling in the world, if its from swallowing something youll just start to try to boot, if it was bumped you try to blow your nose right away, and then you just get into a panic

Except coming to this realization when you're slamming opiates basically means that you've got anywhere from 8 seconds to a few minutes to find help....

 

[emjay]

Anti-drug speakers will often mention heroin users dying with the needle still in their arm, but unless the dose is ridiculously massive (as in you'd practically have to be trying to kill yourself), this is usually not the case. Overdose can be quite a slow process. The people being found with needles still in their arms were usually killed by impurities IN the heroin, not really an overdose.

 

[s1ck]

worst feeling in the world, if its from swallowing something youll just start to try to boot, if it was bumped you try to blow your nose right away, and then you just get into a panic

IMO its much worse to watch this happen to someone else...