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Bluelight Crew
I'll read whatever numbers you provide. I've been having the same discussion with many people over the past year or so, including lots of people IRL and even some people on Facebook. So far, nobody has been able to explain to me why the vast majority of hospitalizations and deaths are among the unvaccinated in Australia when the vast majority of people are vaccinated.
There is a pattern in discussions with anti-vaxxers. I ask them something specific and they reply about something else entirely... or, at best, they zoom out and say something generic that totally avoids the question at hand.
There is too much data to casually examine and make uneducated offhand conclusions about efficacy. If we can jump from Sweden to NSW to Florida at a second's notice, the discussion will never end.
It's best to focus on a particular area.
This is what I propose: you choose an area and I'll choose one.
We can discuss numbers in the context of those two areas.
Krinkle challenged me on a US state a while back and I analysed the data and it was consistent with my perspective. If I fail to see a flaw in your argument and I acknowledge a flaw in my own, I will admit defeat.
There is a pattern in discussions with anti-vaxxers. I ask them something specific and they reply about something else entirely... or, at best, they zoom out and say something generic that totally avoids the question at hand.
There is too much data to casually examine and make uneducated offhand conclusions about efficacy. If we can jump from Sweden to NSW to Florida at a second's notice, the discussion will never end.
It's best to focus on a particular area.
This is what I propose: you choose an area and I'll choose one.
We can discuss numbers in the context of those two areas.
Krinkle challenged me on a US state a while back and I analysed the data and it was consistent with my perspective. If I fail to see a flaw in your argument and I acknowledge a flaw in my own, I will admit defeat.