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Bring it a long it might come in handy (if teaching university level i think more so)
When you teach here everything is provided for you - or not you just have to think on you feet - they like fun based learning games....there will be books and sometimes even lesson plans already here for you
Please don't make this very, very foolish mistake!
When someone tells me he's married to a Thai girl, I smile, give them my sympathies in my head (and I won't lie to you - I secretly laugh at them too... but I won't laugh at you since you're my friend).
There is no such thing as a sincerely faithful thai girl.
*Sigh* but I know you won't listen to me, but I do expect you to come back a few months after you do this and regret it, like the at least 17 other foreign men I met who have had Thai gfs/wives.
I personally never understood how anyone would want to leave europe for the shithole that is Thailand. N. America I'd understand... but europe????
Sorry if this sounds overly blunt, ximot, but I'm saying it out of concern for you.
p.s. No, I have not forgotten about the message you sent me. I just never got to replying to it, like the hundred other messages in my inbox (as many BLers here would attest).
hahahah i know where you are coming from but its not always true and it bores me to hear all this now
My Thai wife (4 years older than me-doesnt look it - me 27 her 31 I believe believe (know) she just wants to settle down with a family) family is quite rich she earns almost the same as me - Ive never gave a penny to her - her FAMILY GAVE ME MONEY AND FOOD!!! - she bough me a motor bike!
after a year we got married - thinking about opening a joint bank account (i beleive this will benift me more than her!!!)
when ever she spent some money ie on a 100Baht dress (£2) she always asks me first and its was always her own money that she was spending anyway. But now we are married my money is hers and hers is mine - this benifts me more than her as i am accualy in credit card debt and she always has more money than me _ her uncle owns a factory (god only knows why she is with me!) - she doesnt want an english passport or leave thai etc etc if you are thinking down that silly route...
It bores me now when i go - only some places ie tourist places - when tourists look and i can see it in there eyes excually the bullshit what u think ....but hey when tourists come they only see all the bullshit anyway.....anyway i supose its only about me and her that really matter f*ck everyone else ---- just letting people know not to look into sterio types too much
There is a general age difference in Thailnad where the man is MUCH older than the women (NOT IN MY CASE) and any red bloodied women will perfer and hansome young man between there legs - however you never her of women falling in love with a hansome man begging for spare change, do you?...
....sorry i mean no offence to you- your post just made me laugh...
But im orginaly from England and ''from childhood i was brought up to be a football hooligan who lives in a castle, drinks tea and knows the queen'' - just like your American i Believe so if you are white you either love Mac Donalds and are very fat or a red neck or if you are black you are in a gang and sell drugs and love guns and ''bitches'' - sarcasum
sounds like you got stung alot in Thailand. What area did you generally go? how old are you...if you dont mind me asking.....?
Thailand is getting very modern (western) I they way they think - relationships etc - however alot are still in the dark ages and it really can be like the wild west....or it can be peace and tranquil - it what you make or it ...i believe luck has a lot to do with it.....but you arnt wholy wrong as generlisations have always some truth in it and my wife would probably agree with you as she says you are lucky to find a girl like me as there are so many money hungry women here...but maybe she is just saying that to big her self up to hahahaaha.
peace
I hope this made some sense - im so tired after teacing and its late and i have to get up early again!
chow
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Ximot
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Nope. Portugal seems interesting, as do pockets of Spain... but no, not so far. Seems like something I might do later in life. I have this thing about Asia and somehow can't imagine a close relationship with a Western girl, I somehow find them all "faulty" - but I won't elaborate on that in this thread. I can't really see myself fall n love with anyone culturally too westernised, too close to my own background. Unless she looked really "different" -- you might be onto something when you say I seem intent on the exotic. Whether that necessarily excludes authenticity, I do not know.
Jamshyd
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Perhaps not, but then again I hear a white husband is even more fashionable than a Louis Vuitton handbag over there
.And that is exactly why you spent the last three paragraphs or so justifying your marriage to random anonymous people on an internet drug forum?
lolwut?
Anyway, if you look under my nickname on the left you'll notice that I'm in Canada, so chances are I'm Canadian. Although I was born in the Middle East and hold triple citizenship, so you might want to take your pick - Sarcasm
.I am 24. I lived in Bangkok (in a very Thai area - Din Daeng to be specific) for a good part of the year and yes, I got nothing but shit from Thai people every single day. In fact, I know only two out of the thousands of Thais I met who have not somehow made me angry. I also lived in four other countries in three different continents as well, and though all had their unique faults, I hold no grudges against any of them the way I do against Thaiand, so I don't think this is an issue of cultural intolerance on my behalf...
It also isn't an issue of my having been personally suffered from Thai Lady Syndrome, thankfully.
Well, if you're an English Teacher, I do hope that you're just drunk/high at the moment, and that you normally don't make so many errors... sorry if this is blunt, but you've just hit one of my biggest frustrations about teaching in Thailand - the quality of the teachers and the whole system in general... what a joke.
These are precisely the places I had in mind when I asked, as well as pieces of Southern France and Eastern-Europe, perhaps...
If anything, this sounds to me like something you may need to work on within, rather than being a fault of those around you (that is not to say you are wrong, just different priorities)... it seems to me you may be projecting some kind of shame of being western?
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jamshyd,
I am pleased to notice you took notice of my post...
allow me to say that I find your statement that "there is no such thing as a sincerely faithful thai girl" is complete and utter bollocks, or, to put it more politely, a sweeping over-generalisation that I am unwilling to just let go without responding. Perhaps it is true for most if not all bargirls and other (freelance) prostitutes, but I met my beloved in different circumstances and she actually has a normal job... i have been going to Thailand on holiday for years and avoided the bar scene - my interest there used to be purely the climate and the sights, as well as meditation and fasting and such . . . until I met her, last year.
Anyway, thanks for your concern. I know that what you are saying holds true for so many thai women, particularly of the backgrounds i have already mentioned - but I like to think that the one I have met and chosen is different. Anyway, I'll be giving it a go. We spent 5 weeks together last summer, and we talk online almost daily, and she came to visit me in Europe as well, just recently, for 2 weeks.
I am fully aware of the "farang=money" equation... and who can blame them? it is simple economics, come to think of it. Guess who paid for her flight ticket here? I did, of course, because she couldn't have afforded it. ... But just as "farang=money" one could say that for a heterosexual western guy "thai woman=sexual attention" ... again it is true but it is, at best, half the story. Even if she does get a financial advantage out of being with me, and even if I love having sex with her (for various reasons that do not belong here, feel free to pm me if curious) I like to think that there is something else... like... love . . . time will tell if it's substantial... but I have just come out of an ultimately unsatisfactory relationship that lasted a decade... where I played around a fair bit in the end... I have no desire to do so any more and I honestly don't think she does that either.
Really, i think that anyone making such sweeping statements about Thai women shows evidence of having just scratched the surface of what Thailand is really about. Not all Thai women are Sukhumvit hangabouts . . .
edit.. Oh, and about Europe... yeah, well, you haven't lived here. To me, it's a sad place packed with charmless introverted unsmiling folks who onlyx seem to use their left brain hemisphere and have zero emotional iq and are suffocating in their middle-class material comfort and who are spiritual cripples who do not even know what reflection or compassion is. But then I live in one of the wealthiest countries of Europe... and the longer I stay here the more I become just like them . . . I truly have to leave here, believe me. ... Having said that, I left before, to live in Japan, 10 years ago... and i thought that Asia as so cool... that sentiment didn't last long, and I know very well that when it comes down to it people in Asia are every bit as selfish as Westerners. Perhaps they are more honest than us hypocritical Westerners - they do not even try to conceal the fact that they are racist (I actually believe we are all racist, it is a natural state, albeit an unfortunate one).
edit-edit... about Europe and its social security and whatnot... how can I put this... hmm... ok... life's a jungle and Europe (at least where i am from) is a zoo... pandas don't breed in captivity . . . you can probably understand why.... i crave authenticity and struggle and not the life I have here, even though i work hard here at times. This is not to say that I won't be back here in Europe for purely financial reasons at some point, if all else fails. Or because I get too irritated with the Thai drug policy or the racism or if I just can't subordinate my self-righteous ego enough to keep a low profile and keep my occasional rants of indignation internal. I got punched in the face for showing a reckless 4x4 driver the finger while I was walking once... so I know about their temperament...
Big love to you and thanks for your concern nonetheless. Time will tell
Check out the forums here if you haven't already:
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Perhaps not, but then again I hear a white husband is even more fashionable than a Louis Vuitton handbag over there
you ''hear''
''over there'' -------hahahaha you make me laugh
- marriage purely for fashion hahaha shes not that shallow (but she does like a nice handbag - which she pays for) - my GOd what type of people do you know?/COLOR]
And that is exactly why you spent the last three paragraphs or so justifying your marriage to random anonymous people on an internet drug forum?
and your a mod' on this forum
lolwut?
Anyway, if you look under my nickname on the left you'll notice that I'm in Canada, so chances are I'm Canadian. Although I was born in the Middle East and hold triple citizenship, so you might want to take your pick - Sarcasm
Oh to much to write there then.....
It also isn't an issue of my having been personally suffered from Thai Lady Syndrome, thankfully.
''Thai Lady Syndrome'' - hahaha
Then what personal experience do you have?
Well, if you're an English Teacher, I do hope that you're just drunk/high at the moment, and that you normally don't make so many errors... sorry if this is blunt, but you've just hit one of my biggest frustrations about teaching in Thailand - the quality of the teachers and the whole system in general... what a joke.
very drunk - like noww ....sounds like you get ''frustrated'' alot - another reason to stay away from Thailand. lol.
If anything, this sounds to me like something you may need to work on within, rather than being a fault of those around you (that is not to say you are wrong, just different priorities)... it seems to me you may be projecting some kind of shame of being western?
You just might have had difference priorities and views on things - life - etc than THai's hence the pole up your arse hahahaah
Also can you explain to me like you have with your friend that ALL Thai women are after money - after reading my post on my situation - and my situation is vvery simular to other peoplle i know to??
also how long did you say u were in Thailand?
also what are your views on our interracial marriages? do u not agree with black people marring whites? etc
Also what about marring above or below your class?
ts? did you come to Thailand with a jeleous western women?(girlfriend who rattled your head about the women?)
wqas your mom and dad bigots? do you know many bigots?
also whats your favourite colour? is it brown?
thank you
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Ximot
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Somehow, yeah, you've hit the mark about my feelings for the West. After studying literature from non-Western cultures and continents and travelling around a bit in Asia and also living in Japan I started finding things Western quite unbearable. Upon my return to the West I had a very hard time for some time... reverse culture shock... but I see no need to work on myself. I currently have no desire to fancy Western girls.
Funny though, I know already that i will have a hard time with the disorganisation and corruption that is SE Asia... and I will probably repeatedly get on my high horse about Western standards and what have you, all in self-righteous indignation abotu what I am witnessing... haha. Such is life.
I started wondering to what extent your negative experience in Thailand may have to do with the fact that you are not "white" - I read in some forum that being a white English teacher pays one more money than being non-white... with discrimination like that going on I can imagine that this is transferred to and felt in other areas of life.
Oh, and have you ever considered that your sexual orientation may have something to do with you finding the flamboyant sexuality of thai women repulsive? (mere conjecture, but I have a hunch...)
FYI, I have plenty of relationship experience (10 years with an Asian, albeit not Thai) and I like to think that I know what i am doing, even if my new love's nationality does seem to have a hell of a lot of clichés attached to it. I'm in the second half of my 30s now and I am beginning to understand what i want in a relationship. Anyway i found out what I don't want. Seems that maybe now I have found it . . .
About Europe... yeah, South of France and Eastern Europe also seem alluring to some extent. Agree with you on that...
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8ft-Sativa
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Was in Thailand yesterday, the place smells of rotting meat and people would ram the back of their trolleys into your heels without a second thought.
They call it the Land Of Smiles but the only smile I got was from a Moto drives trying too make me go to the TAT office so he could get some commission . . .
I'm off to the South around the islands in 2 weeks . . . may have a much nicer vibe I'll have too wait and see.
Peace
They call it the Land Of Smiles but the only smile I got was from a Moto drives trying too make me go to the TAT office so he could get some commission . . .
I'm off to the South around the islands in 2 weeks . . . may have a much nicer vibe I'll have too wait and see.
Peace
Jamshyd
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That is exactly it: It probably has everything to do with me not being a blue-eyed Dave or a blond-haired Jon
I have never encountered a society as ignorantly and primitively racist as Thai society.
I invite you to read my BL blog for just a sample of the crap I got from them every single day (literally). I cannot stress it enough: I have no had a SINGLE day in all the time I spent there in which I was not angered in some way, generally regarding my background and/or physical appearance.
The Japanese may be xenophobic, and I've had problems with that, but at least they're respectful and funny (even when they don't intend to be
), along with other things.I have nothing but negative things to say about the Thai - except, perhaps, that they have a society that is friendly to homosexuality. I cannot think of a single other thing that is good about Thai society.
You may want to expand on that - if I understand it properly, then no
.That's what they all say
. IMO, the Thai are different from other Asian people in that they have all the negatives of all Asian people but none of the positives. But that's just me... Though I do not doubt for a minute that you know what you're doing, and apologize if I ever implied otherwise.
Jamshyd
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Mr Bungle, when you sober up and learn how to read and write (god help your students!), I'll think about wasting more time with you.
Most of your questions and answers don't even make any sense. You make a lot of stupid assumptions. Being drunk isn't an excuse.
Most of your questions and answers don't even make any sense. You make a lot of stupid assumptions. Being drunk isn't an excuse.
That is exactly it: It probably has everything to do with me not being a blue-eyed Dave or a blond-haired Jon
I have never encountered a society as ignorantly and primitively racist as Thai society.
Japan.
The Japanese may be xenophobic, and I've had problems with that, but at least they're respectful and funny (even when they don't intend to be
Let me guess--you stayed in Tokyo?
Try learning the language and see how respectful they are. A good majority of foreigners in Japan have no idea how much shit is talked about the right in front of their faces. I see it all the time. And outside of Tokyo, the "respect" (I have another word for it) declines drastically.
I'll give you funny. Or at least, "goofy."
carl
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The same can EASILY be said about Thailand. I was in an elevator at one of the nicest hotels in S.E. Asia with my mother. We had left a village three hours from Phnom Phen where we were volunteering, rode a bus to PP, hopped a flight to BKK, and went straight to the hotel. We were not incredibly clean or fragrant... nonetheless, the Thai couple talks about how we smell and are dirty. We sat and rode from one of the upper floors to the lobby listening to this, and as the door opened, in Thai, I let them know some farang can speak Thai. Their faces turned white and they hung their heads in shame as they hurried away.
555 @ this whole thread. I love the country, but agree with everything Jammy has posted. And I can vouch that it's not his attitude toward the country, we've kicked it randomly around the city a few times.
Be vary wary of Thai women. I know of one successful Thai-Farang marriage, and he speaks three dialects fluently. It may be too late, but Mr Bungle, I highly advise you to learn at least Central Thai and your wife's family's dialect.
Jamshyd
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Perhaps I gave them a bit too much credit
.I totally agree with you w.r.t. them being "respectful". And as a matter of fact, I have tried learning the language (though not as seriously as I could have, to be perfectly frank).
Yes, the Japanese don't exactly rank high for me in terms of societies I like, and are in fact down there at the bottom with Thais and Israelis.
I was simply comparing the Thai to them to show just how bad the Thai are...
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I know this sounds as though I'm a racist or bigot or whatever you want to accuse me of being, but anyone here who knows me even a little (I refer you to Carl above, for example) and/or has followed my posts/journal/blog on BL, would know exactly why I have resentment toward these three peoples (although "resentment" would be an understatement for the way I feel about the Thai in particular).
Jamshye
some of my comments and questions were valid - no need to get agressive.
But then your are dark skinned and gay and they (all of them) are always agressive. My idiot generalisation - like yours on Thai people - joking.
I thought this would be a nice thread about Thailand, however I have heard the mod' say some things that wouldnt go a miss at a KKK or Nazi meeting
To make sweeping generalisations is not good and to try to define love (be it interracially or not) - would take a life time.
I hope no-one is being 'put off' checking out Thailand because of the views of this small minded negative creature.
Be possitive my friend- two wrongs dont make a right. - you are young you still have a lot to learn (me too).
shame.
Did you learn the language?
[please refrain from useless personal attacks, thanks]
^ nice too see mod's stick together - 'what about the personal attack on me ie'' its people like you..'' and an attack on my family.
my comment was in response to that ''personal attack - and if you didnt deleted it then people will have seen it has light hearted ie. entitled ''peace be with you....its easy to hate...to wrongs dont make a right...please dont hit me with your bag (refering to his handbag attacking comment on my wife) - joking etc etc etc'' - good to see one sided cencership is up and running here in blue light with the mods.
sorry
some of my comments and questions were valid - no need to get agressive.
But then your are dark skinned and gay and they (all of them) are always agressive. My idiot generalisation - like yours on Thai people - joking.
I thought this would be a nice thread about Thailand, however I have heard the mod' say some things that wouldnt go a miss at a KKK or Nazi meeting
To make sweeping generalisations is not good and to try to define love (be it interracially or not) - would take a life time.
I hope no-one is being 'put off' checking out Thailand because of the views of this small minded negative creature.
Be possitive my friend- two wrongs dont make a right. - you are young you still have a lot to learn (me too).
shame.
Did you learn the language?
[please refrain from useless personal attacks, thanks]
^ nice too see mod's stick together - 'what about the personal attack on me ie'' its people like you..'' and an attack on my family.
my comment was in response to that ''personal attack - and if you didnt deleted it then people will have seen it has light hearted ie. entitled ''peace be with you....its easy to hate...to wrongs dont make a right...please dont hit me with your bag (refering to his handbag attacking comment on my wife) - joking etc etc etc'' - good to see one sided cencership is up and running here in blue light with the mods.
sorry
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AmorRoark
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^ You're just a small minded negative creature; so what would you know?
MynameisnotDeja
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Hahahha. :D