The MDxx Discussion Thread Number 3!

[tentram]

cheers for the updates on the eztest kits lads.

 

[bangersNmash]

^The cartoon was a bit off.



How about make it the last time you consume a pill that you haven't tested.

I don't mean to come across as being harsh, but the dead set truth is, anything could have in that half a pill.

Thanks for that but I think I was kind of ambiguous on my post. I had half spare that time because I took 1 1/2 a few months ago, they were clean, it was white batmans which is probably pretty well known. I only had a negative experience because I usually take them for clubbing but this time I took them too late and while I was at the casino I felt the effects coming in and couldn't "dance it off" so that was the reason for being the "worst" experience for me.

 

[DigitalLove]

Interested to see the report of pillreports supporting the staves/sonics/rockets being some RC. Keep safe guys thats teh 4th source I've heard it from

 

[thestudent14]

Interested to see the report of pillreports supporting the staves/sonics/rockets being some RC. Keep safe guys thats teh 4th source I've heard it from

Jammo134 made a report on pillreports which is worth a read

These pills were being sold as Green Goblins in Melbourne about a month ago. People lead to believe they were MDA by the importers. They only contain the research chemical 5-EAPB and were purchased from the internet in bulk. The site is which you can find through google easily and they are listed as 5-EAPB pellets. This chemical is untested and unsafe and therefore i've put a warning on this report.
Link to website: [Removed website link ~ Ts14]
(not sure if this is allowed)
As you can see on the website, the pellets are the exact same as shape colour and size the Goblins from Melbourne.
I tested this pill and the results were similar to MDA except Simons turned slightly blue. This is consistent with the results of tests done of similar substances such as 6-apb and 5-apb.

If anyone remembers the orange rockets around 6 months ago they were 5-MAPB source: [Removed website link ~ Ts14]

Blue sonics were 6-apb. source: [Removed website link ~ Ts14]

The site states: "NOT FOR HUMAN CONSUMPTION"

So looks like those sonics,rockets,staves were either 5-EAPB, 5-MAPB or 6-apb

 

[poledriver]

^ I dont think that link to Benzo Fury is allowed here.

 

[DigitalLove]

Pretty messed up with how popular they were. Also worrrying that they fooled the test kits pretty well

 

[thestudent14]

^ I dont think that link to Benzo Fury is allowed here.

Yeah sorry my bad wasn't thinking.

Pretty messed up with how popular they were. Also worrrying that they fooled the test kits pretty well

I'm a bit surprised but not overly. People have found the duration very notably smaller but the rush has been great. I wonder if the pink ladies last year were the same, I had those and they were awesome but not Mdxx I'm pretty sure. Hate that they fool test kits, I'm also now even more annoyed about how much some people were selling these pills for. I know there's no price discussion but these were often passed off at double or even triple the cost of a normal pill, absolutely joke.

 

[lovepsychadelics]

Love the test kits being fooled just goes to show how worthless they really are. For all those twats posting "test your gear" maybe invest in several different test kits or better yet get some GCMS testing if you can afford it. Absolute piss take lmao.

Pink ladies would have been something else like 5 MAPB or 6 apb although both 5 and 6 apb have a long subjective half life vs MDMA, especially 5 apb. 5 EAPB is a fairly new RC and it gets around the UK law by being and ethyl derivative/analogue. Probably been sitting in some Chinese chemists "NEW LEGAL AFTER 5/6 APB BANNED IN UK" draw. Poor people getting "Molly" hahaha fucking hell... "mandy" is what MDMA should be WTF is molly??.. molecule?? Molly = US bullshit IMO, unless your refering to former countdown star, massive queen and supper ozzie guy Molly Meldrum.

Pink ladies and pink champagne were 2 branded legal highs in the UK that came in pill form. Hahaha pissing myself... I think both contained 5 IAI and MPA but later may have had 5/6 apb in combination with some other RC. Seriously guys some of you people need to travel... just avoid the US though hate the place just my personal take, Canada is much nicer. Some of the newer test kits list 5/6 apb and can discriminate vs MDMA. Still I'm fucking laughing my ass off especially at the stupid prices outlined in above post, I mean they cost the price of a big mac meal in the UK, fuck!

Still pissing myself funniest shit ever, not for you poor people who paid good money and got ripped off but meh...

 

[DigitalLove]

Yeah no flippas for me for a while, my wallet does not enjoy it hahaha. Sober/getting juicy and horsey as I reckon

 

[lovepsychadelics]

Yeah no flippas for me for a while, my wallet does not enjoy it hahaha. Sober/getting juicy and horsey as I reckon

Yeah and mid winter serotonin syndrome in the northern hemisphere with -2 centigrade (thank fuck probably if it'd been summer I'd have cooked or spent 24 hours in a cold shower) with only 2 mg etizolam left in your stash is a major incentive to give it a miss. Almost pissed myself that is the funniest shit especially people buying them and thinking they were on MDMA... subjective effects are massively different for anyone experienced with these substances.

 

[Oldred3s]

Everyone of those blank pill reports that some jockey gave a name like sonics or imps or staves (what the fuck is a stave) made me chuckle. I knew straight up yet weren't mdma and ha arguements with reporters about it even tho I never tried em.
A dead give away was the phoney name for a blank. What a fucking piss take.

 

[thestudent14]

Still pissing myself funniest shit ever, not for you poor people who paid good money and got ripped off but meh...

Don't worry, I didn't get ripped off, only ones I bought were pink ladies and I most certainly wouldn't pay over the standard price, the others I just knew people moving them but I always had other access to viable MDMA and if not I'm not stupid enough to pay through the roof for stuff that I know is so cheap in bulk like most dealers should be doing. Also whats wrong with calling MDMA Molly? It's a no stranger nick name then Mandy as far as I'm concerned. Also trying to say test kits aren't helpful is in now way HR. True they're fooled on this front, but 9 out of 10 times if 4 of the 5 test kits are used (preferably all 5) the results are consistent and normally are MDxx. I've seen this confirmed multiple times when people can be bothered and spending the cash to E-Data. A good rule is that if just one of the tests isn't consistent with MDxx then it's not, because they have to all react accordingly. These are the only Research chemicals I know that completely act as MDxx when tested with Mecke, Marquis, Mandelin, Simons and Robadope. Guess people need to start investing in the one that can identify 5/6 apb.

But there's no need to get on your high horse about what people do and don't need to do, how do you know if most of us have or haven't travelled? I haven't yet but I plan on being in Ibiza and the greek islands mid next year and hopefully canada the year after, but I've most certainly had high grade MDMA both in pill and crystal form her in Australia and can notice a difference easily when I have an RC in a pill instead as can most of my friends. I think the younger people between the ages of 18-22 are the ones that really struggle to identify MDxx as most of them would've been getting into the scene when the biggest MD drought this country has ever faced struck. I really don't know why you find it so funny? When there's literally 100's of teenagers in melbourne alone trying RC's without knowing. I'd be much happier had they have access to MDxx and it angers me that dealers pass shit off as the wrong thing but it's a reality of the world we live in. That's why I'm a mod because I try my best to help reduce this risk, but when test kits are getting fooled on a massive scale to RC's it's a sad day not a funny one.

 

[lovepsychadelics]

Don't worry, I didn't get ripped off, only ones I bought were pink ladies and I most certainly wouldn't pay over the standard price, the others I just knew people moving them but I always had other access to viable MDMA and if not I'm not stupid enough to pay through the roof for stuff that I know is so cheap in bulk like most dealers should be doing. Also whats wrong with calling MDMA Molly? It's a no stranger nick name then Mandy as far as I'm concerned. Also trying to say test kits aren't helpful is in now way HR. True they're fooled on this front, but 9 out of 10 times if 4 of the 5 test kits are used (preferably all 5) the results are consistent and normally are MDxx. I've seen this confirmed multiple times when people can be bothered and spending the cash to E-Data. A good rule is that if just one of the tests isn't consistent with MDxx then it's not, because they have to all react accordingly. These are the only Research chemicals I know that completely act as MDxx when tested with Mecke, Marquis, Mandelin, Simons and Robadope. Guess people need to start investing in the one that can identify 5/6 apb.

But there's no need to get on your high horse about what people do and don't need to do, how do you know if most of us have or haven't travelled? I haven't yet but I plan on being in Ibiza and the greek islands mid next year and hopefully canada the year after, but I've most certainly had high grade MDMA both in pill and crystal form her in Australia and can notice a difference easily when I have an RC in a pill instead as can most of my friends. I think the younger people between the ages of 18-22 are the ones that really struggle to identify MDxx as most of them would've been getting into the scene when the biggest MD drought this country has ever faced struck. I really don't know why you find it so funny? When there's literally 100's of teenagers in melbourne alone trying RC's without knowing. I'd be much happier had they have access to MDxx and it angers me that dealers pass shit off as the wrong thing but it's a reality of the world we live in. That's why I'm a mod because I try my best to help reduce this risk, but when test kits are getting fooled on a massive scale to RC's it's a sad day not a funny one.

Not really considering the similarity chemically of the analogues concerned. I find it amusing as obviously people were enjoying them and obviously were thinking it was MDMA. Also no one was dying despite people being all anti RC's and yet are consuming an RC believing it's MDMA. 6apb does give you a massive grin and feel stimulating arms in the air so nothing real bad happened and obviously better than a 30 - 40 mg MDMA (with adulterants) pill sold for the same price. "Mandy" is what I've heard from way back when so I find "Molly" a bit weird. Cool if you travel it broadens the mind I'm just laughing cause it demonstrates what I have stated you could get anything and still get "MDMA" on a test kit (unless you use 5 different types ). Unless you can pay for a GCMS your never guaranteed anything. A test kit is never 100% and 5 different kits being used to ID 1 pill type can also be expensive. The newest kits can identify 6apb vs MDMA.

My advice don't do pills. Also these products are EASILY available online and to be honest the pill press is superior to most domestic tablets even though they were blanks. Each batch also varies batch 1 pills look different to batch 3 etc. Maybe investigate "RC's" some kick ass on MDMA like 2cb although I don't consider it an RC as it's been around as long as MDMA and used almost as much with a heap of clinical research. 5 EAPB is different as it has fuck all research. Some of Dr. David Nichols research chemicals have caused deaths when distributed as legal highs by unscrupulous vendors in the past but the apb's seem to have been fairly benign despite the dodgy shit peddled early on in 2010 or 11 can't remember that had heaps of people hospitalized. Turns out it was PMAA which we get PMA by the bucket load here in oz. Also 6apb and 5 apb were enjoyable chemicals for their own rights but paying 2-3 times the average rate is more than I paid for shit in the 90's by almost 30%. Also my little addition of information is harm reduction based by identifying the various substances associated with the apb's including the PMAA bunk pills. At least you bought it to the communities attention that these pills were not MDMA despite people on here rating them as MDMA. Enough said.

I love the have not travelled but want to see all the usual places people who have not travelled want to go visit. No need to get so defensive here are some travel tips: watch out for food poisoning in Ibiza and Spain (also Greece) in general. A good sign is lots of locals eating at a place and not being sick... I said "some" of you guys/girls need to travel not that no one has lmao again. You won't care so much for them the second or third time as your just joining a throng of pommies peeling in the sun and seeing the countries and country side is more interesting than multiple clubs/festivals etc. Try Berlin if your into nightlife, art and the most crazy dance music scene on the planet alongside london. Maybe it's all the cold and grey (but Berlin not as much as London) that makes everyone want to party... Paris is also cool although more house/funky vibe won't see much hardstyles for example in Paris. Holland is also loads of fun just not the red light district, it sucks. Bets part is all the canals they make for a nice atmosphere. The cafe's are over rated but I love the truffels. Canada is amazing, lovely people, cities and landscape.Isn't 1000 words also a mod?

 

[thestudent14]

Yeah sorry to get so defencive, it just annoys me how people think young people taking random pills makes them foolish. Because I only partly agree with this premise, is it stupid to do so? Absolutely, but I don't blame people for listening to their friends about what is good and bad quality or what is and isn't MDxx. Most people don't take the time to research the topic and because they haven't seen the dark side of drugs yet they haven't been prompted to do so. When I was first taking pills I was listening to my friends and assumed that biccies all contained ecstasy (At this point I didn't even know that ecstasy is MDMA). But after seeing such different affects between a few different pills, some of pure bliss and some of mates getting severe nausea and vomiting that I decided to research and help friends to understand the vast difference as well. I was naive' but in no ways an idiot and responded quickly after seeing friends react so badly to some pills. So I understand why all the 18 and 19 year olds are popping whatever pill they're handed because they don't yet understand and haven't had a big enough reason to look in to it.

I've tried what I believe to be 2c-b as my test results confirmed that and it was sold as a 2c, but I've never had lab confirmed 2c-b but it was a good experience but I still prefer MDMA.

I totally agree that sending to a lab is the only way to be certain of your pills contents but it's expensive (for a casual user) and time consuming, but there is a lot of MDMA in Australia and as a rule pills are more profitable so test kits are still a much safer method of identifying pills then nothing at all. If nothing else you'll at least identify substances like PMA and PMMA which as you've said Australia has had too many times. It's good that the new kits can identify 6-apb vs MDMA, something I'll most likely invest in over the next month. Gotta get my uni exams out of the way first and then it's time to cut loose

Thanks for the tips about food poisoning, I most definitely do love the club life and provided I can save the money this summer will be attending a major festival in Berlin when I go to Ibiza and the greek Islands. I'd like to travel for longer then a few weeks but my friends that I'm going with had a big trip this year so they can't afford to go as long next year.

 

[drug_mentor]

I had to edit and remove several posts for RC vendor discussion, including from some people that really should know better. Come on guys, you know the rules by now and naming sources for drugs is completely unacceptable. I am letting it be this time but the next time I see RC vendors named on here I am likely to hand out infractions.

OT but I echo ilovepsychadelics suggestion that Berlin is an awesome place to visit for anybody looking to travel. Although I don't think you can really go wrong if a place interests you, travelling around different countries is the best time that can be had I reckon!

 

[thestudent14]

Sorry bout that D_M, thought I already had removed it once someone else brought it up, my bad

 

[DigitalLove]

I agree completely student, as a rather extreme case my gf (who is 3 years older than me, and had been doing biccies/whippa longer and more consistently than me when I met her) had no idea.
I also had to teach her how speed is amphetamines but in australia is usually just meth. Also I had to teach her the difference between MDMA, MDA and other RC's and explain what bics and caps could contain.

This isn't her being an idiot she was just never fed the information or as naturally curious or suspicious as me, trusting what her friends said and having good times. It's pretty hard to get into trouble when most of your friends are doing it too and you hear about horror stories and bad pills early on in their release. She still won't test her pills, but now she listens to me and pretty much only me (and some of my more drug educated friends) when it comes to what she puts in her body.

Just not enough info going around to my generation

Edit: I should note that I'm obviously biased, but she is a smart girl. She's a manager and keeps up in any conversation quite well, this isn't a case of her being some airhead.

 

[lovepsychadelics]

Sorry about the vendor discussion I got carried away. Although it'd be good to get some images and post them of the pills so people can id them imo, just as long as there is no vendor logo etc? If so I'll put up a picture of the RC pills.

 

[DigitalLove]

trying to avoid dicksizing here but yeah something i've been very disillusioned with in the melb scene. Consistently tried to get myself quality shit, definitely abused md way more than I should. And after a 2 month break followed by a 1 month break, i'm still consistently taking far more than the people who go out every weekend and think they know it all.
Even like some guys I know out every weekend were doubling the peaces or bats and thinking they were top shit.

 

[laugh]

been there done that. might be an idea to take it easy before the suicidal thoughts begin to creep. took me about 9 months to shake off the funk and it wasnt until after about 12 months i felt id recovered. it is a lame drug if one has developed a tolerance. take a look over in ED at how many people have blown out from the stuff, mostly merican kids eating untested shit but still.