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Wouldn't someone's "normal dose" change over time? For example, someone shifting from a medium tolerance user to a high tolerance user. In that case, does that mean that eventually, your body may be able to cope with higher doses, but over time? Thanks for your input by the way, great help :)
 
It does. Eventually your dose would go up (100mg to 150mg as a normal dose, so your 'higher dose' would become 200ish). This is why heavy users can down 200+ with no issues, where the same dose could hospitalize a low/medium user. Realistically though, a higher 'standard' dose doesn't mean you're getting any higher. With tolerance you're getting just as high with increased negative effects.
 
Yeah, the funny thing is if you give your body and mind a huge break, like I have you can lower your tolerance right back down. I used to use it heaps (mdma, lsd and pot and speed) for nearly a decade and by the end of that time I could handle loads of each of those drugs. Now days after a break of many many yrs (8 or more) and only having each of those drugs very rarely, I feel I am super sensitive to all of them again, the smallest amounts of each of those drugs will get me pretty smashed.
 
Hell back in the dAy they used to use coke for tooth aches and smack was avliable OTC.had this MDA sitting in my room for quite a while now....need a good time to take it....
 
I don't think 250mg would be anywhere near a Lethal Dose, I'm no doctor just speaking from personal experience. First time I had MDMA I would've had around 200mg straight up with another 300 throughout the night. This was not healthy nor safe, but I was trusting my mate who advised me to double drop. It can be very intense high doses but the euphoria was amazing. I'm not advising anybody does the same thing first time, whenever I have friends try for the first time I make sure they have a low dose.

But I would be surprised of 250mg being lethal to anyone (provided they aren't allergic). But tread carefully if you decide to do this, do more reading, check erowid for some high initial dose stories and keep track of how much water you take. Drink plenty but not too much. Be careful, but also there is probably no need to start with such a high dose, starting with over 250mg is unlikely to be that much better then starting with 180-200 but it would risks are much higher. Just because I don't think taking 250mg would be a lethal dose does not mean that it wouldn't be harmful in some way.
 
I don't think 250mg would be anywhere near a Lethal Dose, I'm no doctor just speaking from personal experience. First time I had MDMA I would've had around 200mg straight up with another 300 throughout the night. This was not healthy nor safe, but I was trusting my mate who advised me to double drop. It can be very intense high doses but the euphoria was amazing. I'm not advising anybody does the same thing first time, whenever I have friends try for the first time I make sure they have a low dose.

But I would be surprised of 250mg being lethal to anyone (provided they aren't allergic). But tread carefully if you decide to do this, do more reading, check erowid for some high initial dose stories and keep track of how much water you take. Drink plenty but not too much. Be careful, but also there is probably no need to start with such a high dose, starting with over 250mg is unlikely to be that much better then starting with 180-200 but it would risks are much higher. Just because I don't think taking 250mg would be a lethal dose does not mean that it wouldn't be harmful in some way.

a girl died a few years back and idono if anyone rembers those green n white hearts that were around back a few years back ( i will always rember those lovely lovelyyy fuckers they were a really large size pill and fuuuucking strong.my first report was on the white hearts on PR n everyone thought i was a dealer lol ) i think she had already had 1-2 or them then she bombed 3 (about 350mg i think) at once going through the gates at big day out cus she saw dogs.....it made the papers i'll see if i can find it.........i agree high doses are fucking great but out at a festival it can be very risky with the heat from the sun n dancing.i've taken the same dose at origin year before last n so did my mate n fuck that was hard to handle.i think i would of needed first aid i know for sure my mate would of cus the whole festival he lied next to the fence for the whole time n it looked like he had jumped in a swimming pool on the way back from all his sweat......i danced for about a hour then threw my guts up as it kicked in then passed out n i was good but yeah be careful with high doses kiddys :) i've done 200mg doses since then i get all worried n fucks up my fun sometimes 200mg is too much for me.

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The LD50 of MDMA ranges from about 100-300 mg/kg in assorted rodents.[42] The single-dose LD50 in humans can only be guessed at, but may be on the order of 10-20 mg/kg (oral.)
from http://thedea.org/technicalFAQ.html

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LD50 (mice) 97 mg/kg i.p.
LD50 (rats) 49 mg/kg i.p.
LD50 (guinea pigs) 98 mg/kg i.p.
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma...hemistry.shtml



(not very scientific I might add) website suggests it should be in the order of 10-20 mg/kg in adults.
 
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to be perfectly honest, some people take silly amounts, including me at times. if you want a really fun night and get the most out of your mdma then dose sensibly and safely. no medals are handed out for being greedy.
 
^ I read this story on erowid recently about a first timers use , written from his friend who had used mdma a fair bit previously, but his friend hadn't, have a read, it's interesting and somewhat sad, some people may have read this before -

One Time Ruined a Life

MDMA (Ecstasy)


http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=66697

Brought a tear to my eye, I'm not crying but if I wanted to I could. That story was very detailed and I can imagine being in a position like that where a friend tries for the first time and fucking their life completely. It's tragic, for them and their friend, he didn't deserve what had happened to him and they couldn't have anticipated it, tragic =(

(not very scientific I might add) website suggests it should be in the order of 10-20 mg/kg in adults.

This sounds reasonable to me, that would put lethal dose for me around 800mg-1.6g. Far more then I plan of having in a session.
Obviously other adverse reactions could happen at much lower doses. Also it's worth remembering that some people can be allergic to MDMA which is why whenever anyone plans on giving some to a friend for the first time a nice 15mg dose to start with is ideal and wait 40mins to see if anything weird is happening (I've heard a rash appears from the next to the chest and torso, but this is anecdotal evidence their is still little known about this)
 
So.... I just decided to check pillreports for the first time in ages....
Can it be? Is this real life?

Seriously though it feels like a joke. When did the MDMA pills start making a comeback?
 
They've been gradually coming back for about two years, but the last 6 months have seemed to be pretty consistent. Note there is most definitely still adulterated pills around, but the ratio is much better.

They're still weaker then the were before 2007 but I'd say they seem to be better as a general rule then they were 2009-2012
 
I don't think 250mg would be anywhere near a Lethal Dose, I'm no doctor just speaking from personal experience. First time I had MDMA I would've had around 200mg straight up with another 300 throughout the night. This was not healthy nor safe, but I was trusting my mate who advised me to double drop. It can be very intense high doses but the euphoria was amazing. I'm not advising anybody does the same thing first time, whenever I have friends try for the first time I make sure they have a low dose.

But I would be surprised of 250mg being lethal to anyone (provided they aren't allergic). But tread carefully if you decide to do this, do more reading, check erowid for some high initial dose stories and keep track of how much water you take. Drink plenty but not too much. Be careful, but also there is probably no need to start with such a high dose, starting with over 250mg is unlikely to be that much better then starting with 180-200 but it would risks are much higher. Just because I don't think taking 250mg would be a lethal dose does not mean that it wouldn't be harmful in some way.

Not trying to big note myself or show off or anything but I agree totally with TS.
My standard dose is usually 200mg when I get MDMA crystal. I find anything under that (still works) doesn't get me to the place I want to be. Between 100-180mg gives me a high but its sort of more in the background and short lived like only for an hour. Even after taking a 7 year break and getting back on it, I had a mate that had a lot of money to piss up the wall so he bought a lot of MDMA and I would just get that off him and after just a couple of times I found my tolerance shit straight back up as tho I never had that long break. These days I try to go a couple of months off it every few months kinda like a mine worker shift lol.
I just find that 200mg gives me the high that is reminecent of when I was in my hay day.
It sucks cos I only get 5 doses out of a gram so it makes for an expensive time.
I also find drinking alcohol changes the high. I wonder if drinking alcohol and taking MDMA changes the MDMA into another substance like when you drink on coke or dxm?
I know that when I was younger I never used to drink on mdma and MDMA used to hit me within 20-30 minutes, no gradual come up after an hour- 1.5 hours then be at peak but 20-30 minutes and you would go from clammy hands to full peak. Within an hour I was fucked but that maybe due to motabulism being fucked from getting older and drug use when I was younger.
Although I have worked my way up to the 200mg so it's comfortable.
I have done doses upto 450mg and I have written it in this thread before and that fucked me royally.
You look like a spastic, you feel like a spastic and people either come up to you hounding you for what your on or they look ar you strange and try to bypass your direction.
Not to mention as you start comin down you get a splitting fucking headache which nothing is going to fix.
Not a good idea when your listening to that relentless electro circa bloody beetroots style if shit. Fuck I hate that music hahaha.
 
200 mg for a good time? Gee, I'm not sure if maybe I don't have too much tolerance to the MDMA crystal I get at the moment, but 1 point is a perfect dose, highly euphoric not to mention drinking on it makes it that much better. I did 2 points the other weekend and it was just too much, I was pretty ill for the first hour and a bit once I started coming up, but was off tap once the nausea went.

There are also that many grades of MDMA crystal going around at the moment. In the last few weeks, I've seen my mate end up with at least 5 different types all varying in color and strength. The ones he's got at the moment are like a light pale orange color that shine like diamonds :)
 
Not trying to big note myself or show off or anything but I agree totally with TS.
My standard dose is usually 200mg when I get MDMA crystal. I find anything under that (still works) doesn't get me to the place I want to be. Between 100-180mg gives me a high but its sort of more in the background and short lived like only for an hour. Even after taking a 7 year break and getting back on it, I had a mate that had a lot of money to piss up the wall so he bought a lot of MDMA and I would just get that off him and after just a couple of times I found my tolerance shit straight back up as tho I never had that long break. These days I try to go a couple of months off it every few months kinda like a mine worker shift lol.
I just find that 200mg gives me the high that is reminecent of when I was in my hay day.
It sucks cos I only get 5 doses out of a gram so it makes for an expensive time.
I also find drinking alcohol changes the high. I wonder if drinking alcohol and taking MDMA changes the MDMA into another substance like when you drink on coke or dxm?
I know that when I was younger I never used to drink on mdma and MDMA used to hit me within 20-30 minutes, no gradual come up after an hour- 1.5 hours then be at peak but 20-30 minutes and you would go from clammy hands to full peak. Within an hour I was fucked but that maybe due to motabulism being fucked from getting older and drug use when I was younger.
Although I have worked my way up to the 200mg so it's comfortable.
I have done doses upto 450mg and I have written it in this thread before and that fucked me royally.
You look like a spastic, you feel like a spastic and people either come up to you hounding you for what your on or they look ar you strange and try to bypass your direction.
Not to mention as you start comin down you get a splitting fucking headache which nothing is going to fix.
Not a good idea when your listening to that relentless electro circa bloody beetroots style if shit. Fuck I hate that music hahaha.
Hey mate in regards to drinking on it the md, I highly recommend it. Personally I only eat MDMA when I'm already drunk, for me I just can't eat the md by itself it feels weird and just not right. So I usually dunk a point when I'm already pissed after 5 or 6 bourbons and its the most euphoric times I gotta say.
 
Hey mate in regards to drinking on it the md, I highly recommend it. Personally I only eat MDMA when I'm already drunk, for me I just can't eat the md by itself it feels weird and just not right. So I usually dunk a point when I'm already pissed after 5 or 6 bourbons and its the most euphoric times I gotta say.

These days I do drink on MDMA but I don't really get the most out of the MDMA high.
My body and brain are weird. I can't even redise with MDMA. Never have been able to.
Every time I redose it doesn't work so I kind of have to get my dose right the first time. I have been getting some pale white crystal lately. The taste is pretty rank But not much smell. When I test it with a tester it bibles up like a motherfucker to the point it nearly spits and has a little smoke And goes black faster than the colour change can be seen so I gather its pretty pure.
I have so many mates that just consider me a freak of nature.
I don't usually like to get pissed as I can't really handle my alcohol but at the same time I drink like a fish. I'm basically my own worse enemy hahaha. If I take MDMA then I usually only have no more than 4 beers max a night out. I find MDMA nulls out the alcohol craving for me and makes me drink slower.
Same with acid and speed. Alcohol tastes like absolute shit when I'm on the gear.
I have a friend that yaks off a point of MDMA. He'll have a point and have quarters or dabs at a time but by the time he finishes the point he would have yaked.
Seriously never met someone that could get chopped off of 25-30mg of MDMA in my life and he has been using longer than I have.
 
The only thing I hate about needing so much MDMA is that I need so much of it. It sucks. The shit is too expensive in Australia compared to the rest of the world. I'm backing off my use these days cos I just can't afford to get high on it as much. I have given up on pills all together. Last pill I had was about 4 weeks ago and that was one of those mortal kombats. A mate had quite a few and raved about em saying you only need half and by the 2 hour mark after eatin a half I had a whole one.
They were rad but he is out of em now and I told him to let me know if he gets anything that good again.
Not holding my breath tho.
I should just stop usin all together
 
I had a 100mg of crystal in a cap around xmass time and it did jack shit, it tested up really well too, fizzed and smoked and instant change of colour, I was pretty disappointed, I probably needed two, although after hardly even feeling the one, I didnt think 2 would have been worth it to try. We were drinking beers before and as we had it.

It's good to see some promising results on pr.com for aussie pills tho.
 
Nothing worse then over doing an mdxx dose. You wanna get to that peak and stay there. Too much just gets me munted and ruins the whole experience and has me wishing I just drank or something. Roughy 100mg is perfect for me. And if someone is going to do 250mg of decent MDMA for there first time I'd be betting there gonna fuck it for themselves. That's Just my view on the subject though.

Gave a head strong mate an estimated 150mg+ MDA pill on the weekend. When it kicked in he just sat down and said he wanted to go home lol. So I took him home and then he just sat around for the next few hours with his eyes half closed not doing anything lolm
 
@oldred & floatinground:
In regards to alcohol and MDMA. It was posted about awhile back from Mister. If I remember correctly Alcohol ENHANCES the affects of MDMA by about 15% however MDMA dulls the affects of alcohol significantly (upto 80%) Not sure on my figures but it was around that. You can go searching through this thread if you want to find and read the study.

@Hektissity
I really think it depends on the user, as I said, my first dose was very high and it didn't ruin it for me at all. If anything it turned me into the MDMA enthusiast you see I am today. But I've seen people who just need to sit down and do their own thing on high doses of MD with inexperienced users. Most of the time these people are still having a very good time, but often a lower dose would be better as they would get the full MD experience oppose to just zonking out and feeling euphoric.
 
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