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The MDxx Discussion Thread Number 3!

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junkie skumbag said:
grrrr i dont know why people say MDMA leaves you feeling shit the following days!MDMA should leave you feeling JUST as clean the following days as any MDxx.if you get CLEAN MDMA it will leave you feeling fine the following days
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If you take MDMA every week your gunna suffer regardless of purity. I used to eat it like sherbet week in week out and I always felt tired during the week and got the Tuesday blues after weeks of abuse. Its mechanism of action leaves no doubt of that.

These days I only indulge every 2-3 months, I still go hard and can power through a gram as I am a drug pig. Difference is my recovery rate, I feel fine by monday night. I still feel a bit sluggish but its manageable.

I choose not to get on it every weekend now and shudder at the thought of getting trashed every weekend. Im an old cunt though and Im certainly not judging because my younger years were spent getting fucling mangled and I LOVED it. I still love it but leave it for special occasions these days.

Maybe some people are immune to come downs? every single person I know suffers when they over indulge, some of them dont realise it themselves but you see the change. Their work ethic becomes shit, their homes or bedrooms are messy, they alienate themselves from friends and/or family because all they want to do and all they can think of is getting trashed. Rent, food and generally taking care of the basics takes a back seat to getting trashed. Life revolves around the next Friday and doesnt stop till Sunday, then the rest of the week seems too hard so you cant wait till Friday..........and repeat lol.

Been there, got the tshirt. Id probably end up in a mental hospital if I tried to live the lifestyle I did in my 20's and 30's
 
drug_mentor, I was the exact same. MDMA use to leave me feeling like it apparently should, and I would always say nah never get comedowns to everyone when they were comming down... Well, weekend after weekend that all changes! Obviously, people using weekend after weekend thats not the way to use MDMA we know that, I was only stating that MDEA certainly feels not as harsh and what MDMA does :)

mister, I was the exact same, and it boils down to where you are in life too if you have something to feel down about then you'll know about it on a comedown as for me the rutt I was in when abusing MDMA
 
mister said:
So really, its just people guessing its MDEA? Although I dont doubt peoples experiences, I find it odd that a chemist would make MDEA instead of MDMA or MDA? unless for the novelty value
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Correct and agreed.

@MrSpeedyG
The ez-test you were referring to is Simons which will turn blue if a secondary amine is present. This being the second M of MDMA or the E in MDEA. =)
 
A few other obvious reasons for bad comedown..

1. dancing all day/night without eating and just drinking water or energy drinks
2. other drugs taken before/at same time/after
 
Just got sum nice crystal and going to try a new roa :D

Was hoping to get the peoples consesus.

Whats better IM'ing 120mg or plugging 120-150mg

Is it worth IM or will i get a similar experience just from plugging
 
Never heard of anyone doing MDMA via IM, IV yes but I wouldn't reccomend it have a search of some IV MDMA reports some claim way to intense and dirty and I personally wouldnt do it. Throw on top that MDMA is never that pure it's not an IV drug IMHO.

MDMA is best used orally or rectally, if I was you go rectal is you want more out of it, faster come up and is more bioavailible than oral so dose should be a bit less than an oral dose.
 
IM'ing street drugs scares the shit out of me. In fact, IV'ing street drugs scares me, but I do it. I'd much rather plug than IM, but I'd IV over IM any day.
 
drug_mentor said:
I don't really think it is helpful to be spouting stuff like this, just because YOU don't get a comedown from clean MDMA doesn't mean that nobody will. I see SO many people bitching on this site and others how bad hangovers are, yet I find hangovers to be entirely manageable for the most part.

Obviously less clean MDMA is likely to make you feel worse than clean gear is, but for some people (I fall into this category) taking MDMA is guaranteed to leave one feeling shitty for the next couple days. I personally found after I abused MDMA the comedowns started to get a lot worse for me and when I started out I used to wonder wtf people were talking about when they moaned about MDMA comedowns, but have come to find they definately exist!

I don't know why people experience something and automatically assume everyone else in the whole world will experience the same...
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well fuck man im just giving my opinion....what i should of said is.IF you are not abusing MDMA and havnt in the past using clean MDMA with a sensible dose you SHOULD be feeling fine the next day......
 
AFA said:
Just got sum nice crystal and going to try a new roa :D

Was hoping to get the peoples consesus.

Whats better IM'ing 120mg or plugging 120-150mg

Is it worth IM or will i get a similar experience just from plugging
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dont IM your MDMA man just plug it.its alot safer plus you wont have to stick a needle in yourself (just up ur ass without the needle :p ) when i've missed shots when IV'ing MDMA it hurts like a BITCH and leaves a big lump there for a couple of days.not a very nice feeling.....plug it man.plugging feels alot like IV'ing it but it dosnt have that rush that is to die for when you get when IV'ing.i had a IM in hospitable the other night for my back back it was painful as fuck....the needle has to go in very deep when you IM.it was a very unclean injection no swabbing before the injection and she didnt put any pressure where the needle was after she took it out,also she didnt put anything on the injection site and when i got home i had a big blood stain on my nice white shorts :(
 
junkie skumbag said:
dont IM your MDMA man just plug it.its alot safer plus you wont have to stick a needle in yourself (just up ur ass without the needle :p ) when i've missed shots when IV'ing MDMA it hurts like a BITCH and leaves a big lump there for a couple of days.not a very nice feeling.....plug it man.plugging feels alot like IV'ing it but it dosnt have that rush that is to die for when you get when IV'ing.i had a IM in hospitable the other night for my back back it was painful as fuck....the needle has to go in very deep when you IM.it was a very unclean injection no swabbing before the injection and she didnt put any pressure where the needle was after she took it out,also she didnt put anything on the injection site and when i got home i had a big blood stain on my nice white shorts :(
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I had similar experience when i got a flu shot a couple weeks ago, no swap bitch nurse even fukn scraped around in my muscle (she was talking to her coleague the whole time) now my shoulder is just getting better now.

Tho in general iv had good exp with nurses.

I think ima go the plugging option. Curious how much water to mix with a point of rocky crystal md.

And will i need to shit sometime after or not. Weighing up whether to plug for my first time at a doof or save for.house party
 
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IM'ing street drugs scares the shit out of me
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I'd much rather plug than IM
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agree. its a fucking scurge on society that mdma is solely to be supplied by unregulated street chemists as opposed to pharm grade and taxed pure substances. society needs to wake the fuck up.
Curious how much water to mix with a point of rocky crystal md.
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just enough to break it down and dissolve. doesnt really matter though. people plug bangers.
And will i need to shit sometime after or not.
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try to take a bowel movement prior to plugging. its common to need to shit on a stim come up so do the deed prior.

tbh i could never see the point of putting a drug up my ass, for me it just doesn't feel right. id either eat, snort, or bang. whatever floats your boat. :)
 
AFA said:
I had similar experience when i got a flu shot a couple weeks ago, no swap bitch nurse even fukn scraped around in my muscle (she was talking to her coleague the whole time) now my shoulder is just getting better now.

Tho in general iv had good exp with nurses.

I think ima go the plugging option. Curious how much water to mix with a point of rocky crystal md.

And will i need to shit sometime after or not. Weighing up whether to plug for my first time at a doof or save for.house party
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you shouldnt need any more than a ml when its shot up i use 60 units not even thats just over half a ml.when i plug tho i use about 2-3mls of water......i wouldnt plug at a doof or a house party.i pefer to plug when im chilling at home with some tunes or tv on.....i find it really smacky
 
Thanks for all the good info man.

Looks like il stick to oral and insufflation for this weekend ;)

Il post sum molly porn of the nice bag i jst picked up when i get the chance
 
I have said, I think for the last 10 years at least, that MDEA is surely extremely rare. Aside from novelty value I cannot see the point in anyone making it. (And no, it is not made accidentally when MDMA is manufactured. Neither can MDMA be realistically made from MDEA and vice versa).

About the only time I could see it being done is if for some reason a group was sitting on an MDXX precursor, such as MDP2P, they needed cash flow quick smart, and for certain reasons they just couldn't procure methylamine (one of the most watched chemicals on the planet). So they opt for MDEA, using ethylamine instead, which in relative terms wouldn't raise an eyebrow and still provide them with a highly desirable product (albeit needing a greater dose). Of course whilst that might make sense, if they went for ammonia, also a far less watched chemical when it is not pressurised into a liquid and sitting inside a gas cylinder, they would get MDA. With MDA's better effects and lower dose, surely they would go with this option. (I might add the MDMA drought was not for want of methylamine but of course the more crucial principal precursors we know all about).

Unless the pill is lab tested it is impossible for ANYONE to say with any degree of accuracy they have had MDEA, aside from the person that made it. What you have been told is meaningless because this person cannot know unless they are the manufacturer or they were arrested, their pills got tested and the police told them what the results were and they happen to be MDEA. The mere fact people bang on, over and over again, about differing purity levels and the myriad of different impurities within a MDMA pill or powder contributing to such a huge difference on the effects experienced and even the comedown later, it is nonsensical that they would also be able to pick a MDEA pill because they simply "felt a little different" this time.

For me comedowns were far worse when I was just starting out and the pills were undoubtedly of better quality and of a higher dose. The old saying, the higher you go up the further you must come down. But everybody is different and I hardly think the degree of comedown is a reliable guide to the substance consumed. Perhaps the definition of "comedown" needs to be clarified too, as after reading some of the comments on here I think people might be talking about different concepts.

I have said this many times before but I may as well say it again. I know a person who has seen hundreds, if not a thousand or more lab results from seized pills in Australia over a number of years (however, I will concede not in the last 12 months). Of the pills which contained some type of MDXX substance, the vast majority were MDMA only. MDA is certainly the next most common, then probably MDMA/MDA combos and then other random MDMA combos involving a whole host of other drugs. MDEA barely cracked a mention. There was one strong green mitsi years ago that had MDMA and MDEA but of all of those different results, MDEA as the sole active substance in a pill might have been found no more than three times. Now that doesn't account for every pill that's ever been across our country over the last ten years. Of course it doesn't. But the sample size was certainly large enough to be statistically relevant and the only conclusion that can be drawn from it is that MDEA is so rare to be almost non-existent.

I have certainly come across safrole like chemicals being used in dodgy pills to fool the testers. The smell and the taste is a dead giveaway but I cannot really describe it. The MDP2P smell that we all know and love is quite different to safrole. More sweet/lolly like is the only way I can describe it. And the best MDMA crystal I enjoyed recently (translucent brown chunks, extremely hard to break, and fizzing, violent to black test results) had no smell at all (which is expected for very high purity MDMA).
 
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people forget that set and settings can change the effect a pill has, I think this can lead people to conclude they had mdma/mda/mdea
 
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