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The long term effects of the 2c's

jamesmartin

jamesmartin

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But what i am most interested in is 2c-i , as it is known for its strong visuals . This is exactly what i want as i cannot find LSD or shrooms around here at all .

Unless you guys can think of a different research chem more like LSD please tell me ? (im a newb at this sorry)


I will be planning to trip around once or twice a week until my gram has finished.

And my main question ( apart from the one in bold ) is to all you guys out there who use the 2c's on a regular basis .

I want to know everything you have experienced after a prolonged use of the 2c's . both bad and good . inc. Physical , mental , etc . (for example - Your memory isnt what it used to be , or you have noticed you have become a bit loopy <---- Stuff like that )

Please share everything ... i WILL read it .



I am asking this as not much is known about the long term effects of the 2c's so i thought the closest i could get to knowing them is asking you guys :)

Thank you very much guys , i appreciate it
 
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If you want something closer to LSD you should probably look into tryptamines. You probably won't get a great response to the rest of your question, no one knows much about the long term risks of such substances.
 
IME, the most "LSD-like" of the 2C series is 2C-E, however none of them are really that close to the LSD experience. And I personally didn't like 2C-I very much, bad body load and I always felt I could easily be taking something better.

Like you said, nothing really is known about the long-term effects of 2C-x, however it is not unreasonable to expect that they have a similar safety profile to the traditional psychedelics.

Be safe, have fun.
 
for visuals...wow 2C-I is very visual...bit mad...2C-E's visuals are the closest to acid for me...except quite often I find the visuals better...more defined and more hectic pounding ya in the face..good times...
 
All it really is is physical discomfort during a trip, it's exactly what it sounds like. The muscles are too tense, some flushing/clamminess, etc. Generally regarded as a bad thing.

The dealbreaker with 2C-I is less an inherent problem with the drug itself, but more the fact that it's not as good as other similar drugs.
 
Hello there Jamesmartin. I have a special spot in my heart for Phens.

2c-i would be a nice introduction to the Phens for you. i found 2c-c much too light and 2c-e very intense, but that one there hold a very special spot.



I just recently got some 2c-i last Friday and have tripped twice, once at 15mgs and another at 22 mgs


This is the difference you will feel from this drug compared to the old legendary LSD and Psilocybin Mushrooms.



It has a sort of buzz like ecstasy but not like it, do you kind of understand that? It feels good and it can feel bad, it depends on the person. I tend to get this feeling in my balls that is kinda tingly, like when I get super excited. It isn't sexual normally but it could be! For example, I am lacking an erection and i get the tingles in my scrotum and it makes me want to be horny or I think about how sick the next rave I am going to is going to be and I get tingles! Its those tingles. i dont know if anyone has them...... :-P but ya... moving along...

Anyways, visually I am a bit disappointed but i have been smoking cannabis on the come up and that normally messes with the visuals on Phens for me. I am considering taking another dose tonight but I am not sure yet... I have no cannabis and that is normally what knocks me out because the drug is stimulating. anyways..


Visuals are more geometric on the 2c-x's, mechanical like. It is not like LSD where everything just seems so alive and you cant see a pattern (for me at least). I have yet to see an intense pattern on 2c-i but I did see it on 2c-e and a but on 2c-c. There was one though, dont get me wrong and it controls your visuals.

Mind space is chill, I feel sober mentally.

it is a nice recreational drug overall. i could see taking this at a party or something. Nice energy, audio and visual boost.

Also, I find it sedating too! I just lay in my blankets naked and rub myself. Feels soooo goood. lol


Sex=amazing


if you are not used to the body high though you may consider it a bodyLOAD. At first while doing 2c-e I hated the body feeling and even 2c-c I hated it. Than i did 4-aco-dmt and felt so fuckin shitty but somehow I mentally turned that around and the buzzes are now pleasurable.

and uhmm.... Yea its pretty neat stuff.

NOW I WOULD NOT CONSIDER THIS A MUSHROOM OR LSD REPLACEMENT. It is nothing like the two and has a synthetic feel to it. You have to remember that Shulgin synthesized these drugs for a reason, for psychology and health purposes so they do tend to push more on the serious side but than again they can be recreational if you make them that way.


Last; I have not had any side effects. I did 2c-i on 10/31 and 11/01 and don't notice anything weird. On the other 2c-x's i didnt notice anything else either and I would have to say LSD is the only substance I felt after effects from for about a week. (Orgasms were horrible, I mean I didn't even feel me ejaculate and it was a small amount of semen, Depression and loss of appetite) But that was only after one time of LSD, weird huh? I still love my Lucy :)
 
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Wow thank you for that Felix ! Really appreciate the post. ...

So does anyone experience paranoia or anxiety ???
As this seems to be a problem with me on weed and LSD
 
jamesmartin said:
Wow thank you for that Felix ! Really appreciate the post. ...

So does anyone experience paranoia or anxiety ???
As this seems to be a problem with me on weed and LSD
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Your welcome! :)

Nope. The 2c-x's are generally Mindfuck free!(well at normal dosages... go deeper and you will find yourself a bit baffled about things) You will see what I mean. This is a wonderful thing for introspection.


I would get some anxiety though when my set and setting werent the best. Example on 2c-e:

My mom still lived with me so when i tripped I would have to hide from her or when i came home I would have to pretend I was sleeping. This caused me horrible body load and anxiety that made me cringe :!


Be sure everything is in good shape for your trip, makes a big difference!
 
Sweet. I can't to get enough money for a gram together .

Sorry , one more question...

Does is play with your short term memory at all? Or kill brain cells ? Or nobody knows?

I know it sounds like typical government propoganda but I dunno about the 2cs as they are new to me
 
You should check out http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showthread.php?t=287026&page=4

In response to your question, No... or not that I know of. These chemicals seem to not be toxic, at least at doses below 100mg.

2c-i has shown some HPPD symptoms in some users though but it isn't really anything to worry about, most people who do have the effects abused the substance.
 
Hey, jamesmartin, I figured I'd add my opinions, since the members of the 2C series are some of my favorite substances.

I agree with Felix that 2C-I is a great 2C with which to start. As you can see, there's some disagreement about body load and visuals, but I personally found 2C-I to be incredibly visual at 20mg (especially CEV's, which blew away any other substance), and thought the body high was wonderful. 2C-I can also be very introspective, but often lacks the depth of LSD and mushrooms.

IMO, when used in the proper context, 2C-E can be a therapeutic and psychonautical tool on par with LSD. The visuals tend to be similar, though they certainly have their own character (for me, acid visuals tend to resemble constantly shifting object boundaries, whereas 2C-E visuals are billowing and full of motion - such as clouds and waves in a painting on the wall moving as though I was watching a movie). The body high/load can be similar as well. I find that its uncomfortable nature stems not from a toxic or strictly physical feeling, but rather the sensation of having become the conduit for an excessive amount of energy (as Felix said, it buzzes - sometimes you can even hear it!) Then again, I have had 2C-E trips that were accompanied by the most blissful, euphoric body rushes I have ever experienced; it all depends on how you channel the energy.

I have not experienced any side effects from my use of phenethylamines, with one exception. Ever since childhood, I have had random experiences of falling into an emotional state of profound and almost paralyzing unfamiliarity (I've come to call it "pure potentiality") that lasts a maximum of 2-3 minutes. This normally occurred a few times a year, but since I've begun to use LSD and 2C compounds (mushrooms did not affect it), this experience has increased in frequency to nearly once a week. I don't consider this a negative effect; it's actually quite meditative. Nevertheless, it's still an effect worth considering, given its close relationship to my use of psychedelics. Has anyone else experienced something similar?

I hope you find this information helpful. Safe journeys, and be sure to share your experiences!
 
The risk of HPPD with 2c's doesn't seem to be anymore than with more traditional psychedelics. As for long term effects, obviously not much is known, but if we're to take the Shulgins as case studies, they appear to be pretty safe, as they both started somewhat regular use of them (as well as many other chemicals) in the 70s, if not before.

IME, there aren't any real memory issues with the 2c-x's. I also am usually noticably absent of the "brain mush" feeling I get after and LSD or 4-sub-tryptamines. The metabolism of these may cause the production of free radicals, which may well be carcinogenic, however an antioxidant regimen the day of & after can completely negate this. Also, not a bad idea to get a lot of antioxidants on a daily basis regardless of whether you use drugs or not.

the 2c-t-x's appear to be more toxic, but I can't speak to that too much, as the only one I've tried is 2c-t-2, but I didn't experience any of the "toxic" effects that bother a lot of people with that substance. The only 2c-x that i would be particularly wary of would be 2c-p, and that one's pretty hard to find. Things like 2c-e, 2c-i, 2c-c, and especially 2c-d seem to be pretty non-toxic. I've heard anecdotal evidence of 2c-e being used at up to 100mg to no significant ill effects, and studies of 2c-d have been done that ranged into the hundreds of milligrams. This would lead me to believe they're quite forgiving.
 
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Nope. The 2c-x's are generally Mindfuck free!(well at normal dosages... go deeper and you will find yourself a bit baffled about things) You will see what I mean. This is a wonderful thing for introspection.
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LOL at 'baffled'. That's exactly the right word for how I've felt at the peak of my experiences with high dose 2C-C or high dose 2C-E. Rarely truly freaked out, as I have been on LSD or tryptamines. Just sometimes profoundly baffled. On lower (but still quite active visually) doses of 2C-xs (esp 2C-B) there's been little mental effects at all for me.

Re: Long term effects; who knows? From my personal experience of semi-frequent 2C-x use over the last few years, I've not noticed any effects obviously due to them. But who knows? If there have been no proper studies, we can't really know.
 
Sweet guys .

And I'm guessing there is tolerance to the 2cs .

What's it like sleeping on the substance ? Could you do it? ( I know u probably wouldn't want to but I'm just asking ) . ... Because I'm not sure if it's just me but I love to use psycs sometimes on a Friday night and lay in a dark room in my bed and then eventually drift off to sleep ?
I'm sure the patterns are more crazy in the dark with 2c-I eh? Cos it's like that with CID and shrooms
 
I doubt you could sleep on it. You will be laying there for quite some time before you finally get to sleep. When I did 2c-e the first time I didn't get to sleep until WAY after the trip and even then didn't get much sleep (but there was almost no hangover effect at all, I was energized and ready to go the next day, only experiencing some sluggishness later in the day). When I was tripping on 2c-e I craved stimulation, I needed it. I needed there to be music/movies/video games going on. I needed this stimulation. If i was just sitting/laying in one place for to long I would become restless and anxious and the bodyload would creep up on me making me quite uncomfortable.

Not sure how in the dark would be as I haven't tried it while peaking. If some good music was playing Im sure it would be fantastic. Music was just as good as any visuals I saw. But I think I would get restless and want to explore some visual stimulation. My mind was racing and trying to just chill and relax was sort of hard. I really wanted to just explore everything and try everything.

If your looking for the best visuals go for 2C-E. I haven't done 2C-I but my friends have and they say the visuals can be disappointing sometimes if you have done 2c-e or stronger hallucinogens before.
 
I have heard reports elsewhere of endocrinal problems associated with 2C-i, more specifically, under activity of the thyroid. The thyroid is well known to have an affinity for iodine compounds - so it kind of makes sense.
 
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