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The Last Covid-19 Megathread v. Hopefully...

Mr. Krinkle said:
if you guys are claiming the vaccines are ultra-safe according to studies, then how can vaccine side-effects be "massively inflated"?
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Disinformation, misinterpreted data and false anecdotes.

Lots of you guys truly believe everyone who got vaccines is going to get cancer, die from blood clots or some shit.

That is massively overinflated BS.
 
Snafu in the Void said:
Lots of you guys truly believe everyone who got vaccines is going to get cancer, die from blood clots or some shit.

That is massively overinflated BS.
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How do you know for sure that it is. I mean I understand why you would believe that, it's a reasonable position to hold, but you can't know for sure that Gates didn't add a dash of his satanic piss into it.

If in 10 years we don't see any alarming trends then I think we can draw a line under it. But right now we're only a year in, and I'd say the data isn't exactly conforming to your belief to be honest. Excess mortality is up around the world, lot's of adverse reactions. The big one will be fertility rates in another year or two, by then it should be clear whether there was something affecting that.
 
You know what, that would actually be kinda funny.... if everyone dies from vaccines in 5 years like a collective Jim Jones super move.

Then the meek tinfoil people inherit the earth. Tucker Carlson becomes emperor of the world and cucks everyone into oblivion.

So sayeth Nostradamus.
 
that reminds me, when are all the fundies getting sucked up to heaven so we can actually make heaven on earth??
 
You know what's painfully ironic, Fox News had a vaccine mandate for it's employees and 90%+ of them are vaccinated.... all while spewing out disinformation about vaccines and mandates.

:facepalm:🤡
 
nepalnt21 said:
tbh, i never meant that as an insult directed at you (i assume you have more info than a single tweet), so my bad if it came across that way...
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Alright, I'll believe you
nepalnt21 said:
do you really think a single dude from one city is enough? this is, afterall, a worldwide pandemic
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l don't think there are any hospitals in the U.S. that don't test everyone when they enter. Maybe not right away for a gunshot victim, but eventually. Nobody in 2020 was keeping track of "with covid" or "from covid" and I don't think they were in at least most of 2021, so we'll most likely never get the data from then and all the deaths that weren't from covid will still be counted as covid deaths.

Even if they are keeping track now, the CDC still isn't giving access to that data on their website, at least that I can see, for reasons that I assume would discredit the govt, media etc that constantly pushed "covid death" numbers
 
I was vaccinated, but don't plan on getting a booster. Don't think it's really necessary. I have yet to get the stuff personally. My mom works with young kids who are likely majority unvaccinated, she has been keeping up with the boosters. She's older and so for her case I can understand, but for me, I don't find it necessary.

Also, please cool it with the insults, make whatever point you want to make without tearing into others please.
 
ADE = Antibody Dependent Enhancement

Abs = Antibodies

None of the sera examined exhibited neutralizing activity against infection with the Omicron strain. Rather, some ADE of Omicron infection was observed in some sera. These results suggest the possible emergence of adverse effects caused by these Abs in addition to the therapeutic or preventive effect
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These results suggest that the rapid spread of Omicron around the world may in part result from the lack of cross-neutralization against Omicron and some ADE activity of sera after vaccination
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www.nature.com

Reevaluation of antibody-dependent enhancement of infection in anti-SARS-CoV-2 therapeutic antibodies and mRNA-vaccine antisera using FcR- and ACE2-positive cells - Scientific Reports

Many therapeutic antibodies (Abs) and mRNA vaccines, both targeting SARS-CoV-2 spike protein (S-protein), have been developed and approved in order to combat the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. In consideration of these developments, a common concern has been the potential for Ab-dependent...
www.nature.com www.nature.com
 
Honestly,
it seems to me that this thread (and whatever others that are similar, in other forums too) will degenerate into 2 different profiles of people subtly accusing each other, of which each one will think that he is right and that it is incredible that the other does not realize how wrong they are..
I doubt very much that nobody is going to change their opinion today, or tomorrow.
For me the data is clear and evident, but it is seen that each one looks at the data as it suits them best to continue thinking as they think or to support a decision they did and they don't intend to change or one that they can no longer change. Discussion seems totaly futile.

Personally, I have the feeling of living in a theater where a majority of people live who are totally reluctant to think that we live in a theater, so, ironically, they are the best "actors" facing the gallery, and also so they will feel until there is some event (I don't know what more they need now...) that reveals the script to them.
I guess it's really hard existentially to think that the world looks like a Truman Show.
 
Neuroborean said:
Personally, I have the feeling of living in a theater where a majority of people live who are totally reluctant to think that we live in a theater, so, ironically, they are the best "actors" facing the gallery, and also so they will feel until there is some event (I don't know what more they need now...) that reveals the script to them.
I guess it's really hard existentially to think that the world looks like a Truman Show.
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we should make a thread about this in 'philosophy and spirituality'...

i'm just too lazy to do it myself.
 
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