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Kratom The Kratom Megathread

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I've found different strains have vastly different characters.

I wouldn't boil in water, I found that to be really wasteful. Just eat the powder. I parachute it, you could mix in orange juice or water and chug it. You can also mix in yogurt and shove it into your gullet as fast as you can.
 
Tea works great if you keep the water at the right temp and abstain from adding the kratom til' the water is at the correct temperature so that the kratom actually disperses in the water as opposed to floating on top. 15 mins at just under a boil, no bubbles, is enough to pull just about everything out with imo, a superior effect profile (less nausea, faster come-up, easy on the stomach etc...). I just add half a gram extra and make sure I squeeze the remaining pulp through a layered T-shirt to ensure I got all the goodies.
 
Man, propylhexedrine and kratom is absolutely nuts. I can't believe I can feel this good on legal drugs I can order online. I'm on 375 mg extracted out of the cotton with the oils separated out and thrown away. I took the kratom about four hours after the benzedrex and it's so damn smooth. I'm not getting any nasty comedown and they're so synergistic. I did a mix of bali and maeng da. I highly recommend this combo.

My dick is super tiny right now, though.
 
Doldrugs said:
Man, propylhexedrine and kratom is absolutely nuts. I can't believe I can feel this good on legal drugs I can order online. I'm on 375 mg extracted out of the cotton with the oils separated out and thrown away. I took the kratom about four hours after the benzedrex and it's so damn smooth. I'm not getting any nasty comedown and they're so synergistic. I did a mix of bali and maeng da. I highly recommend this combo.

My dick is super tiny right now, though.
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You're lucky you didn't suffer a hypertensive event via the synergism of NE and adrenergic activity caused by taking these two drugs in tandem. Just on paper alone I would recommend having a copious amount of benzos on hand to anyone who sees this guy's post and wants to try it.
 
pinpoint said:
You're lucky you didn't suffer a hypertensive event via the synergism of NE and adrenergic activity caused by taking these two drugs in tandem. Just on paper alone I would recommend having a copious amount of benzos on hand to anyone who sees this guy's post and wants to try it.
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Can you elaborate? I wasn't aware of anything unsafe about the two. At no point did it feel toxic or was I overstimulated.

For the record I did have benzos on hand.
 
hmmm. i love taking Bali with my adderall and vyvanse every day. best mood lifter and antidepressant ever. and i don't even crave opiates anymore. i used to use them like crazy and if i wasn't, i was craving them and pissed cause i couldn't have them. haven't really touched anything i used to since i was introduced to kratom. i bought it during a bad amphetamine comedown, it helped wonderfully.

but it's not only good for the comedown or to mix with other things. i very much enjoy it alone.

a friend of mine says she gets a ''comedown'' from kratom, i've never heard of that happening to anyone before.
 
Unless by comedown she means "awesome content feeling."

I always research drug interactions before I take them. I just did a quick check to see if I missed something. I'm just not seeing any indication that combining these drugs was dangerous. It certainly didn't feel dangerous. Kratom is a pretty safe drug overall. But I'd definitely like to know if there's reason to be cautious.
 
Doldrugs said:
Unless by comedown she means "awesome content feeling."

I always research drug interactions before I take them. I just did a quick check to see if I missed something. I'm just not seeing any indication that combining these drugs was dangerous. It certainly didn't feel dangerous. Kratom is a pretty safe drug overall. But I'd definitely like to know if there's reason to be cautious.
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kinda fun living life on the edge sometimes ;) haha. and yeah comedown? i have never understood that and have only heard it from her.
 
CaptainKratom said:
Tea works great if you keep the water at the right temp and abstain from adding the kratom til' the water is at the correct temperature so that the kratom actually disperses in the water as opposed to floating on top. 15 mins at just under a boil, no bubbles, is enough to pull just about everything out with imo, a superior effect profile (less nausea, faster come-up, easy on the stomach etc...). I just add half a gram extra and make sure I squeeze the remaining pulp through a layered T-shirt to ensure I got all the goodies.
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sorry for the novel i wrote you, how embarassing
 
Doldrugs said:
Can you elaborate? I wasn't aware of anything unsafe about the two. At no point did it feel toxic or was I overstimulated.

For the record I did have benzos on hand.
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Some people are more prone than others. So propylhexedrine is a potent norepinephrine releaser and kratom has a stimulant effect via its action at adrenergic receptors. The combination of a lot of NE floating around and stimulation of adrenergic receptors could lead to an uncomfortable level of adrenalin coursing through the body. This can lead to a hypertensive crisis. If you don't know what these words mean just google them.

Of course you won't find much on propylhexedrine & kratom combo interactions. They are both relatively obscure drugs as opposed to the mainstream ones.
 
Do you have any sources for this? At what doses is this possible? Surely I'd notice too much adrenaline, right?
 
Doldrugs said:
Do you have any sources for this? At what doses is this possible? Surely I'd notice too much adrenaline, right?
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Do I really need to cite sources for propylhexedrine's NE releasing ability and kratom's alpha-adrenergic effects? I'm not saying you didn't have a great experience, I am simply warning others that they may not find it to be as 'smooth' as you did. For HR's sake.
 
pinpoint said:
Do I really need to cite sources for propylhexedrine's NE releasing ability and kratom's alpha-adrenergic effects? I'm not saying you didn't have a great experience, I am simply warning others that they may not find it to be as 'smooth' as you did. For HR's sake.
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I'm not arguing with you man, I want to understand the information. Specifically where the doses become dangerous. I've never read any indication of this being dangerous and frankly there's a lot of misinformation about drugs out there, even on this site. There's no reason to be defensive.
 
^Nope - it looks like they put their kratom in capsules and sell it in headshops with fancy packaging.. therefore I'd recommend staying away if not only for the reason that vendors like them will be the ones to get kratom banned.

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It is, I know of at least one vendor who stocks it. I tried it recently and it's incredibly weak and barely feels opioid, even kratom is alot stronger. It's more of a mood-lift than an opiate buzz IME. If tianeptine had such pronounced mu agonsim, you'd think it wouldn't have taken so many years for this activity to have been discovered. It was founded in the 60's and we barely found out this year it was a mu and kappa agonist.
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Just a follow up to the tianeptine comment - it does have an opioid effect. The itchies are what gave it away as definitely not being placebo. I don't find it particularly anxiolytic or euphoric. It's more of an 'I just took a prescribed dose of oxycodone' type of feel. It could be useful for kratom withdrawal however it is not helping the lingering anxiety I am having as a result of the aftermath of a little etizolam binge earlier this month.
 
^Yeah 150 mgs of tianeptine felt very much like a mild oxycodone, complete with pinpoint pupils and everything. The fact that it totally blocks withdrawal while not being particularly recreational makes a perfect for helping one get off of kratom.
 
Well i took roughly between 6 to 10mg of.ativan and also a 15mg and 7.5mg mirtazapime...then abouy 2hrs later i took roughly 6grams of mixed.kratom(red,green,maeng.da borneo,vietnam and bentuangie.all mixed up in a bag)..ih and also a clonidine and ambiem beforr taking ths.kratom
My quesrion is will the mirtazapine react.witj the kratom at all?or any of the other meds itook..i juat need a nice escape right now so i just tookwhat all i thought wud make me feel realxed,i was just in an argument with my gf and usually i punch things,and.also yell in complete rage wen i get this mad..i really need like 3 bars help,but.i donthave.access ro that rn..
Will any of thesewill affect thekratom.?like synergze or potentiate?
Really wudlikeaquick responh,but i know how this.goes.......but if Nyone has any knlkwledge on bad or good.combo for not givinga *bleep* rn?..and hopefully get close to a nod...im so fukin stresswdrn...like on my teddy bear im hella nstrwssed oit
 
I have.theoeized that witj kratom,its alkaloid profile may be altered by rainfall in the areas of where it was harvested..i think the best time for growers to get the maximum amount of alkaloid in the leaf,u musf essentially starve the plant/tree..

I say thi because i know with marijiana and mescaline bearing cacti,its best to harvest the little buggers well afyer it has rained..or if u grow urswlf,then dont water the plant a week or two before harvesting..
I say this because when u water a plant,especially when its fully matured,u are going to end up flushing out some of the alkaloid. Making it less stronger in terms of alkaloid profile...but then there's factors including soil,contaminants, like chemical spills or even tje radiation feom bombs dropped on and in aroumd the kratoms natural habitat in the vietnam war..and cambodian war..may be a wee bit off about the last one,....but im almost positive that u can maximize ur plants alkaloids and maybe the profile by not letring it get watered ata ll for at least 4-7 daus...most id say wud be 8-10 days of the plant can withstand..or u cud just water little bits here and there ro see if the alkaloids seem to ne stronger or lighter or even different....
All this of course if u are growing it..JUST MY 2cents..
Id Like all ur guys rhought on this...if it makes any sense to you..

Try an go look up about not watering ur weed plant for sone days right wen its going to get fully matured....get to that fully matured state and wait a little while longer to just make sure most that no water was given to the plant.
I think this works because wen u water,yes, u are growing ur plant,u have to make sure that bad boy gets all its nutrients....but everytime u water em,they lose some alkaloids,not all,but just enuff...bit wen u dont the alkloids build up pretty quickly..
So can we get some ideas in this idea of mine?
Dont let ur krayom plant get watered around the time u know u will be harvesting..or if ur in a climate where thus plant grows,go out after its been raining,a few days/weeks or week and a half ro harvest to get the highest yield possible
 
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