Are you getting muscle twitches? Fuxxed sleep? Palpitations? G would probably be one of my favorites were it not for the weird toxic shit that I get after a while of 24/7 + the grim, grim WDs.
Yup. All of those and...
Shambles , this may sound weird but after a good night on the phenibut do you feel slightly electric? As if your muscles and nervous system has been drained or overcharged? Its really unsettling.
... those too. Was wondering how to describe that effect. Used to get it on GBL too... but only after weeks of 24/7 usage. This time it's only been a fortnight or so and is much more pronounced. Really quite unpleasant. Is why it's proving kinda tricky to taper even from such a relatively low amount. Have been taking daily (and nightly
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
) at regular intervals though. Fukkin stooopid thing to do given I'm well aware of the risks of...
That'll be the ol' GABA rape!
Must admit I didn't think it would get this bad so quickly. Especially as I've never had such problems even with very heavy GBL/GHB use in the past. Could always taper and quit those pretty easily with relatively light w/d effects. Kinda caught myself out here though I think. Oopsies.
On the plus side...
Sham, for what it worth, I really admire your strength of character and determination. You've kicked smack and crack habits, you've tapered off your tramodol and you have the intelligence and foresight to recognise potential addiction problems and nip them swiftly in the bud.
I have lots of respect for you my friend. Makes me feel a bit of a twat for still being stupidly addicted to codeine linctus.
Thanks for that, Curious
Is nice to be reminded of whatever qualities I may possess surrounding problematic drug use. Is true I've managed to develop habitual, destructive and addictive relationships with more or less any chemical companion that can be abused in such ways. You'd think I'd've learnt by now. I may have some small measure of character strength and determination (sort of... maybe... in moderation
) but is balanced out - if not outright outweighed
- by being a fukkin moron sometimes. Self-inflicted wounds every time 8)
And don't be down about a codeine habit. Is an opioid just like any other. Is one of the "easiest" to develop a habit on cos is so comparatively easy to catch you out due to being thought of as though it were somehow a "lesser" opioid - one that nobody should have a problem with. That's just not the case though. Habituation, tolerance and addiction apply just the same as other, more potent opioids. Tapering and - if desired - quitting is eminently doable though. The w/d are actually pretty shitty (surprisingly so really) but can be mostly avoided with a sensible and realistic tapering regime. Simple fact of the matter is it's pretty easy to just take less each day - or slower if needs be - and eventually just jump off with no real need to alleviate symptoms with much of anything. A few days of feeling kinda ropey, having the chronic shits, and not getting much sleep is about as bad as it gets. The hard part is working up the desire to want to quit. The psychological aspects of addiction are - as is always the case - the real challenge. Only you know if you want or need to quit, taper, take a tolerance break or actually stop using at all.
Feel back to normal know . Just in case anyone was like i dunno interested ?
Of course we iz interested, Brimz
And good to know you're okay. You always seem to be one of the indestructible ones... but nobody really is. I'm sure you are more aware than most of your personal limits though. Hope and trust ya had fun
- is also on the rise. Need ~2.5g to really get strong effects now. Need a minimum of 1g 3-4 times a day not to feel like absolute shit 
