The Illegal Gardens Thread

[Christ!]

i reckon poppies would love a bit of chook manure

Yeah it's useful stuff! My girls definitely make enough of it.

Just need to make sure to compost it before using. I remember reading that it's too acidic to use straight on the garden.

 

[shoo-bop]

Theres 1 problem i need help with every grow indoors i do theres these tiny ass little black bugs (midges i think) that seem to live and breed in the soil.I've tried a few types of pyrethrins and even tabcoo stem in a dish of water.
I have found 1 way to sorrta fix the bug problem n thats by hanging these anti mossie things that have a really strong smell only thing is don't know if the mossie things will hurt my plants.The bugs don't seem to do much damage to the plant ( i think) but there REALLY fucking annoying when im playin with my plants or watering ect ect these bugs fly up n i tend to inhale some lol not much fun.Any tips would be great cheers ma negros

One very natural trick for general gardening purposes (i.e. deterring bugs of various species from diverse types of plants) taught to me by someone I once knew was to simmer a few hundred grams of very hot dried chilli in water for about 30 minutes, then strain it, and put it in an empty spray bottle, and spray those bugs. Capsaicin is one of nature's bug-repellants, and though I'm sure there are some insect species that can handle it, most won't appreciate it very much and will piss off. Be sparing, though, and maybe hold off for a few weeks before harvest: Your plants will absorb some of the capsaicin through their roots, and your produce will have a "spicy" flavour if you use too much or too close to harvest.

Also, I just remembered that you'd better have some good ventilation, somewhere away from the kitchen to put any pets, housemates, yourself, etc. when you're boiling up that chilli water! Otherwise, you're basically capsicum-spraying the entire interior of your abode and you and anyone else in there will have some unpleasant coughing fits, eye pain, etc. And be careful with the juice (e.g. don't tough your eyes or other sensitive bits after handling it and before stringently washing your hands)! Capsaicin ain't nuttin' to fuck with.

 

[junkie skumbag]

One very natural trick for general gardening purposes (i.e. deterring bugs of various species from diverse types of plants) taught to me by someone I once knew was to simmer a few hundred grams of very hot dried chilli in water for about 30 minutes, then strain it, and put it in an empty spray bottle, and spray those bugs. Capsaicin is one of nature's bug-repellants, and though I'm sure there are some insect species that can handle it, most won't appreciate it very much and will piss off. Be sparing, though, and maybe hold off for a few weeks before harvest: Your plants will absorb some of the capsaicin through their roots, and your produce will have a "spicy" flavour if you use too much or too close to harvest.

Also, I just remembered that you'd better have some good ventilation, somewhere away from the kitchen to put any pets, housemates, yourself, etc. when you're boiling up that chilli water! Otherwise, you're basically capsicum-spraying the entire interior of your abode and you and anyone else in there will have some unpleasant coughing fits, eye pain, etc. And be careful with the juice (e.g. don't tough your eyes or other sensitive bits after handling it and before stringently washing your hands)! Capsaicin ain't nuttin' to fuck with.

Thanks heaps for the help mate!I'll put it to work next grow "Capsaicin ain't nuttin' to fuck with." ohhhhhhhhhh im wellllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll aware of that lots of vodka and a can of pepper spray DO NOT MIX!!!!

 

[Christ!]

One very natural trick for general gardening purposes (i.e. deterring bugs of various species from diverse types of plants) taught to me by someone I once knew was to simmer a few hundred grams of very hot dried chilli in water for about 30 minutes, then strain it, and put it in an empty spray bottle, and spray those bugs. Capsaicin is one of nature's bug-repellants, and though I'm sure there are some insect species that can handle it, most won't appreciate it very much and will piss off. Be sparing, though, and maybe hold off for a few weeks before harvest: Your plants will absorb some of the capsaicin through their roots, and your produce will have a "spicy" flavour if you use too much or too close to harvest.

Also, I just remembered that you'd better have some good ventilation, somewhere away from the kitchen to put any pets, housemates, yourself, etc. when you're boiling up that chilli water! Otherwise, you're basically capsicum-spraying the entire interior of your abode and you and anyone else in there will have some unpleasant coughing fits, eye pain, etc. And be careful with the juice (e.g. don't tough your eyes or other sensitive bits after handling it and before stringently washing your hands)! Capsaicin ain't nuttin' to fuck with.

Thanks for the tip shoo-bop! I just happen to have a hot chilli bush with like 10 almost ripe chilli's on it at the moment. Also been having some issues with white fly, so will definitely be giving that a go.

 

[losthippy]

The bonus with opium and most other poppies is that they self-seed readily and will crop up for years. Even better is to incorporate the expired plants in your compost. The seed is tiny and tough and likely to germinate wherever you dig the compost in.

I'm lucky to have inherited a big old house on a huge block out in the sticks so I get to garden to my hearts content. Old gardens are a great source of species we're not allowed to cultivate or possess and the old timers who own them are usually happy to part with cuttings or seeds and stoked that people still show an interest in the gentle art. Our place sported a huge tree datura sprawled over the chookpen fence when we moved in. Stupidly, I didn't take my experimentalism seriously enough back then but quickly learned to do so after dabbling with TD... another story.
There was also a flourish of morning glory climbing through the carcass of a monster rambling rose, self seeding and definitely an original variety rather that the modern hybrids mostly seen today. The list goes on.

 

[losthippy]

We cleared out my grandfathers garden shed when he passed away and inherited his poisons and potions for the garden among which was a small bottle with a skull and crossbones label containing 'tincture of nicotine'. This stuff is seriously terminal for any chewing or sucking insect that ingests it but I couldn't say that it would be available today. Pop grew show-standard ornamentals but I have no idea how often or much he used this product. I'd be careful making a spray or soil drench using raw tobacco or butts as nicotine is non-discriminating and will kill earthworms and other beneficial organisms in the garden. You might also look into the tobacco mosaic virus and have a rethink.

Chili spray is an excellent way to fuck off most chewing and sucking insects though as mentioned care is needed cooking-up and handling the stuff. It isn't readily absorbed through plant tissue but rather remains behind on the surface once the carrier (water) flashes off. It also degrades fairly quickly, but plants don't seem adversely effected if treated 2 or 3 times a week.

 

[losthippy]

Have any west Australian shroomers successfully cultivated subs at home? I've tried a couple of times using fresh spore inoculated into both rice-cake and commercially made mushroom media to zero effect. I'm hort qualified and pretty meticulous but that hasn't helped me to date. I've heard of people physically removing blocks of soil complete with pinning shrooms and mycelium in the substrate and still having no luck kicking them on. Conversely, I also hear about subs regularly popping up in people's backyards and even on the median strip down the main street of a town just south of the most popular picking sites. I now have a decommissioned incubator originally used for prem babies so I'd really like to get some subs on the go once the season gets underway. Any help would be appreciated.

On an HR note I would urge anyone with any questions or doubts about plants they're interested in to research carefully. Most important is a positive ID of the plant and you really should verify your initial results to be sure you've got what you really want. There is a helluva lot involved in the safe handling of some plants and being informed can help you avoid irritation or injury through inadvertent absorption. The sap of some plants can cause dermatitis-like symptoms and the fine trichomes on some leaves can also cause problems, as can pollen if breathed in. Erowid.org is an excellent place to begin and is loaded with useful links. Otherwise, there are general gardening and specialist varieties clubs all over the place who are quite happy to offer advice provided you go about asking in the right way.

On morning glory, only use seed collected from verified plants. Pre-packaged seed is almost always treated for storage and pathogen protection and not recommended for purposes other than poking in the ground. Stay safe.

 

[spacejunk]

^ I'd just stick to P.Cubensis - I've not known anyone to have luck with subs, but cubes are (relatively) easy.

 

[Raw Evil]

I haven't bothered to check the current legal status, but our national plant, as well as hundreds of others are completely banned due to having trace elements of DMT in them. Almost all gardens with an Australian native plant in them are illegal these days. Fuck the government of Australia, fuck the war on drugs which is a war on people (relevant article to this claim http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/3857294.html) and fuck the world.

The whole fucking world needs to be cleansed of the human virus, here's hoping for a comet that Bruce Willis can't save us from.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK at that comment thread? That "gunner" ought to have a psych eval done before he's allowed to spend another day with a human being...

(apologies for off-topic. I couldn't merely scream inside :/ )

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ I haven't heard anything about that legislation and the Garden Freedom website doesn't have anything indicating the legislation actually went through... perhaps there was enough of a response that they decided it was best to let the proposal die?

 

[spacejunk]

^ that is the conclusion i came to as well. it seemed to be discussed and then disappeared. i'm not sure if the minister responsible is still in that portfolio...
on a strictly bureaucratic level, it would be an absolute nightmare to police. on a symbolic level, banning our national emblem is pure insanity.
hopefully sense has prevailed this time around?

 

[Mr Blonde]

^ Here's hoping. A quick round of google searching hasn't turned up much other then the initial discussions and announcements, almost nothing since.