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Hey guys. I'm starting detox today off of suboxone. A little history first. I was in a clinic program and eventually got off of subs and was clean for about 3 months. However I once again started buying them off the street again and have been using them daily for about 4 months. My problem is the mental game and I hope I can find support here through my detox. If anyone has any suggestions or advice they can offer me it would be much appreciated. Thanks all.
 
^^ What age did you start using opiates/opioids, how high of doses were you taking, and for how long did you use them?
 
caseface99 said:
^^ What age did you start using opiates/opioids, how high of doses were you taking, and for how long did you use them?
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I started using regularly at around 17. Mostly morphine. And at my peak use i was taking about 250 mg of mscontin daily just to function normally. Thats went on til about age 20 when I decided to get into a sub clinic. Once I relapsed I was taking 8mgs of sub a day. I'm not sure if I should taper with the 3 8mg strips I have left or cold turkey. Also I should add that I'm starting detox today because I have off work the 5th 6th and 7th. So I figure most of the major w/D's will be on those days so I don't have to worry about work.
 
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I have a year and some change on Suboxone and off other opiates. I recently tried to detox from the Suboxone and I hit day eight and ended up going back to a new doctor to get back on. I have been reading about the using dreams and I had some crazy ones during the brief moments I was able to get to sleep during those eight days. My DOC was IV morphine and I had the most vivid dream about being back in my old house in the bathroom on the john but I couldn't get the shot off. I even felt the guilt I felt when I had relapsed before. I woke up with such a feeling of frustration. It was like I cockblocked myself and felt all the guilt. The frustration turned to relief when I realized it was only a dream.

To fizzoyster....you can do this. Stay strong. PM me if you want some experience, strength, and hope.:)
 
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The dreams are wild. Even months after I was off suboxone I was still having them at least three times a week. That's part of what made me crack and relapse. I will deff pm you for some advice. Thanks for the support.
 
I haven't had dreams that real since I fell asleep with a nicotine patch on. I would routinely forget to take it off at rehab and end up having sleep paralysis dreams. Anyone else get the mad urge to fap when your in acute withdrawal? I seem to get my sex drive back pretty quickly when I lay off opiates. My roommate at the halfway house was a chronic masturbator....but he would cry when he fapped. The other roommate and I had to sit him down for a talk because he would do it multiple times a night and he was pretty loud.
 
Lmao he would cry when fapping eh? Sounds like someonewasmissing somebody
 
I smoked and sniffed dope everyday for 2 months. I found my self not only dating a heroin addict but a heroin dealer. everyday was an exciting adventure, it seemed like anyways. until one night I was with my bf sitting around a fire drinking a beer. meanwhile several large piles of heroin lay atop cd cases inside the house. a van pulled up and 10 or more officers and undercover agents jumped out and cuffed me and my bf. he was taken away that night. and neither one of us have touched dope since that night. unfortunately tragedy has to happen for some to learn.

I started doin oxycodone 10mg in 9th grade about 10 a night . I was put in outpatient when my parents had found powder residue in my room. soon out of rehab I discovered opana 15s and then heroin. I was doin 3 to 4 bags a day for several months at age 17
 
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I don't think anybody has been to this thread in a while...I need help. How do I start a new thread?
 
I don't know how to quit heroin. It's ruining my life and I've been doing all I can to try and get away before it's too late but I just can't...I used every day (IV) for about 9 months and various other opiates for years before that, quit for 3 months last may, but in the past few weeks I've just lost all motivation and I'm on it more often than not. I don't want to fall back into it but I dunno what to do. Even after 3 months there was a gaping hole in my life and a void that couldn't be filled by anything else. It's making me miserable but I'm more miserable when I don't have it. I'm thinking of going back to NA but I'm really not a fan...and I'm scared of going onto maintenance because I don't want to drag things out, but I think I might have to.
If anyone has any suggestions please tell me. I'm scared :(
 
I need help. I live in Pontiac, MI and I was addicted to H, got clean for a while, then back to vics and oxys, now subs. I can't find anymore subs, I'm sick and I HAVE to go to work tomorrow. Is there any way to make myself feel better until I can get some more sub?
 
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If anyone has any suggestions please tell me. I'm scared :(
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I know this post is old, but just for anyone one else coming across this.. I had success with suboxone; in particular a few times early into the program I tried using, but even with quite large doses of heroin, I couldn't feel the hit at all; so long as you make yourself take the suboxone, you won't be able to get high.

That said - you can of course just come off the program and just stop taking your dose, if you struggle like this, you may want to consider trying a naltrexone implant if they have them where you live; they're a lot harder to bypass (although I've known people to literally cut them out) - but I had a friend who kicked the scag this way, I've never tried it myself - apparently it affected his ability to get drunk too.
 
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I need help. I live in Pontiac, MI and I was addicted to H, got clean for a while, then back to vics and oxys, now subs. I can't find anymore subs, I'm sick and I HAVE to go to work tomorrow. Is there any way to make myself feel better until I can get some more sub?
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Codeine is surprisingly effective - it obviously won't get you high, or even make you feel particularly well - but even the moderate doses you safely take without doing a cold-water extraction will be enough to let you get about your day / get some sleep.

A more effective, legal opiate dose may be poppy seed tea.

EDIT: Sorry - I should say with the codeine, it has it's limits - if you're REALLY sick then it probably won't help.. But when I've been using regularly, I've found it to be a miracle on days I couldn't get on - mostly just to get some sleep - or like you, get to work.

What is your situation with sub? Where are you getting it from? Sub withdrawals take a good 2-3 days before they will stop you from being able to go to work.
 
fizzoyster said:
The dreams are wild. Even months after I was off suboxone I was still having them at least three times a week. That's part of what made me crack and relapse. I will deff pm you for some advice. Thanks for the support.
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Dreams of opiates, dreams of suboxone?

I have such frustrating dreams because they're always of stuff I'd never do so I wake up and have that feeling but.. I can't explain it, just +1
 
Greeting and Salutations,

I am what I am embarrassed to call myself a drug addict. Not the typical party using lets go have fun type either. I had a botched surgery a few years again and many since after since how poorly my first surgery went. At first they started to treated me with morphine as their drug of choice for pain after surgeries and what not. Sadly, it was making me for sicking than helping me. Then they decided to use something called Dilauded to treat my pain instead. After a moment of ranting and carrying on it was lights out and I was out for hours didn't even remember where I was. Since then few years now i've been with pain management to manage this chronic pain. I have had many surgeries since the end for 12/2009 until now. For pain I am treated with 8mg of dilaudid and 100 mcg fentanly patch. Not to mention Xanax 2mg for my anxiety. I am in dire straights when I don't have my medicines. I have been told by countless surgeons and doctors that I would have a degree of nausea and pain the rest of my life. without nausea medicine I cannot eat, it also hurts as well. I do not know what to to and in need of some serious help. Any ER I visit tells me to go to see a GI specialist which I have countless times. Numerous of them. This pain and nausea just isn't right. Something is awfully wrong and they need to fix asap. What is it that I can do? I really can't stand living this anyway anymore.. please help
 
uponastar said:
Greeting and Salutations,

I am what I am embarrassed to call myself a drug addict. Not the typical party using lets go have fun type either. I had a botched surgery a few years again and many since after since how poorly my first surgery went. At first they started to treated me with morphine as their drug of choice for pain after surgeries and what not. Sadly, it was making me for sicking than helping me. Then they decided to use something called Dilauded to treat my pain instead. After a moment of ranting and carrying on it was lights out and I was out for hours didn't even remember where I was. Since then few years now i've been with pain management to manage this chronic pain. I have had many surgeries since the end for 12/2009 until now. For pain I am treated with 8mg of dilaudid and 100 mcg fentanly patch. Not to mention Xanax 2mg for my anxiety. I am in dire straights when I don't have my medicines. I have been told by countless surgeons and doctors that I would have a degree of nausea and pain the rest of my life. without nausea medicine I cannot eat, it also hurts as well. I do not know what to to and in need of some serious help. Any ER I visit tells me to go to see a GI specialist which I have countless times. Numerous of them. This pain and nausea just isn't right. Something is awfully wrong and they need to fix asap. What is it that I can do? I really can't stand living this anyway anymore.. please help
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Hi, I don't know where you are located, but is medical marijuana legal where you're at? Would you be willing to consider marijuana, legal or not? It may help you a lot with your nausea/anxiety (it does for me, anyways) and possibly with some of your pain. Otherwise... It is very frustrating that you may be on opioids indefinitely. It seems like a junkie's dream, but it's really not. There are other meds to help with nausea (i.e. promethazine) that you could look into. I put myself down a bad road using "self-prescribed" pain medications to ease my pain. Now I am on suboxone and it does help with my pain but I am not sure that it would be strong enough to help you.

I think you need to put some pressure on these doctors to find out what the real issue is. Til then, I wish you the best of luck, and I'm here if you need someone to talk to...
 
That happens to me and I would go to Dr and get a big ole bottle of Tussinex, which is lots of hydrocodone, time released, which was my relapse looking back now. I'm so screwed now as to a year late from that, I'm now shooting heroin after 4 years clean, until the trip to Dr for the cough medicine. Best be very careful with this.
 
I desperately need advice. Please move this if it's not in the right place. I'm trying to go on subutex maintenance after a 10-13 bag a day heroin habit. I went into precipitated withdrawals after taking the subs too soon and had to shoot thru it with heroin, which is dangerous. I tried again and got 27hours into withdrawal, couldnt stand it anymore, and relapsed on heroin again just now. I have really slow metabolism and am 64 years old. I wanted to go the drug replacement therapy route because I've got clean before and put my heart and soul into NA, but after a few years end up relapsing into another habit worse than before out of social anxiety and horrible loneliness. I'm afraid of methadone maintenance because I'm afraid of not being able to stand the withdrawals. I dont know where to turn and am feeling suicidal, like such a failure for not being able to withdraw long enough to start the subs. I really think these could work for me if I could ever manage to get on them. Help, please! I'm in a fucked up place right now.
 
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