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The GBL Megathread

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TheSpade said:
For anxiety I say no to GBL, no to beta blockers, no benzos but yes to positive thinking. ;)
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For real,
be strong minded,
it is a surprisingly useful trait to acquire,
even aside from negating the possibility of "panic attacks".
 
TheSpade said:
I find the best way to deal with anxiety is just not to even entertain the idea that your anxious. As Treacle wisely pointed out to me a while back, anxiety is all in your head it can't actually hurt you or cause you any physical harm.
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Yeah, thanks for that. 8)

But when you have to deal with customers one on one, whilst having a spazz attack, then you can tell me it's mind over matter.

If it was as easy as all that, we'd all have it under control by now. We all have our own methods of dealing with things, and I find having some G handy, puts my mind at rest. I hardly ever use it in these circumstances, but at least it's there.
 
Sorry for trying to give some helpful advice which worked for me. Won't fuckin bother next time. :|

I wasn't having a go at you for using G, I understand that just knowing it's there can be helpful. The same with benzos, in the past just knowing I could have them if I wanted to was enough to sort me out but you can't rely on them forever so it's good to try and work through the anxiety without any help from drugs.

I'm sure you'ld like to not have to rely on the G so I don't see how there's any harm in trying Treacles advice which worked brilliantly for me.

And sorry but IT IS mind over matter. That's exactly what it is. OK so it's more tricky when in work and dealing with customers but it's still mind over matter. It's not actually real in the sense that you are under no harm, it's all in the mind. You can either let it win or fight it (or more importantly forget about it).
 
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I'm not claiming it's easy. I've had anxiety ranging from pretty bad to mild on and off for years. It got worse again a few months ago randomly and instead of reaching for drugs or letting it win I decided enough was enough. I was inspired by something Treacle said (bet you don't hear that often Treacle ;)) and put it to good use.

If it worked for me I can't see the problem with me passing on this information and other folk trying it.
 
Spade, you can be such a fucking headache at times.

My panic attacks came out of nowhere. One minute I was fine, the next I was a gibbering, shaking mess in front of customers at work. And when customers start commenting on your shaking and palpitations it makes matters even worse.

Nobody understands when have to make your excuses to disappear to the staffroom every five minutes. At least if I knock back 0.5ml of G iI know I'll be relaxed in about 10 mins.
 
What is your problem with what I have said? I'd like to know exactly what's giving you the headache.

I give some good advice that was passed on to me, and it worked. Now what's wrong with me passing it onto others?

Panic attacks always come out of nowhere, that's what happens but at the onset if you calm yourself down and remind yourself that it cannot hurt you and you just relax and breathe it helps and it might just avoid it happening.

Not claiming that taking G doesn't help but it's hardly a long term solution nor something which you will want to rely on for the rest of your life I'm sure. I'm just throwing out some alternative that MIGHT work or you just beyond taking advice?
 
Spade you did try and help and it is good advice but it's advice I'm sure tg knows already, it can just be frustrating when given advice like that as it really isn't easy in practice sometimes.
 
If it was all about breathing, I would have breathed my fucking way to serenity by now.

No matter what you say, you always come off as a condescending twat.
 
It might not be advice she knows already. I didn't really consider that anxiety was just in my head and couldn't hurt me until Treacle mentioned it and I realised he was 100% spot on.

It's not easy to begin with but over time you learn how to put it into use and it soon becomes second nature.

I think it was a good thing that my anxiety came back just before I went half way round the world for a month because that way I had no choice but to confront it and deal with it and beleive me it was a scary as fuck prospect going all that way for a lengthy period of time, long claustrophobic plane journeys etc. I'm already a nervous flyer the thought of having a panic attack on a plane was worrying me sick. But in the end all was fine and it's shown me that I can deal with it if and when it happens again. You've just got to get on with it and stop worrying about the anxiety as that obviously just makes it worse.

No matter what you say, you always come off as a condescending twat.
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Aww sweeet. <3
 
TheSpade said:
It's not easy to begin with but over time you learn how to put it into use and it soon becomes second nature.
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Orly?

So why has my mum's life been ruined by panic attacks for over 30 years, then?.
 
TheSpade said:
Sorry for trying to give some helpful advice which worked for me. Won't fuckin bother next time. :|

I wasn't having a go at you for using G, I understand that just knowing it's there can be helpful. The same with benzos, in the past just knowing I could have them if I wanted to was enough to sort me out but you can't rely on them forever so it's good to try and work through the anxiety without any help from drugs.

I'm sure you'ld like to not have to rely on the G so I don't see how there's any harm in trying Treacles advice which worked brilliantly for me.

And sorry but IT IS mind over matter. That's exactly what it is. OK so it's more tricky when in work and dealing with customers but it's still mind over matter. It's not actually real in the sense that you are under no harm, it's all in the mind. You can either let it win or fight it (or more importantly forget about it).
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You're right nothing physically bad can happen to you from a panic attack. But panic attacks can be so unbearable (as you're probably aware) that most people if not everyone would choose to stop the panic attack if they possibly can. There is normally two ways to do this; either escape the stressful situation (for example, leave your workplace and say you're ill) or take an anxiolytic. For some people, the latter is the best option, because it enables them to keep their jobs. I think in the case of severe panic attacks, mind over matter does not work because you will do almost anything to feel better.

The most important thing is dealing with the underlying causes of your anxiety. I find that if I keep my drink/drug intake under certain levels (particularly alcohol), I don't have nearly as much of a problem with anxiety. Sometimes, of course, I decide the anxiety is worth the binge, but it really depends what I'm going to be doing during the period of time I will have to deal with heightened anxiety levels.
 
Spurs_1882 said:
The most important thing is dealing with the underlying causes of your anxiety. I find that if I keep my drink/drug intake under certain levels (particularly alcohol), I don't have nearly as much of a problem with anxiety. Sometimes, of course, I decide the anxiety is worth the binge, but it really depends what I'm going to be doing during the period of time I will have to deal with heightened anxiety levels.
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This I agree with. Cutting down or stopping drugs helps a whole lot.
 
I did give you that advice, Spade, and of course it should work, in theory, although I still need to take benzos, because thought alone doesn't make it go away. I'm currently awaiting news about doing CBT, which I'm looking forward to.
 
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