The fuck is a bad trip?

[Floating Zebra]

After tripping all these many times, I can safely say, with entire confidence, that your trip is entirely controllable. Its about how strong you allow your mind to be. How the fuck could you allow a fucking drug to take over you, get you scared? Fuck all bain chodh. Its all up to you. It really cracks me up when people write about their scary ass incidents, that they usually just embellish to be so in their heads. Fuck, if youve taken the drug, stick through it. And if you can handle it, your the fucking king of it. Know your dose, redose, fly. Don't be scared of what you don't know, fly with it. As high as it takes you, is as high as you wanna go, and higher. Im trying to get a message through to all those newbies who lock their minds up in unfortunate, unneeded circumstance. Its all up to you bein, trust me. Once you see it, you'll get closer to yourself.

Boom Shankar.

 

[Ismene]

I've never had a bad trip (or the notorious Tim Leary brainfart idea of "ego death") and I've taken doses sufficent to stun a charging rhino.

But I think it does depend on the kind of person you are - some people get worried about all kinds of things when they're sober so they'll probably have the same trouble when tripping.

 

[Bagseed]

you must be a tough guy

 

[Synaptic Gap]

It is possible to see too much...or see things you are not ready to understand yet. Also keep in mind everybody's experience in life is different and some people have really nasty things that have been "psychologically buried" in order to get on with life. Psyches can bring these right out to the forefront of consciousness and force the tripper to deal with it suddenly and he/she may not be ready to do so

 

[Floating Zebra]

Exactly what im saying. The thing about acid/shrooms that stuns people, is the fact that theyre not able to let go completely and go wherever the drug takes them. Keep going, youre never high enough.

 

[cannibalsnail]

No ones immune. Take enough in the wrong setting and it will happen. There's damn near nobody whos been tripping for a long time without a bad (or difficult) experience.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Guess what, the psychological and physical reactions to a given stimulus vary between humans. Which is to say, your life experiences aren't more correct or valid than other people's.

 

[pofacedhoe]

trip often enough and one will go wrong its the law of averages. i've had bad experiences and good ones, thing is i could handle it but that didn't mean it wasn't negative and in one instance felt like i was being electrocuted over and over and over (really unpleasant mushroom trip). the best thing to counteract a bad trip in my experience without fail is opiates. they make every trip easier to handle and visually far more purely beautiful as opposed to weird and bizarre. much more effective than attempting to shut the trip down with benzo's or alcohol. as opiates get rid of pain, the pain of a bad trip that is losing its way can benefit from a really weak poppy tea if necessary.

if you keep the dose of poppy tea very low it should help. especially a bad trip brought on by alcohol wearing off mid trip- this almost guarantees a bad trip for me.

i never used to be into opiates years back but i find i can dip in and out of poppy tea and as long as i taper i dont really notice a withdrawl. i always keep my doses very conservative and mild as i dont enjoy being intoxicated on opiates, i merely enjoy them functionally

 

[webbykevin]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when the mushroom eventually rips the OPs ego to shreds and nails him to the floor as he cowers in the fetal position chewing on a comfort blanket crying for his mamma.

 

[yagecero]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when the mushroom eventually rips the OPs ego to shreds and nails him to the floor as he cowers in the fetal position chewing on a comfort blanket crying for his mamma.

Heh!

 

[Redbong]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when the mushroom eventually rips the OPs ego to shreds and nails him to the floor as he cowers in the fetal position chewing on a comfort blanket crying for his mamma.

The mighty mushroom. It's always that weird, banzai tree looking, fat bastard that gets you.

I've never had a "bad" trip. I have had multiple difficult experiences. Set and setting are one of the most important factors. I believe setting being the most important. Most of my difficult experiences were setting related. Beyond that, just remember, it's all in your head.

 

[Synaptic Gap]

trip often enough and one will go wrong its the law of averages. i've had bad experiences and good ones, thing is i could handle it but that didn't mean it wasn't negative and in one instance felt like i was being electrocuted over and over and over (really unpleasant mushroom trip). the best thing to counteract a bad trip in my experience without fail is opiates. they make every trip easier to handle and visually far more purely beautiful as opposed to weird and bizarre. much more effective than attempting to shut the trip down with benzo's or alcohol. as opiates get rid of pain, the pain of a bad trip that is losing its way can benefit from a really weak poppy tea if necessary.

if you keep the dose of poppy tea very low it should help. especially a bad trip brought on by alcohol wearing off mid trip- this almost guarantees a bad trip for me.

i never used to be into opiates years back but i find i can dip in and out of poppy tea and as long as i taper i dont really notice a withdrawl. i always keep my doses very conservative and mild as i dont enjoy being intoxicated on opiates, i merely enjoy them functionally

i find the best use of opiates is on the comedown from a trip....pure euphoria

 

[Synaptic Gap]

I'd love to be a fly on the wall when the mushroom eventually rips the OPs ego to shreds and nails him to the floor as he cowers in the fetal position chewing on a comfort blanket crying for his mamma.

his ego in the wrong setting on a heroic dose....disaster waiting to happen

 

[any major dude]

you must be a tough guy

LOL
If anyone truly believes a bad trip is impossible, snort a bunch of 4-AcO-DMT whilst coming down off 1g+ of mephedrone

 

[Ismene]

trip often enough and one will go wrong its the law of averages.

That's like saying "Go out for a drink often enough and you'll become an alcoholic".

Some people become alcoholics and some don't.

 

[Clocktower]

I've taken LSD almost a dozen times, never had a bad trip. I've also flown in airplanes several dozen times, both small ones and commercial jets. But I've never been in a plane crash, so I know those don't happen either.

 

[webbykevin]

That's like saying "Go out for a drink often enough and you'll become an alcoholic".

Some people become alcoholics and some don't.

it's not like saying that at all, it's like saying get blind drunk often enough and eventually you will end up throwing up or with a shocking hangover, addiction wasn't mentioned anywhere and is not the topic being discussed.

 

[Cycik]

After taking a g of mescaline each with a friend and him having a physciotic episode. Tripping hasn't exactly been the same for me. I know what you are saying OP, after my mate claiming he was dying and all, he got rushed to the hospital and I managed to keep thinking positive, went to a friends place and enjoyed the rest of the trip. Had and still kind of have some PTSD from that trip though(MDMA helps a lot). Seeing blood coming out of your friends eyes,nose and mouth every time he says he is dying is not a pleasant site and eventually led to believe he's gonna die and no one told me he was gonna be okay, didn't help either. Live and learn.

I've never had a bad trip but I do get caught in thought loops and anxiety which annoy the fuck out of me.

 

[wayab]

i have a friend who always made fun of me always reminding the importance of set&setting and stuff like this saying he never had a bad trip and seemed imposible, untill one day he got totaly psycho on us while on lsa wanting to kill us and shit

 

[kingme]

i dont really see a point to this thread.
im happy that the OP has had a good run of trips and seems unable to have a bad trip. i also know from experience that some trips are more difficult than others (and i tripped enough, and consider myself strong willed), and there are many reports of various people on "bad trips", so they cant really be denied either. soo... what should we learn? that its all in the head? that if i have a bad trip tis only because of my own fault? isnt that, like, set and setting 101, know the drug and dose and only do it in comfort?

im just saying, i think the op had a nice thought of advice in his mind, but the message might not have come out right.

cheers!