Election 2020 The Final Countdown v. Nov. 3rd

[birdup.snaildown]

don't give me democrats bad etc etc

democrats bad etc etc

Those spikes on those graphs are indicative of something amiss. They're not there by accident.

I don't take it for granted that is real until I see it for myself from an unbiased source which is almost impossible. I don't believe the MSM. I don't believe Trump and I don't believe Biden.

 

[JessFR]

democrats bad etc etc



I don't take it for granted that is real until I see it for myself from an unbiased source which is almost impossible. I don't believe the MSM. I don't believe Trump and I don't believe Biden.

Why does it say I said what dalpat said?
Your quote-Foo needs work.

Ultimately how conceivable massive fraud is is irrelevant. All that matters is what you can prove. And they haven't been able to prove anything in court.

And I trust that dozens of republican judges found no evidence more than the questionable maths of youtube trump fanatics.

 

[JessFR]

Oh and frankly, I just don't buy that democrats are competent enough to rig the election in such a widespread way and not get caught. With real evidence I mean. You know, the kind that wins court cases, not youtube likes.

 

[birdup.snaildown]

Yeah well we all know democrats are pretty fucking useless.

Fact check: Vote spikes in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania do not prove election fraud

Social media users have been sharing posts claiming that during the night of Nov. 3 to Nov. 4 there were vote dumps of hundreds of thousands of mail-in ballots only for Democrat Joe Biden in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, suggesting this proves voter fraud allegations...

www.reuters.com

Good enough for me.

 

[alasdairm]

that's obviously fake news.

such a pathetic response, isn't it?

alasdair

 

[JessFR]

Let’s not derail the thread, please.

There's something funny about derailing a thread on bluelight with drug talk. :D

Yeah yeah I know, I apologize. It just seemed like a good opportunity to do some non-political bonding in the otherwise relatively hostile environment of political discussion.

 

[JessFR]

There's a certain amusing, while at the same time frightening, irony in the above statement let's face it. And one I'm sure I don't have to explain (do I?).

Ok ima use the excuse that I just took a lot of methadone and am half unconscious, but I think maybe you need to explain it. Cause I don't get it. Maybe it's something that makes more sense in a trump supporters mind.

Cause yea, I don't see how it's ironic that I think democrats are too incompetent to rig the election.

plzexplainhugskthx.

 

[birdup.snaildown]

I think he's still living in that fantasy world where they rigged the election and have been caught?

Got a little over a week to prove it in court before the EC vote.

 

[JessFR]

I think he's still living in that fantasy world where they rigged the election and have been caught?

Got a little over a week to prove it in court before the EC vote.

That's gonna be hard. A week is not a long time to prove fraud.

That there was no massive fraud is gonna make it harder too.

 

[JessFR]

Ah.

Well they're not competent enough to run a country let's not kid ourselves.

It's just that the alternative is so much worse.

 

[mal3volent]

I would have thought rigging the election was the easy part!

Do you have any idea how many moving parts there are in a federal election in a country the size of the United States? Our country has over 5.5x the population of your country. 50 states, 435 congressional districts, 3000 counties.

 

[alasdairm]

'The people have spoken': Michigan judge rejects lawsuit from disavowed Trump attorney

"A Michigan federal judge has ruled against a sweeping legal bid to overturn election results in the state, determining the lawsuit brought by an ally of President Donald Trump was riddled with "theories, conjecture and speculation" but little evidence of wrongdoing.

U.S. District Judge Linda V. Parker ruled against a request from Sidney Powell — an attorney disavowed by the Trump campaign who still champions its causes — to force the state to award its electoral votes to Trump despite President-elect Joe Biden winning the state.
...
"Plaintiffs ask this Court to ignore the orderly statutory scheme established to challenge elections and to ignore the will of millions of voters. This the Court cannot, and will not, do. The people have spoken."
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The Trump campaign and its affiliates have lost or withdrawn essentially every lawsuit filed across the country related to alleged election fraud. In Michigan, the Trump campaign filed a lawsuit with more than 100 affidavits alleging misconduct, but withdrew the suit before a judge could rule. As of last week, the office of Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said no one from the campaign had provided any evidence of illegal conduct.
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On Dec. 14, the 16 Michigan delegates to the Electoral College will meet and cast their votes for Biden. He will assume the presidency in January." (my emphasis)

alasdair

 

[birdup.snaildown]

They cannot ALL be lying or inaccurate SURELY not.

y?

 

[birdup.snaildown]

A Youtube channel isn't news though, so it doesn't have to live up to any standard (no matter how low) of truth-telling. People can literally post anything they want to.

The reason there are two opposite narratives being told re: voter fraud is probably because the right is massively exaggerating the fraud while the left is saying it doesn't exist. The truth is probably closer to the left wing media's version of events in this case... since there is still no evidence.

If you look into all of the allegations from Trump & co they have pretty reasonable explanations, including the voter spikes.

 

[JessFR]

They cannot ALL be lying or inaccurate SURELY not.

They can all be factually wrong yes.

This is how they get you, they drown you in bad evidence until you assume it's true by the sheer quantity rather than the quality.

Every conspiracy theory, every scam, it's a classic form of manipulation.

 

[birdup.snaildown]

why bother reporting stuff (both sides) that's untrue.

ratings?

 

[JessFR]

Nah. I really don't know anymore. Could be. All I know is that I'm too old for this shit.

And it's not just there. I'm seeing the exact same thing play out with our own national media (albeit that they've not gotten totally outrageous) (not yet anyway).

I see the EU is starting to take a very dim view of FaceBook et al. Also just as toxic (if not worse) than the mainstream media and YouTube.

Personal opinion (and why did I just get the feeling of déjà vu crawling all over me): this free speech shit is getting out of hand. Well I don't know if that's what the problem is but seems to me anybody can broadcast anything they like and without fact checking anything or stating opinion as fact. It is OUT OF HAND!

Oh well. I think I'll just stick to watching the sports inserts on Al Jazeera (not a sports person at all i.e. just so happens that THE most beautiful American woman is indeed one of the journalists and presenters there from time to time! )! Flipping over to RT for the rest of the time! At least on RT I get to see/hear what I WANT to see/hear (no matter the reality)! If nothing else they don't constantly flip-flop.

If Trump is inaugurated in January: just let me know is all! (y)

Rant for the day over!

He won't be. Trump will leave and be such a bad loser he will probably try and attention grab during Bidens inauguration cause he's just that pathetic.

Also I feel too old for this shit too, let's abandon politics and run away!

 

[birdup.snaildown]

let's abandon politics and run away

As soon as Biden is inaugurated, I'm done with US politics for 4 years. Trump was interesting. He was like a bizarre experiment. Biden is just another typical lying politician. Not to imply that Trump doesn't lie, but there was something different about his lies. He didn't lie in order to get votes. He didn't say what people wanted him to say. In fact, he seemed to do the complete opposite... I'm going to miss the crazy orange bastard, but (at the same time) I'm sort of glad he didn't win the election. It will be nice to have a holiday from all this and I won't have to worry about offending everyone all the time by saying Trump isn't the devil.

he will probably try and attention grab during Bidens inauguration cause he's just that pathetic.

Agreed, but if he's not president I don't care. I didn't care about him when he was on The Apprentice. I'm not going to care about him when he leaves the white house. Honestly, I think lots of republicans (and other pro-Trump people) will lose interest too.

He was a fascinating president. Probably the most interesting and divisive person who has ever called the white house home... but he's not a fascinating real estate mogul.

I've already lost a lot of interest in what he has to say.

Looking forward to returning for Trump 2024 after his hiatus.

 

[JessFR]

As soon as Biden is inaugurated, I'm done with US politics for 4 years. Trump was interesting. He was like a bizarre experiment. Biden is just another typical lying politician. Not to imply that Trump doesn't lie, but there was something different about his lies. He didn't lie in order to get votes. He didn't say what people wanted him to say. In fact, he seemed to do the complete opposite...

Oh really? Sure seemed like it when Trump was suddenly a lot more subdued in his second debate than the first.

Almost like his behavior in the first didn't politically help him so he adjusted it...

 

[Jabberwocky]

It's retarded for any right winger to still ride on the Trump train.
Populism doesn't last. He was sure 4 year call and he was the best bet American right had. His policies, like deregulation, tax cuts and many others were good for the right wingers.
Now that he's pushing extremely big stimulus packages? You guys think that right wingers are going to stand behind him after that?
Any educated right winger belongs to the Chicago school of Economic thought and there's this thing called permanent income hypothesis and it debunks the entire idea of stimulus packages.
He has done his job for the right, he is useless now. He has gone full retard and anyone backing him up has done so too.
Trumpism isn't a political ideology which has the deeds to last. It can last for a while and it may have been fun while it lasted, but now it's over and it's better to get used to it.
American conservatism has to return to it's roots now, unless these guys find new Ronald Reagan.