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Election 2020 The Final Countdown v. Nov. 3rd

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Anonymous Dissident said:
The lead Biden has in AZ is starting to shrink with the latest batch of votes coming in. He still looks to win it, but if the trajectory of the last group of votes continues, there could literally be a tie between trump and Biden.

To make things even more interesting, theres now MAGA morons, many unmasked, protesting outside of the Maricopa county county elections department in Phoenix, claimingthat the election went to Trump and is currently being stolen. Theres sheriff's in bulletproof vests blocking the MAGAts from getting into the building. Live video on MSNBC. Ironically, they were chanting "Fox News Sucks".
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No, you are incorrect.

538 total electoral votes.

Someone has to hit 270; and that leaves 268.

With faithless electors there could be a tie, however.
 
Google says Biden has 264. Almost there. Trump having such a fit on twitter they blocked half his shit.

Crazy the market is still pumping. 3 days now. Tomorrow the dump will come. Even with all that power nobody wants trump but hillbillies and fools.
 
Captain.Heroin said:
No, you are incorrect.

538 total electoral votes.

Someone has to hit 270; and that leaves 268.

With faithless electors there could be a tie, however.
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I'm referring to a popular vote tie in particular, not an electoral college vote tie. I should have been more clear I guess.

I still can't believe that Biden could be 3.5 million votes ahead and fucking lose. I really hate the electoral college system.
 
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Anonymous Dissident said:
The lead Biden has in AZ is starting to shrink with the latest batch of votes coming in. He still looks to win it, but if the trajectory of the last group of votes continues, there could literally be a tie between trump and Biden.

To make things even more interesting, theres now MAGA morons, many unmasked, protesting outside of the Maricopa county county elections department in Phoenix, claimingthat the election went to Trump and is currently being stolen. Theres sheriff's in bulletproof vests blocking the MAGAts from getting into the building. Live video on MSNBC. Ironically, they were chanting "Fox News Sucks".
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They are butthurt that Fox is choosing to be fair & balanced and display the facts rather than catering to alt right propaganda. I can guarantee some will try something stupid and get roughed up by the police.
 
Tbh. I still think Trump will win.

It's probably just me being a pessimist, but the world is far too unjust and God too much of an asshole and 2020 too suck of a year to have that happen.

I suspect what will actually happen is more of a sick joke where it appears Biden has won but Trump still winds up back in the white house. That's much more in line with my experience.

Disclaimer: I don't believe in the abrahamic God, when I say God I'm talking about a kind of philosophical/spiritual God that represents trends and apparent intents in the universe as a whole.
 
Penn looks increasingly like it's going to flip, as does Georgia. It's frustrating how slowly you guys count votes and how long you allow for them to be delivered. All votes (postal, proxy, in person) must be delivered by 10pm voting day over here, and final results (including any recounts) are expected within a few hours.
 
BellaJewel said:
I don’t think anyone actually buys into this voter fraud assertion.
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Analysis: Seven Milwaukee wards report more 2020 presidential votes than registered voters; Biden nets 146K votes in city

By Milwaukee City Wire News Service
Nov 4, 2020

Seven City of Milwaukee voting wards reported more 2020 U.S. Presidential election votes than they had registered voters, according to an analysis of results and Secretary of State files.

Five of them are in the city’s eleventh aldermanic ward, on the city’s far Southwest Side.

Vice President Joe Biden carried the five in 2020 with 3,768 votes to President Donald Trump’s 2,883— a margin of 885, or eight times what it was in 2016, when Trump earned 1,904 votes to Hillary Clinton’s 2,012.

The City of Milwaukee reported record turnout of 84 percent Tuesday; 243,144 of 288,833 registered city voters cast a ballot.

Biden defeated Trump in Milwaukee 195,034 to 48,110, a margin of 145,916. He won 80 percent of the city’s total vote.

Of the city’s 327 voting wards, 90 reported turnout of greater than 90 percent; 201 reported turnout higher than 80 percent.

In 2016, city voter turnout was 75 percent.

588 to 10

Biden ran up gaudy margins in many Milwaukee voting wards.

He won 588 votes to Trump’s 10 in the 107th voting ward, located in the city’s Franklin Heights neighborhood. It’s other two voting wards voted 411 to 14 and 968 to 33 for Biden-- a grand total of 1,967 to 57.

In the 114th voting district in Lindsay Heights, on the city’s near Northwest Side, Biden defeated Trump 334-6. In the 117th, in Borchert Field, Biden won 465-9.

Trump received 15 or fewer votes in 16 Milwaukee voting wards including a total 7,389 registered voters. Biden defeated him 5,217 to 151 in them.

Trump won nine of 327 Milwaukee voting wards in his inaugural presidential run. Clinton won the other 318.

Trump won only four Milwaukee voting wards in 2020 to Biden’s 323.
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In Atlanta, per veritas (known right wing source, but they video actual people not actors):

"James O’Keefe Strikes Again — Michigan USPS Whistleblower Details Directive To Back-Date Mail-In Ballots, Nov 3"




In Detroit,

 
CFC said:
Penn looks increasingly like it's going to flip, as does Georgia. It's frustrating how slowly you guys count votes and how long you allow for them to be delivered. All votes (postal, proxy, in person) must be delivered by 10pm voting day over here, and final results (including any recounts) are expected within a few hours.
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If you look a little more carefully, the biggest delays are in large Democrat run cities suspected of fraud. Philadelphia, PA won't let the sheriff or any Republican observers see the ballot counting. Why should a sheriff, entrusted to enforce the law, be blocked? Why should any 'observer' be blocked? Atlanta reports a broken pipe in the room where the ballots where kept....who keeps ballots in a room with pipes when we've had 'pipes burst' somewhere every election :|

I agree, having been doing this for 250y you would expect we've gotten the process somewhat sorted and should be more consistent across states, more timely in collecting and counting, and more transparent in avoiding accusations of fraud. Unfortunately, we have not. Voting methods and tools are still under state control, so state-to-state the methods and rules (timing, requirements, etc) vary.
 
Deru said:
There was never a 0.0000000000001% chance Milwaukee was voting Republican.
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This is on par with CH's comment earlier that fraud doesn't matter if the state was going to go one way anyway. Why hold the elections at all? What about every vote counts? And, no, I don't mean every vote you can count is valid :\ as seen by a vote by someone dead 35years, as seen by MORE votes than citizens in an area. If it happens where the vote was never going one way....how about it happening in states that are tight as hell right now?
 
TheLoveBandit said:
What about every vote counts? And, no, I don't mean every vote you can count is valid
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It sounds nice, but anything on a large scale is always going to be about controls at achieving ideal and mitigation of risk versus ever having a chance at perfection.

TheLoveBandit said:
how about it happening in states that are tight as hell right now?
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It's a valid point. I would counter that just because a spotlight is being shown on it now, doesn't mean it hasn't always been happening, and every single election could be argued similarly.
 
TheLoveBandit said:
I agree, having been doing this for 250y you would expect we've gotten the process somewhat sorted and should be more consistent across states,
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Uhh, just to clarify. We have NOT been doing public elections for 250 years. The practice of having the public vote for their presidential electors publicly happened gradually on a state by state basis mostly over the early 19th century.

In terms of how it works today its a bit more like 180-200 years.

I bring this up because it frustrates me a little how the system isn't designed or set up at all for how it's currently used, yet people have a habit of acting like it's all the intent of the founders.
 
Oh and as for this poll observer crap.

A quick Google of Pennsylvania voting rules and procedures reveals that parties most certainly can have an independent poll watcher.

There are very good reasons why you can't just show up and be like "I wanna be a poll watcher" in the day. And why law enforcement isn't allowed to do that without court order.

It's to prevent voter intimidation. Something trump has repeatedly been openly attempting.

I would bet that what may be actually happening is the Republicans are deliberately trying to watch the polls in a way other than what the rules allow specifically so they can then bitch and cast doubt.

Basically more attempts to undermine America's democratic systems.

Fact is there is NO good evidence of systemic voter fraud of the kind that could swing the result. There never has been. It's just more pathetic attempts are destroying trust in America's systems by people who so often claim to be patriots.
 
This election isn't gonna hold. 6 states have fraudulent votes proven already. Michigan, WI, Ohio, Arizona...

There is more votes than there are registered voters. Biden stole the election.
 
OpiateKiller said:
This election isn't gonna hold. 6 states have fraudulent votes proven already. Michigan, WI, Ohio, Arizona...

There is more votes than there are registered voters. Biden stole the election.
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Biden isn't the one who just declared himself winner on his own intuitive on the night of the election.

Where's your proof of this voter fraud? And I want proof, if all you've got is suspicions and innuendo don't bother replying.

I also won't accept proof in the form of it just being claimed without evidence by trump voters.

I can't find any evidence of there being more votes than registered voters.

But then we all knew trump voters were pathetically poor losers and conspiracy theorists. Much like their leader. :p
 
JessFR said:
Oh and as for this poll observer crap.

A quick Google of Pennsylvania voting rules and procedures reveals that parties most certainly can have an independent poll watcher.

There are very good reasons why you can't just show up and be like "I wanna be a poll watcher" in the day. And why law enforcement isn't allowed to do that without court order.

It's to prevent voter intimidation. Something trump has repeatedly been openly attempting.

I would bet that what may be actually happening is the Republicans are deliberately trying to watch the polls in a way other than what the rules allow specifically so they can then bitch and cast doubt.

Basically more attempts to undermine America's democratic systems.

Fact is there is NO good evidence of systemic voter fraud of the kind that could swing the result. There never has been. It's just more pathetic attempts are destroying trust in America's systems by people who so often claim to be patriots.
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Exactly my thoughts the people who shout democracy and wrap themselves in the flag are the ones ready to drop all that so their man wins.
 
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