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The Ferguson thread / additional race discussion

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What 23 said:
What NEEDS to happen is an end to the drug war. No other thing has caused such a divide. Cops shouldn't be the enemy. And neither should people.
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Yeah because police relations with black communities were just fine and dandy before the drug war 8)

You people have absolutely zero historical perspective. You in particular seem to think this is all about this one incident - it's not - it runs much, much deeper and is indicative over a FAR greater divide in American society than the drug war, which is arguably only symptomatic of this much, much larger divide.
 
legalizeall said:
Thats a pretty fucked up statement right there. Wishing ill on people. Dont know if you mean the people here or just americans in general, but thats got some serious venom behind it. Why, have you been fucked over by an american? If so, i can understand that better but if its just based on your flimsy beliefs on what you think its like here then, wow, thats amazing.
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Yet where were you when your little buddy LulWut23 was explicitly expressing his desire to have me murdered? Such high minded moral consistency. No wonder people here take you so seriously!
 
nuttynutskin said:
The officer(s) fire six, deliberate, aimed shots at a steady cadence, and Powell falls to the ground, rolling towards the officers. Three more shots are fired as Powell is on the ground, rolling towards the closest officer. Powell moves both his arms and seems to be attempting to sit up as the nearest officer covers him.

Powell is just three feet away from the officer. After a few seconds, he stops moving. The nearest officer appears to pluck something from the ground—Powell’s knife?—and tosses it several feet away before rolling Powell over to handcuff him.
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I want to start out by saying that obviously Powell was acting in a manner that was very threatening to these Police, I would question why two Police officers who were attending a scene that the call was there's a crazy guy with a knife couldn't have tazers, batons and pepper spray ready. It doesn't say much about the United States Police defense training if two Police officers with multiple non lethal weapons at their disposal couldn't take down one guy with a knife without using lethal force, especially considering in most of the rest of the Western world this is exactly what they would have done.

Some people might question why they should take the risk, and I suppose that is a fair enough point of view, I would argue that Police took an oath to protect and serve and sometimes it is in their job description to risk their lives to try and save a life, even if that life might not be worth saving to a lot of people. I would be willing to bet that Mr Powell was mentally ill, and while that does not excuse his actions, I still think it is unfortunate this man is now dead.

What I really, really, really cannot fathom, however, is how it could be described as neccessary or fair to fire three shots into a man who is laying in the ground having been just been shot six times. I don't give a fuck if he was rolling toward an officer or attempting to sit up, at this point he was a threat to absolutely nobody. Even if one were to argue that further force was necessary, it would be impossible to argue the Police could not have effectively employed non lethal weapons at the time he was on the floor with six bullets in his body.

I think this paints a picture of the attitude of the Police in the United States, and that is basically, fuck with us and you are dead. The article posted by bit_pattern on page 12 of this thread paints a similar picture.
 
^ absolutely.
And the fact that people on a drug HR forum are defending these brutal police actions is depressing to say the very least.
 
spacejunk said:
I totally agree.
Fight fire with fire.
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As if they have a chance against first the militarized police force then national guard then army. Right. The only thing they'd succeed in doing is to destroy their own communities. Real smart.

Bit pattern I know it goes back further but you can't deny that the war on drugs has perpetuated things, and caused a lot more damage. Its ending would be a definite plus.

Since you seem to know so much about how things aren't supposed to be, can you lay something out about how it is supposed to be? How are we supposed to fix things?
 
As for thinking this about about one incident, me "in particular", I know its not, and I'm not sure where you got that.
 
What 23 said:
As if they have a chance against first the militarized police force then national guard then army. Right. The only thing they'd succeed in doing is to destroy their own communities. Real smart.
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You miss the point if this entirely.
 
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What 23 said:
As if they have a chance against first the militarized police force then national guard then army. Right. The only thing they'd succeed in doing is to destroy their own communities. Real smart.

Bit pattern I know it goes back further but you can't deny that the war on drugs has perpetuated things, and caused a lot more damage. Its ending would be a definite plus.

Since you seem to know so much about how things aren't supposed to be, can you lay something out about how it is supposed to be? How are we supposed to fix things?
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The drug war is only a symptom of the problem and is a part of the class war. As for say fighting the police i think the Ukraine showed that violent protest is still a effective form of protest and their police forces and army would shoot to kill alot more often then the US. So why not in a place like America where it's easy to get guns send a few uniforms home in body bags? If say a small group of people took it upon themselves to kill cops and anyone even thinking about recruiting to be one id bet alot less would sign up. They are bullies and like all bullies they like easy targets. Someone shooting at you is not a easy target.
 
Eliminating the symptom of chronic inflammation made my chronic, sometimes 6 month long ear infections go away completely. But I still have allergies and can't drink milk or it will come back.

I don't believe sending police home in body bags is going to really solve anything. I don't think its going to have your desired effect.

The sickness might always be there, or for a long long long time, but there might be things that can be done to keep the most harmful symptoms from destroying us. What you propose isn't necessary, and I believe it would be counter productive.
 
What 23 said:
Then enlighten me.
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Well..
A. the fact that you have such a militarised police force targeting civilian protestors- and that seems ok with you - would appear to go against this American delusion that -
B. the absence of gun control is argued against on the basis of "we need guns to protect us from government tyranny"
C. So as we now have a clear-cut case of Goverment abuse of force/police brutality (even if you believe the initial slaying of an unarmed civilian was justified, we then witness the implementation of a curfew and martial law, backed up by military-equipped "police" - it would (if the whole "we legally need guns to protect us from the government" excuse isn't just bullshit) be prudent for the nation's gun nuts to put their money where their mouths are, and put up some resistance in solidarity for their brothers in Ferguson.
From an outsider's perspective, this situation makes a mockery of both the US's gun laws, and the cowardice and lack of principles of those who so vocally declare them to be essential for your "robust democracy".

It's laughable. The only people US civilians kill with their firearms are your fellow countrymen - and yourselves.

Do you get what I'm saying?

paranoid android said:
If say a small group of people took it upon themselves to kill cops and anyone even thinking about recruiting to be one id bet alot less would sign up. They are bullies and like all bullies they like easy targets. Someone shooting at you is not a easy target.
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Exactly. If you're going to have a proliferation of guns in your society, put them to good use.
Ie -
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And FWIW LulWut, your gut bacteria ecology is likely fucked. The latest evidence is pointing to the fact that inflammation disorders are caused by a depletion of bacteria that probably began at a very young age (you weren't a C-section baby, were you?). Basically, the micro-fauna in your digestive system cause very minor inflammation that trains the immune-system not to go into overdrive, when we take antibiotics or eat shitty diets then the body develops an over the top immune response that results in inflammation. Although it is far from proven, there are links emerging between the bacteria-immune response nexus and a whole swathe of modern disease epidemics such as relatively minor concerns like IBS right up to the humdingers like MS and Parkinsons - there is even good reason to believe that it impacts brain function in disorders such as depression and other mental health problems

http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/4067184.htm

If you maintain a diet of whole foods and natural fibre you can probably do a lot towards restoring a healthy system.

Not that any of that, your original over-cooked metaphor included, has SFA to do with police in America.
 
He asked to be enlightened, so I thought spelling out what has been said dozens of times in this thread just may make him see the the light.

But jokes aside, you're absolutely right.
 
Part 2:

http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/4070977.htm

Professor Katherine Samaras
When we eat processed foods, it generates a whole lot of bacteria in our body that promotes inflammation, and these are the bad bacteria.

NARRATION
But the good news is give up the junk food and the inflammation reaction is turned down.

Professor Katherine Samaras
People who are lean and eat unprocessed food regularly have got all the good bacteria in their intestines.
 
No doubt it is fucked. I've tried for years to get back into balance but it has been an uphill battle.

spacejunk I have to disagree. I don't think this here is worth gunning down cops over, or risking my life or my family's life for. There are better ways.
 
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