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The Fear

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shwagg

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I would like to discuss 'The Fear'. If you've taken psychedelics you probably have something to contribute.
 
Could you expand abit on what "The Fear" is to you.

Are you scared of even doing psychedelics or have you done them and have moments of intense fear while you are having the experience ?

Sometimes a little bit of fear can be a good thing and you get to discover your real courage in these situations, I have found many times that once you get over the fear and throw yourself into the abyss you end up landing in a feather bed not a black hole, it's like bungee jumping, you have to make the decision and jump.
 
To me the fear is a place i have never been, and never want to go to. It is when I feel everything turn completely chaotic, not in a good way. Everytime the fear comes I put my whole-self into fighting it off, like it is evil.
The most recent embodiment of the fear for me was in Boston on NYE. At around two in the morning my friends and I went to the harbor, no one was there, it was beautiful. I looked out over the water, the city was amazing, until I noticed the buoys. They began to change into floating corpses, and the water to blood. I knew what was happening, and went through a mental battle with the fear.
It was short-lived, but intense, after I laid down on a wall that over looked the harbor and watched the lights glimmer over the water, and felt very at ease.
 
It sounds like some meditation techniques would help you through this, mindfulness, being the witness of your thoughts and not following them or trying to fight them off but just letting them float by, sounds easy I know and it does require a bit of practice but somehow there is a space where you can just sit back and watch your emotions, your feelings, your thoughts, your imagination and just let them run, like passing clouds or random noises.

Everything flows, all is passing, nothing lasts, fighting fear and resisting looking at it can be worse than just letting it happen, if you are in a safe environment and setting and can just find a way to step back and observe then it seems that an immense space starts to open up around you and you don't feel compelled to react to these things but just watch with interest.
 
I have never seen the fear. The most disturbing feelings happen to me when I realize what I've done and the effects of said actions, as well as where my life was going.
 
That is relevant to what I'm talking about, the fear is different for everyone.
 
I get a wave of fear EVERY time i dose now. After a terrible trip it got way worse. I get post trip anxiety and anxiety on comeups. But i have now come back from a break after that and have started taking small doses and working my way up to a comftorable spot. I always end up feeling like i could of took more though too.


After you let go of the fear its amazing but i know that fear can keep people trapped into a state of mind that isnt healthy for a psychedelic experience.
 
i get the fear when i throw myself into a manic state with too high of a dose. It happens, mostly anxiety and paranoia. I use simple techniques like taking benzos/opiates to calm myself down lol or better yet it really helps to slow your breathing down and clear your mind and to assure yourself that you've tripped hard before and were fine and push any negative thoughts out and ignore them for the time being at least.

or if i'm in a bad setting; for example being at a bar on 2c-e and smoking a joint outside right before a group of cops come in to eat, nothing happened but i was in a bad state of mind until i left. I avoid these situations while tripping now, the paranoia just isn't worth it.
 
the fear was always there, you are carrying all your fears with you at all times, but it is not mentally conscious

all psychedelics do is magnify what's already there and dig up the subconscious ...

take great care with setting, too
 
Ah the fear i think is the realization of something that has happened or something that is happening you cant quite seem to overcome that flood of emotion due to the overwhelming experience you are currently undertaking. This fear i refer to is whilst being on Lsd, i honestly have done a lot of scary stuff in my time but nothing comes close to the "fear" on an acid trip, words cant describe the seconds/minutes you are stuck in this realm.
 
JWH-018 has brought me to "The Fear" realm more than any other compound. It was one of the most beneficial trips I had.

Nothing like facing the Ultimate Fear. Extremely therapeutic.
 
For me its a deep thought loop of pure dread/anxiety/oblivion/the end is near/what have i done/goodbye
 
For a moment I thought you are talking about the Mother of all Fears - The Void. Have one glance at the Abyss and you may consider earthly gore comforting thereafter.
 
Eliphaz said:
For a moment I thought you are talking about the Mother of all Fears - The Void.
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Haha indeed. Never have i felt a more primal feeling of pure fear.

"Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you." - Nietzsche.
 
One of the things I've liked about 2ct2 and LSD is that I experience The Fear on the way up and resolve it while peaking. Many other psychs I find go the opposite route.
 
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