Movemauser
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Although not to be used as much or often as meph was by many!
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Although not to be used as much or often as meph was by many!
Movemauser
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Without wanting to be too neg, it'll live longer than me if I snort it any more. Just blew a huge lump of something bloody and snotty - but slightly hard as well - out of my left nostril. Piece of septum/sinus? Perhaps the last remaining piece of my brain - that's the end of that then! I'll be sublingual from now on. That is: until this is gone, then I'm done with rcs, booze, benzos. Easy to say now - of course!
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
I'll do it - you mark my words.
lalapanda
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Off topic but omfg your username
I was under the impression that booze is pretty much a no no to mix with anything, beside weed?
foolsgold
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cheers party flocks are meant to have around 200mg of mdma in them thats why i was hoping some one had
as for the meph i can get it hand over fist but like you said it sub par and i never liked it in the first place guess i may just leave the mixing it with mdma for now till i get a report or 2 in
Movemauser
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cheers party flocks are meant to have around 200mg of mdma in them thats why i was hoping some one had
guess i may just leave the mixing it with mdma for now till i get a report or 2 in
Good thinking - 200mg MDMA should be fine for a night out without mixing anything silly like eth. Honestly, I'm through a g in, what, 30 hours? Most of it intranasal, which then goes outranasal! Buzzes you up but crap for sex and you need something on hand in case you get the jitters.... well, maybe that's just me!! Spent half last night thinking the house was surrounded by cops! Guilty conscience? Nah. Just bloody paranoid.
Great name by the way Foolsgold. Very apt here!
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foolsgold
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Good thinking - 200mg MDMA should be fine for a night out without mixing anything silly like eth. Honestly, I'm through a g in, what, 30 hours? Most of it intranasal, which then goes outranasal! Buzzes you up but crap for sex and you need something on hand in case you get the jitters.... well, maybe that's just me!! Spent half last night thinking the house was surrounded by cops! Guilty conscience? Nah. Just bloody paranoid.
Great name by the way Foolsgold. Very apt here!
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ha ha the shadow coppers are after you
me im lucky i live on a farm in the middle of nowhere so dont get the para so much other than wheres the bloody cat cleared off to . as for the tag its a stone roses song but being english i guess you know that but your right with all the fake/dud rc its is apt as for the pills they are about the perfect strength for the job crush one and mix it into a bomb with some speed is what i use to do but that a few years ago really cant make my mind up as what to do this next week .
got the 5g eph 5 25c/25i mix tabs coming and maybe a benzocaine+mdai mix to try out if my guy has got the samples in could do with a smoke and some scotch as well if not a fist full of pills i.e benzo n mdma
foolsgold
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right got the dentist wensday and may need some work doing can any one see any problems with inter actions from the injection not sure which chemical we use in the uk
crazycatman
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it isn't, took a few sprays (around 20mg so 5 or so) to feel it and ran out quickly
but it was only a test run so I didn't want to use more in case I found it to be bad
WhiteDream
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I took my own dab on Ethylphenidate.
Took 13mg to begin with, redosed 14mg twenty minutes later. Felt a bit stimmy. Took 30mg an hour later, with another 30mg an hour later. 4 hour into it and it's nothing major, just slight stimmyness. Dosed 40 mg in an hour, then another 40 mg. At this point I wanted to go somewhere, as it was pretty lackluster. Took 70mg and I were experiencing euphoria, heart racing and very stimmy.
Overall a "OK" chem, nothing amazing. Would also like to note, that I consumed over 300mg of EPD durning my first time. It's definitely to say it's fiendish. However, again, little euphoria, little stim makes for unworthy chem.
Took 13mg to begin with, redosed 14mg twenty minutes later. Felt a bit stimmy. Took 30mg an hour later, with another 30mg an hour later. 4 hour into it and it's nothing major, just slight stimmyness. Dosed 40 mg in an hour, then another 40 mg. At this point I wanted to go somewhere, as it was pretty lackluster. Took 70mg and I were experiencing euphoria, heart racing and very stimmy.
Overall a "OK" chem, nothing amazing. Would also like to note, that I consumed over 300mg of EPD durning my first time. It's definitely to say it's fiendish. However, again, little euphoria, little stim makes for unworthy chem.
konshuss
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I've been scanning the posts on EPH in this thread, just out of curiosity. It's interesting how people have incredibly varied reactions to this RC. Some people love it, some people hate it. Considering we all have somewhat unique pharmacokinetic profiles, I guess it shouldn't be much of a surprise.
So here's what I've deduced after scanning 18+ pages of the EPH thread:
1. EPH used to be quite rare in the RC community but now it's very common.
2. There are two "versions": the crystal (HCl salt?) and the white fluffy powder version.
3. The crystal version is the one that seems to really irritate the mucous membranes when insufflating. The powder version isn't as bad.
4. Different ROA's (of course) seem to contribute to EPH's Jekyll-n-Hyde character.
examples:
a. Some people take a small amount orally and feel sketchy and anxious. Other people feel pleasantly sped up, enjoying a positive mood lift with only a minor come-down.
b. Insufflation seems to work faster, but various people report irritation of their mucous membranes.
c. Vaping EPH hits harder and faster, producing a mild but typical DARI "fuck yeah" feeling. The downside is a significantly shorter buzz (under 1 hour) and longer, more unpleasant come-down. I've read that this ROA also accentuates the "more-ish" aspect of EPH. Again, no big surprise there.
d. Plugging EPH hits quickly (in a couple minutes), producing a buzz that's similar to plugging MPH. Harsher come-down than oral ROA, though (I'm saying this from experience).
e. IV use of EPH hits VERY quickly (obviously), but effects are mixed ... some people report euphoria, some don't. I have read several reports that say IV use of EPH exacerbates the vasoconstriction. The corrosive nature of the EPH HCl salt form is probably a concern as well.
5. EPH has subjectively fewer cadiovascular side-effects compared to MPH, due to its higher affinity for dopamine vs norepinephrine. There still are CV effects to be aware of though, including raised blood pressure, heart rate, and cerebral pressure.
6. Some users report EPH + alcohol to be a good combination. Supposedly it enhances the "feel good" aspect of EPH.
Basically, to use an analogy, ethylphenidate is like methylphenidate's quirky half-brother. EPH has a strange personality that some people like, and some don't. Hell, when it comes to RC's -- we're all part of one big science experiment, aren't we?
Many people on Bluelight absolutely love MPA as a stimulant. I tried it (several times) and absolutely hated it. I honestly gave it a good try, but I thought MPA was god-awful (for several reasons) and threw it in the trash. My physiology just hated it. I couldn't find anything enjoyable about MPA at all.
But EPH? I really REALLY enjoy. I'm one of those people who has an ongoing love-affair with EPH. I use it orally, in measured daily doses not exceeding 20mg. I take 5mg here, 5mg a couple hours later. I'm careful to not use it after 600pm to avoid insomnia problems.
As a fan of methylphenidate, I find ethylphenidate feels similar to "good" Ritalin. I get a decent energy boost and mood lift that lasts several hours, but I don't feel "tweaked out". I'm more talkative, insightful, and functional at work. As long as I drink lots of fluids and eat regular meals, the comedown is negligible.
My only complaints about EPH are that it seems to produce a strange alien tinnitus in my head ... a subtle but high-pitched whine. Easy to ignore, but annoying nonetheless. I've also gotten the same thing from amphetamine, so it's just something that stims do to me, I guess.
Also, if I take too much EPH in too short a time (say 10mg within one hour) I get a little shaky, like caffeine jitters. Again, not worrisome, just annoying.
*** Stay safe, fellow Bluelighters. All the best, peace. ***
So here's what I've deduced after scanning 18+ pages of the EPH thread:
1. EPH used to be quite rare in the RC community but now it's very common.
2. There are two "versions": the crystal (HCl salt?) and the white fluffy powder version.
3. The crystal version is the one that seems to really irritate the mucous membranes when insufflating. The powder version isn't as bad.
4. Different ROA's (of course) seem to contribute to EPH's Jekyll-n-Hyde character.
examples:
a. Some people take a small amount orally and feel sketchy and anxious. Other people feel pleasantly sped up, enjoying a positive mood lift with only a minor come-down.
b. Insufflation seems to work faster, but various people report irritation of their mucous membranes.
c. Vaping EPH hits harder and faster, producing a mild but typical DARI "fuck yeah" feeling. The downside is a significantly shorter buzz (under 1 hour) and longer, more unpleasant come-down. I've read that this ROA also accentuates the "more-ish" aspect of EPH. Again, no big surprise there.
d. Plugging EPH hits quickly (in a couple minutes), producing a buzz that's similar to plugging MPH. Harsher come-down than oral ROA, though (I'm saying this from experience).
e. IV use of EPH hits VERY quickly (obviously), but effects are mixed ... some people report euphoria, some don't. I have read several reports that say IV use of EPH exacerbates the vasoconstriction. The corrosive nature of the EPH HCl salt form is probably a concern as well.
5. EPH has subjectively fewer cadiovascular side-effects compared to MPH, due to its higher affinity for dopamine vs norepinephrine. There still are CV effects to be aware of though, including raised blood pressure, heart rate, and cerebral pressure.
6. Some users report EPH + alcohol to be a good combination. Supposedly it enhances the "feel good" aspect of EPH.
Basically, to use an analogy, ethylphenidate is like methylphenidate's quirky half-brother. EPH has a strange personality that some people like, and some don't. Hell, when it comes to RC's -- we're all part of one big science experiment, aren't we?
Many people on Bluelight absolutely love MPA as a stimulant. I tried it (several times) and absolutely hated it. I honestly gave it a good try, but I thought MPA was god-awful (for several reasons) and threw it in the trash. My physiology just hated it. I couldn't find anything enjoyable about MPA at all.
But EPH? I really REALLY enjoy. I'm one of those people who has an ongoing love-affair with EPH. I use it orally, in measured daily doses not exceeding 20mg. I take 5mg here, 5mg a couple hours later. I'm careful to not use it after 600pm to avoid insomnia problems.
As a fan of methylphenidate, I find ethylphenidate feels similar to "good" Ritalin. I get a decent energy boost and mood lift that lasts several hours, but I don't feel "tweaked out". I'm more talkative, insightful, and functional at work. As long as I drink lots of fluids and eat regular meals, the comedown is negligible.
My only complaints about EPH are that it seems to produce a strange alien tinnitus in my head ... a subtle but high-pitched whine. Easy to ignore, but annoying nonetheless. I've also gotten the same thing from amphetamine, so it's just something that stims do to me, I guess.
Also, if I take too much EPH in too short a time (say 10mg within one hour) I get a little shaky, like caffeine jitters. Again, not worrisome, just annoying.
*** Stay safe, fellow Bluelighters. All the best, peace.
***25mg snorted feels good. 25mg orally just makes me very tense. I get absolutely no euphoria from oral dosing and I'm worried about taking a higher oral dose in case I have a panic attack. I only ever sniff it twice a week (50mg-60mg altogether) and always rinse my nose out afterwards. I've never had any nose bleeds but I've never had one in my life accept when I once snorted some N-Ethyl-Ketamine.
I do get a bit of a runny nose for a day or two but that's all.
I do get a bit of a runny nose for a day or two but that's all.
t6apb
Bluelighter
could this stuff cause your nose to just have 1 nostril? i snort quite alot when i use eph, what are the signs that damage is getting done?
my nose is sore for a few days after using, i never get nose bleeds, i do get bloody bogies tho.
cant really tell if my nose cartilage is getting thinner, dont know what it was like to start with ha
my nose is sore for a few days after using, i never get nose bleeds, i do get bloody bogies tho.
cant really tell if my nose cartilage is getting thinner, dont know what it was like to start with ha
mrcientist
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A couple of good sessions on the crystal stuff and I get terrible bloody scabs on the inside of my nostrils, and what feels like slight indentations on the inside of my nose. Could imagine repeated nasal use becoming a caustic, nose-disintegrating nightmare, but that's just speculation.
I've tended to plug it recently, usually 40mg following 2/3 beers and a benzo of some sort. Lush.
I've tended to plug it recently, usually 40mg following 2/3 beers and a benzo of some sort. Lush.
konshuss
Bluelighter
Many people have reported mucous membrane / nasal damage from snorting the crystal version of this product. There is a powdered version available that is probably more gentle on the nose.
You can also mix a solution of H20 and EPH and spray it into your nose, it doesn't cause any discomfort and works just as good or better than snorting the crystals. I tried it and it's awesome. I describe the "tek" for it earlier in this thread.
You can also mix a solution of H20 and EPH and spray it into your nose, it doesn't cause any discomfort and works just as good or better than snorting the crystals. I tried it and it's awesome. I describe the "tek" for it earlier in this thread.
foolsgold
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love this stuff got 5g Tuesday normally with mpa iv snorted it all by now still got ruffly a gram left only problem is my nose is so damn sore vape's wonderfully to gives a nice buzz but if you do to much that way you get twitchy
Morkin
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Awesome summary konshuss! thank you.
I wish I could get those same effects on a low oral dose - they would be useful for me in a similar way. Normally I don't feel much unless I down about 100mg, empty stomach. I've assuming yours in empty too. I'm going to emulate your way & hope that less is more.
I wish I could get those same effects on a low oral dose - they would be useful for me in a similar way. Normally I don't feel much unless I down about 100mg, empty stomach. I've assuming yours in empty too. I'm going to emulate your way & hope that less is more.
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