The "emergence" of MDMA - oh please...

[mattnotrik]

Youd think you would see atleast a little bit of activity in the pill reports section wouldnt you, or someone on the bluelight forums. Alot of documentrys etc ive seen is that crystal meth is pretty big in china and alot of the pills are meth, but dosent make sense to import MDMA i just dunno

 

[rockstar 69]

A lot of the pips and things are coming from China. Why do you doubt this? I know that (or thought I knew) Meph was originally from China. I have no source for info and am open to be corrected if that's not true and you know otherwise?

Sorry that was badly written. What I ment was pip/RC pills could be coming out of China but it's more likely they would just send the powder than send pills... I know meph was originally from China aswell, contrary to popular belief there is still mephedrone being produced in China now.

I do not believe any MDMA or E's are being sent from China to the UK market though. There is inevitably MDMA being made there but it's more likely supplying the Asian market, and as matt say's above alot of the Asia pills contain a mixture of MDMA/meth, or just meth bombs.

 

[otm]

They'd still be importing the MDMA anyway. So there's still a risk. You're just adding an extra step before they're ready to hit the streets. Instead of getting the pills in good to go.

No they wouldn't. Why are you just assuming the MDMA would be imported?

 

[dhcdavid]

Tbh, I reckon the Chinese/"Asian" receational drug market is more interested in very good quality amphetamine and methamphetamine a la "yaba" pills. I'm totally with the folk on here expressing extreme scepticism about the Chinese being big into making MDMA. I'm sure it's around but as for there being a "huge MDMA production inside China for the Chinese market. There is a large underground scene for drugs in clubs.".....?

I somewhat doubt this considering the Chinese authorities' rather unsympathetic attitude towards illegal drugs.


Why the fuck would Chinese makers - who risk the death penalty/ sentences of eternity in jail if they got caught making most drugs, including MDMA - risk their arses over a non-addictive, rather-tricky-to-make drug like MDMA when they can instead focus their chemical know-how making industrial quantities of stuff like pseudoephedrine which is a precursor for the highly addictive crystal meth which I hear is quite popular stateside at present?

My pikey little chang-dealer keeps trying to sell me £10 pills which allegedly contain massive amounts of molly; but I wouldn't buy one unless it contained minimum 250mg of MD**, which is highly unlikely. And sadly the local police drug-testing laboratory won't allow me to do an unpaid internship there so I have no way of ever knowing the exact amount of MDMA in pills I'm offered.

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Tbh, I reckon the Chinese/"Asian" receational drug market is more interested in very good quality amphetamine and methamphetamine a la "yaba" pills. I'm totally with the folk on here expressing extreme scepticism about the Chinese being big into making MDMA. I'm sure it's around but as for there being a "huge MDMA production inside China for the Chinese market. There is a large underground scene for drugs in clubs.".....?

I somewhat doubt this considering the Chinese authorities' rather unsympathetic attitude towards illegal drugs.

There's a club scene around MDMA (as well as scenes round other drugs you mention). China has a population over 20x that of the UK meaning it would need less than 5% of our sized drug culture to match our MDMA use. MDMA is undoubtedly made in China (and certainly exported to Westernized Hong Kong).

According to Wikipedia

Because of its increasing popularity with young party goers in Beijing, Shanghai, Nanjing, Guangzhou, and Shenzhen, Chinese law enforcement officials report significant increases in the domestic production of MDMA (Ecstasy). Most MDMA production in China is for domestic consumption. MDMA tablets are also imported from the Netherlands into China to meet the demand.

Logic is often suspended when major profits are to be made.

MDMA—mainly European-sourced—has been increasingly seized in Australia at a greater rate than other seizures
use has also been increasing in the US.
As Asia becomes richer, it too is vulnerable to this trend.
And could emerge as an important manufacturing location
which would have global implications

in Australia, operation PATAKA involved 15 kg of heroin and 125 kg of MDMA (source unknown, but possibly pressed in China)

www.afp.gov.au/.../the-global-economy-of-illegal-drugs-presentation... (Powerpoint link might not work)

 

[The RZA]

Does anyone else miss pips? They were totally inactive but created a lovely throbbing headache and turned your face white.

heh heh...