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The EADD Mental Health Support Thread

No need to apologise, hexagram, that's what this place is for :)

Have you tried laying off all drugs (including alcohol) for a while, to see if they're affecting you? I can't see that cocaine is going to do wonders for social anxiety in the long term.. It probably won't be an easy thing to do, but I'd reckon it worthwhile to go without for a month or so. Also, have you talked to your girlfriend about this?
 
I don't think it's a good idea to self-medicate with etizolam. I did that and it ended up badly, nearly killed myself, actually broke my foot and worried a lot of people. It's OK for occasional use after stims or whatever but habits don't work out well.

I know social anxiety is hard, have it myself, although that's been most of my life. Sometimes I'm fine and can be the life and soul of the party, most of the time I'd rather not deal with more than one other person in the room. I dunno, I've not got a fix, etizolam's not it though.
 
can really speak for social anxiety treatments, but i too dnt think cocaine or etizolam are fixes in any way, nor is using alcohol as a crutch.

if anything, i would try to be clean for a little bit, and perhaps, since you ahve a close significant other, try to open up a little bit and talk about things. it really is amazing how a little talking, even when not directly connected to actual issues, can do for the ego and a relationship. communication itself is enough to be able to make one feel "normal" or part of society so to speak. im pretty sure noone actually hates you, but it is the fear that sparks these ideas. using drugs might be a temporary relief but one has to think for the long run a little bit :)

the road to addiction is paved with self medication stories man, dont fall for that trick.
 
No need to apologise, hexagram, that's what this place is for :)

Have you tried laying off all drugs (including alcohol) for a while, to see if they're affecting you? I can't see that cocaine is going to do wonders for social anxiety in the long term.. It probably won't be an easy thing to do, but I'd reckon it worthwhile to go without for a month or so. Also, have you talked to your girlfriend about this?

wise words especially the bit about alcohol . I found since i have stopped drinking that my anxiety levels are not as bad .

They still bad but laying off the poison that is alcohol is one of the best decisions i have made .
 
hello brimzy boy. good to see ya round! well folks, something has happened in my head and I'm not complaining about it at all. I refuse to get stressed and wound up by things, I dunno, i begin to feel annoyance over stuff and then i refuse to let it get a grip of me. I've become nicely laid back. I have to give myself scores out of 20 when i go to my dw every 3 months for mental and physical health. last week i gave myself a 20. I just don't think about the bad stuff and just trust that things will be good.
 
can really speak for social anxiety treatments, but i too dnt think cocaine or etizolam are fixes in any way, nor is using alcohol as a crutch.

Word up kingme, with the replacement of Diaz for Etiz ( coz I'm old skool like that) I've had problems with all of these, the harm of which far out weighed the short term perceived benefits.

I'm not the person to be giving advice on the best way forward, I can barely sustain a vague acquaintance these days and even work is becoming difficult at times. I haven't found ADs have helped this at all in fact my current medication has definitely made me more nervous and tense despite improving my depression.

Laying off all substances, including the booze as it can be a big source of anxiety although it's often over looked for a good 4 weeks will give you an idea if your better off with or without chemical assistance of the kind you have been using.
 
hello brimzy boy. good to see ya round! well folks, something has happened in my head and I'm not complaining about it at all. I refuse to get stressed and wound up by things, I dunno, i begin to feel annoyance over stuff and then i refuse to let it get a grip of me. I've become nicely laid back. I have to give myself scores out of 20 when i go to my dw every 3 months for mental and physical health. last week i gave myself a 20. I just don't think about the bad stuff and just trust that things will be good.

Yeah i do the same thing it's a blue form init ?

I think i may have one 2mora got a KW meet at 10.
 
im going to put this simply if i get bad news in the morning i do not think il be here much more ive had a rough enough of a life as it is losing yet another cat like this is most likely just going to push me over the edge yes a cat but when its all you have in your life its a bit hard to cope with so if do vanish have one on me and see you where ever we end up
 
im going to put this simply if i get bad news in the morning i do not think il be here much more ive had a rough enough of a life as it is losing yet another cat like this is most likely just going to push me over the edge yes a cat but when its all you have in your life its a bit hard to cope with so if do vanish have one on me and see you where ever we end up
come on man it cud be worse its a cat u are on a windup surely? Im lonely sumtimes but come on it wud diff if u had cancer or sumthing i suffer with paranoia but theres people going thu mad stressfull shit sumone close to me who owed a debt for crack was held down and his back slashed 3 lengthy scars with a machete now thats stressful.
A dead cat upsetting no doubt but get a new one cats are friendly dont do anything daft ur better than that man or goto male admissions gud luck
 
if you know anything about my life then you would get what im saying this is not a windup its a warning read back a page or so and you will get the jist as to why,
im not that stable as it is and with everything else losing the only damn thing i give a fuck about in my life is not going to help .
still waiting to find out if its poisoning or something else and ive been suicidal for most of the year he'll most likely be ok but last time when someone shot my cat i had before him i went out tooled up to kill someone for it and the same could most likely happen again hearing voices all the time aint helping with shit .

i said earlier this year i did not expect to be here much longer and the only thing keeping me from offing myself was charlie without him ive got nothing left to be here for really .

ive spent most of my life alone the last 14 years nearly 24/7/365 of it alone bar the out drug up night out or to sign on ive a kid but she doesn't know me and its bet that way no family that matter so its not a windup its the truth i doubt il be about much if its bad news
 
@foolsgold

sorry wasnt have a pop at you i did read back.
i live fucking miles from my mates now so i know all about isolation it was the only place i cud afford at the time and yes ive felt suicidal on and off the last year even recently thats why i take boat loads of drugs. Theres day courses for people in same boat as you ur not the only person with this predicament but fuck suicide ive been thru mad shit over drugs and homelesness etc and should have died a few times but things always turned around eventually not quickly but you would be surprised. Isolation is a cunt i know but keep your head up
 
Yeah FG things can turn around, you can make them turn around. Are you on any meds for your bleak moods ? If not get on some ASAP, they arent gonna make you feel on top of the world, but should stop the lows becoming too low. You dont wanna be another tragedy mate. I know about isolation and how bad it is, when i first moved to Manchester I had only 1 friend, and then we fell out,, and i was then on the dole and completely isolated for about 18 months. That was one of the worst periods of my life.

Ive got family but dont find them that easy to talk to, I'm a bit of a black sheep to my extended family, cousins and uncles and all that, and most of my closest family is is Australia. I'm still struggling now, but i can see a light at the end of the tunnel. And Im not talking about what you might see if you were to take your own life.
 
FG being isolated will be a huge part of your problems, and its 1 only you can fix. Get the help you need mate, or at least start going and doing activities/volunteering etc, go to an NA meeting even if you dont wanna quit, its still human contact, anything that gets you out the house. I know it feels like too much effort, you cannae be arsed and you'd rather be out, but shit, things can get better, and they will. 1 step at a time

Hope the cats alright FG. Pm me if you wanna talk.
 
having a very bad day today.

It's weird, i'm probably going to sound pathetic and whiney, but even though on paper everything seems to be going quite well in my life (things going well with gf, lots of friends who I see a lot, starting third year of uni, family life going well) I've just felt so utterly miserable, lost and alone these past few weeks. I don't know if I can explain it, it's weird. There's not much that's going wrong but I just don't feel right at all. Idk. I probably sound like a moany bastard.

Today is not going well at all though. I'm concerned that this is actual clinical depression. Jesus maybe everyone on ED was right after all about mdma being neurotoxic and that.
 
Stop blaming the drugs. My guess is your problems aren't that superficial.

Life expectations, for example, the pressure to attain, when you're unsure of what your own goals are, can be enough of a headfuck.

Or maybe you're just being a whiny cunt. Who knows? :D
 
It's weird, i'm probably going to sound pathetic and whiney, but even though on paper everything seems to be going quite well in my life (things going well with gf, lots of friends who I see a lot, starting third year of uni, family life going well) I've just felt so utterly miserable, lost and alone these past few weeks. I don't know if I can explain it, it's weird. There's not much that's going wrong but I just don't feel right at all. Idk. I probably sound like a moany bastard.

Today is not going well at all though. I'm concerned that this is actual clinical depression. Jesus maybe everyone on ED was right after all about mdma being neurotoxic and that.
Don't feel like you need a reason to feel the way you do. Brains are complicated things. It could be caused by mdma, depending on how much you've done, but in my experience alcohol is by far the worst thing for making me depressed (usually a few days after drinking.)

Plus I don't think it's as black and white as either being not depressed, or being clinically depressed. Mild depression might not warrant being prescribed meds, but it will still make you feel very miserable.
 
Hey...

Just registered to have a bit of a chat with you all. I used to post on here a few years back when I actually sort of enjoyed taking drugs. Thats mostly done and dusted. I was gonna post in the DS forum but tbh there's some fucking messed up shit posted in there... I don't think I'm that far gone.

My questions benzo related. I've been using them recreationally for about 4 years. Sometimes worse than others. I've been a total mess at times. They now stopped working (totally no matter how much I use) I don't even look fucked up any more (I know as I'd be told) But they have totally fucked my head up. I'll not go into the SEs but I've had them all. Not the physical withdrawal types as I always had breaks but the psychological fucked up ones.

A quick question I have is...I've been taking Baclofen for cravings which has helped with the booze a lot but I know its a GABA agonist even though GABA-B. I tapered my dose down as on high doses its a bit like mild psychosis which I couldn't handle. I'm wondering if using any GABA agonists is hampering me? I'm in two minds whether to stop it. I'd love to just be totally drug free but the booze cravings are so intense its unreal.

I've actually stopped reading most Internet forums as they depress the fuck out of me and if I'm honest most will give you false info or tell you you have all sorts of psychological problems. (mostly yank forums) Example being... I was on benzobuddies and some girl said I need to go on a diaz taper as I was physically addicted to it. WTF like. I take diaz 2 maybe 3 times a month.

Tbh I know I've a touch of OCD and an addictive personality but in all honesty most users do. I can handle it when drug free for a while so its no biggy. Those fucking forums will have you thinking you need to be on every fucking drug known to man. Some of there signatures where they post what they're on scares the shit out of me. Again though... I've probably been looking on the wrong forums.

I'm 5 days from my last binge and still feel a bit messed up in the head. I've felt totally empty. Couldn't read... watch a movie... no interest in anything at all. Just watch random shit on TV. I've been here before so know the score. It goes away slowly (if I let it... being not buying more) I went 9 months last year and it was great. I'm really gonna try and give this a shot as I don't want to wake up in 20 years fucked in the head.

This year had been worse than last I've basically had a binge every month sometimes twice. But I've managed. Behavior like that just doesn't give your head time to heal. Its no where near as bad as 2011. I was a walking zombie. I'd go missing for days and done some fucked up shit that still sticks with me. Last year I stopped in May to December and it was great looking back.

Benzos are fucking evil. I've a heavy drinker but nothing messes with you like these things.
 
Replying here to recent splurge in Trifle Annoyed Thread cos this one seems far more appropriate (well, the latter part of post anyway) and am completely sober so more inclined to notice and respect which thread I happen to be in at the time...

(oh, and it ended up a bit lengthy (look down there: see 8o). apologies for length, but feel the girth 8o)

They talk sense. Civilisation and people would do wonders. I really hope you consider one of these options soon.

Been considering that since before I even moved here. And for the decade or so since. Practicalities are the problem. I have no responsibilities, no ties to anything or anywhere and no reason to be anywhere in particular which you'd think would be a plus point but really isn't. Too much choice with little or nothing to base any decision on. Stick a pin in the map and hope for the best? I'd rather have at least some idea that I'm going into a better situation than I'm leaving cos although almost any situation would be better I'd kinda like something to base that on given how stupidly difficult it's gonna be to move at all. Have done plenty of drifting and plenty of running away from things, neither of which seems to have worked so well, so would much rather be moving to something.

That seems a big ask though. Am essentially gonna just have to pick a place more or less at random and hope I like it. I'd've done that inna heartbeat in the past but am getting onna bit now and don't bounce as well as I once did. Can't stand the thought of being homeless again and that's a very real risk for me. Is not easy trying to find accommodation in a place you don't live in and can't even visit properly in advance. Is hard enough finding a decent landlord in a town you live in and know people to ask around but will essentially be pure pot luck in my situation. And as it's gonna be somewhere I have no personal ties to, the local authority is not obliged to house me which makes having to sleep rough a very real possibility. Not an appealing one either.

Other practical problem is that the DWP lost me off their system for three months when they switched from Income Support to ESA and never did pay back all the back rent and council tax which means "I" now owe my current landlords just under a grand. Is being taken out my benefits (along with a gazillion other debts :!) so they'll definitely get it back, but is gonna take several years and I really don't know if they'll even let me leave here without having paid it all off first. That one is easy to find out, I know. I think I've been putting off enquiring cos I kinda expect they're gonna say I can't leave until it's all been paid off which means there really is no way out at all in the foreseeable. I really need to though cos there is no point even thinking about moving anywhere if I simply can't.

So yeah, I have vague (very vague) plans of how I could get away but they really are vague and the problems often feel insurmountable. And given the kinda state of mind I've been in of late (well, for the last few years really, just not quite so acutely as now) it really does feel like an impossible task. Which is ridiculous. Really isn't easy though. Have spoken to various professional types - housing peeps, CAB-type peeps, social worker-type peeps - at great length about all this for last ten years and so far everyone seems to think I'm basically stuck here. I'm sure that isn't really the case. There is certainly no easy way out though :\

Come back sooner rather than later. Continue venting, it's fine, that's what this place is here for. <3

Well I came back later rather than sooner cos was as intensely hungover as I deserved to be really. I really need to just stop drinking completely for a while cos I don't seem to be capable of happy drunk at the moment and am as sick of posting miserable, whining, drunken self-pity as I am of not being able to read it back whenever I log back in again cos it's horrid. Depressed people are depressing. At least they are if that's all you ever see from them and seems to be all anyone sees of me these last few weeks.

This really isn't what this place is here for. Not really. The connections to drugs are kinda flimsy. Well, direct connections anyway. I guess it could come in under social problems stemming from drugs cos I wouldn't be in this position now if I hadn't let addictions spiral to quite the extent they did. And have been wondering for some time now if my rather extreme lack of motivation to do anything at all - even things I really like doing or things that will obviously be of great benefit to me, however big or small the effort involved would be - could be related to years of heavy stim (ab)use. This last year or so has been the most sober I've ever been since first discovering drugs. Am bordering on being abstinent and teetotal much of the time. Doesn't seem to suit me at all :!

Aside from the possible/probable druggy stuffs, I get the impression recent events have opened a whole can o' worms in terms of mood swings and depressions and the like. Always been prone to such things but had been kept at bay for a while cos at least there was one really Good Thing in my lil (oh so very lil) world. Now there isn't so something has to change cos can't live like this. Really isn't a life worth living and that worries me cos has been a long and difficult road to reach the level of stability I've been at these last few years. Come too far to slide back to the insane mood swings and those deepest, darkest depressions of times past.

I seem to be in a bit of a vicious circle - a Catch 22 kinda deal. Underlying depression has been stable for some time now but is a fragile stability. Have done a lotta work on myself and think I've dealt with a helluva lot of the stuff behind my more turbulent mindstates. However, a large part of this stability also came from the fact I'm finally in a stable situation. No real risk of homelessness for many years now (which was obvious a source of great instability in the past,) addictions - and drug use in general - tamed (ongoing process though, obviously) and, although social situation has never been great here, I at least had one person I'd been very close to the whole time I've been here.

Now all of those things have either changed or are about to which is causing a bit of situational depression. I'm sure that's not a recognised term but y'know what I mean. Depression brought on by situation and circumstance. Is only natural I'd be feeling down after losing that one person I'd been so close to the whole time I've been here but that seems to be bringing back underlying depression that's been there forever. Or at least bringing it to the foreground again.

Whatever the case, it really doesn't help with motivation. When I'm down I tend to go out of my way to make things worse sometimes. Is a fukked up thing but I know I do it. Don't know why I do it but is just part of the whole depression thing, I think. Seems to be for me anyway. Really doesn't help though. Obviously. I know what I need to do. And I know nobody can do it for me. And that - truthfully - nobody can even really help much... if at all. I know what I need to do but have no idea how to do it nor where to start.

Yes, I know. Start at the beginning. And I think the beginning has to be investing in some stimulants cos I just can't even begin to imagine how anything is gonna happen otherwise. I struggle to motivate myself to scratch my arse unless it's really itchy. Motivating myself to do something I have no real idea how to do - or even if it's possible - is gonna take a bit of assistance. Is the kinda stuff you really miss having people around for. Days, weeks, months, years just drift by without you even noticing cos everything is always the same. Nothing ever changes. Then something changed and all that wasted, lost time has kinda hit me a bit hard and have been reeling a bit for a while. Need to pull head from arse and at least try to do something to get away from here before giving up and clocking off.

(apologies for long and disjointed ramble. i really should edit the living shit outta that but just cannot be arsed. there's only so much whiney, defeatist bollocks even i can take :D)
 
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