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felix
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WATSON'S!!! 
this is all his fault.
this is all his fault.
tragiclemming
Bluelighter
If the graphical installer is full of gems like this, I fear for what your system will end up looking like :D
Are the disks formatted already? If they are, you may be able to abort the install and reboot from the cd and try the install again.
Another option is to format the disk you want to install Arch on from within Mint and repeat the install process.
felix
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@ atm: thanks man. :D
my gameplan was:
1) ask EADD for a quick fix
2) search the forums
\lazy
@ TL: oooh... nice idea. the disk is allegedly formatted/partitioned OK, by the Arch setup itself. this is a throwaway 30GB secondary disk (sdb); the other one (sda) has Mint/LXDE on it.
cheers. will report back later.
my gameplan was:
1) ask EADD for a quick fix
2) search the forums
\lazy
@ TL: oooh... nice idea. the disk is allegedly formatted/partitioned OK, by the Arch setup itself. this is a throwaway 30GB secondary disk (sdb); the other one (sda) has Mint/LXDE on it.
cheers. will report back later.
felix
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a-hah. restarting the installation, it informed me what went wrong - apparently I hadn't set the date & time correctly. all steam ahead now, installing packages.
there is something very pure about this... I get the point of it. hopefully I'll get to a GUI soon.
there is something very pure about this... I get the point of it. hopefully I'll get to a GUI soon.
watsons torment
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Been away for a while but nice to see the linux thread is still going.
how is Big Ted doing with arch?
how is Big Ted doing with arch?
felix
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not quite there yet.
![:\](https://bluelight.org/xf/BL_Images/Orig_Emoji/wrygrin.gif "wry grin :\")
I think the installation went OK, but he might have a GRUB problem:
attempting to boot into arch (which is on sdb) results in:
I did 'sudo update-grub' before trying this. now stuck again.
i'm sure I set root to be on 'sdb1', not 'sdb3'. that's confusing me. and Big Ted.
Shambles
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How to put off any potential new Linux converts: post pics of when it goes tits up and reverts to Linuxspeak onna black background
Arch is one of the few variants I never got around to trying. Is there special reason for giving it a bashD)?
Arch is one of the few variants I never got around to trying. Is there special reason for giving it a bash
D)?
knock
Bluelighter
you got two hard drives in there? Looks like it's getting sda and sdb confused, (rather than it getting sdb1 and sdb3 confused as you say).
Not sure what you'll have available at that shell prompt but dmesg should give some output including the names of the detected drives. This might be useful.
Not sure what you'll have available at that shell prompt but dmesg should give some output including the names of the detected drives. This might be useful.
felix
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yep, two physical disks.
sda has LinuxMint11 / LXDE
sdb has Arch Linux
don't understand why it's looking for sda3 (or saying it doesn't exist) when attempting to boot into Arch, which is on sdb.
dmesg just scrolled very quickly - can it be paused or output to a file? would posting up my grub config file help? (and if so, where would I find it, please? :D)
sda has LinuxMint11 / LXDE
sdb has Arch Linux
don't understand why it's looking for sda3 (or saying it doesn't exist) when attempting to boot into Arch, which is on sdb.
dmesg just scrolled very quickly - can it be paused or output to a file? would posting up my grub config file help? (and if so, where would I find it, please? :D)
knock
Bluelighter
try
dmesg | more
or
dmesg | less
if that doesn't work, to page through the output.
grub config is probably in /boot/grub/something but the grub config files have fairly recently changed and I haven't kept up!
EDIT
See in my Ubuntu I have /boot/grub/grub.cfg but it says:
So I think there's no point editing that file!
The a b c d in sda, sdb, sdc, sdd should correspond to primary master, primary slave, secondary master, secondary slave respectively.
I can't tell why yours is confused. Are they SATA drives perchance? Or a combination of PATA and SATA?
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Shambles
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Took me a bloody dog's age to work out that "command" | more/less thingy. Very handy tip is that, Knock. Saves mucho desperate attempts to hit the spacebar and hope it pauses for ya
knock
Bluelighter
Might be something useful here: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=87941
or here https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=129640
or here! https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev
Read those, I'm off to do my dishes, have it fixed by the time I get back
or here https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=129640
or here! https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udev
Read those, I'm off to do my dishes, have it fixed by the time I get back
felix
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the thought of a BIOS 'autodetecting' and labelling drives based on which one responds first sounds pretty fucking retarded. these things are specified clearly in the BIOS; it's not left to chance. hmmmph.
I'll go upstairs and unplug sda; let's see what that does.
thanks.
I'll go upstairs and unplug sda; let's see what that does.
thanks.
BecomingJulie
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Try running
$ sudo grub-mkconfig
?
If you need to edit /etc/default/grub or anything then Ubuntu should have the 'nano' editor, which is like pico (which was the editor out of the pine email client - pine composer). Easier than vi (which really needs a cheat sheet). ^K cuts line to clipboard, keeps adding to it as long as cursor is not moved; ^U pastes. Put a comment mark # at the beginning of a line to comment it out.
$ sudo /bin/bash
should give you a root # prompt. ^D to get back to normal $ prompt, ^D again to exit.
Modern Ubuntu versions should use UUIDs to identify partitions, this survives device re-ordering.
$ sudo grub-mkconfig
?
If you need to edit /etc/default/grub or anything then Ubuntu should have the 'nano' editor, which is like pico (which was the editor out of the pine email client - pine composer). Easier than vi (which really needs a cheat sheet). ^K cuts line to clipboard, keeps adding to it as long as cursor is not moved; ^U pastes. Put a comment mark # at the beginning of a line to comment it out.
$ sudo /bin/bash
should give you a root # prompt. ^D to get back to normal $ prompt, ^D again to exit.
Modern Ubuntu versions should use UUIDs to identify partitions, this survives device re-ordering.
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Arch is busy installing gnome in virtualbox, had to use the 32 bit one though as the 64 bit one said no...
Which codec pack did you guys install that works for most files?
Edit:don't use the net-install image this shit sucks donkey cock, it keeps on missing packages even after changing the mirror list and over an hour to attempt to install a window manager each time, if the core image don't work within an hour of starting installation arch can fuck right off it just is a pain in the arse in the same way gentoo was which is dying. That would even ask 'do you want to install a recycle bin'what a stupid fuckface question.
Which codec pack did you guys install that works for most files?
Edit:don't use the net-install image this shit sucks donkey cock, it keeps on missing packages even after changing the mirror list and over an hour to attempt to install a window manager each time, if the core image don't work within an hour of starting installation arch can fuck right off it just is a pain in the arse in the same way gentoo was which is dying. That would even ask 'do you want to install a recycle bin'what a stupid fuckface question.
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knock
Bluelighter
Whatever happened to Felix? I'm sure he came back down from the attic as he was fucking with bluelight the other day.
felix
Bluelight Crew
Hehe, I'm back! I've been taking a break from Big Ted but I was dreaming about him last night, so I'm gonna have another go today. :D
Unplugging sda didn't help in the slightest, btw.
I tried the netinstall image first but it wouldn't even boot from it. the core one appeared to work OK though.
thanks for the advice there, BecomingJulie (BJ?), I'll give that a go.
Unplugging sda didn't help in the slightest, btw.
I tried the netinstall image first but it wouldn't even boot from it. the core one appeared to work OK though.
thanks for the advice there, BecomingJulie (BJ?), I'll give that a go.
felix
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Right, fuck it. Back to square one with Arch. I suspect my secondary disk is faulty and was slowing the whole machine down. It's showing some bad sectors etc.
So I decided to go for a scorched earth strategy by unplugging the second disk and just wiping the main one. I've managed to install Arch on it OK (I think) by using pretty much all the defaults and I can now login as root OK.
The problem now is when I attempt to update the system, I'm getting error messages I don't understand. I really, REALLY want to install the X window system, but I'm stuck again.
Help... please.
So I decided to go for a scorched earth strategy by unplugging the second disk and just wiping the main one. I've managed to install Arch on it OK (I think) by using pretty much all the defaults and I can now login as root OK.
The problem now is when I attempt to update the system, I'm getting error messages I don't understand. I really, REALLY want to install the X window system, but I'm stuck again.
Help... please.