The EADD Health, Sickness and Pain Thread - share what ails you here.

[wcote]

Yeah, should be fine!

 

[bunge]

Propoxyphene was banned due to unacceptable levels of mortality during overdose (deliberate or accidental).
Used sparingly and short-term and you should be fine (unless you have a serious heart condition).
Pregabalin will help with nerve pain and boosts opioid painkillers.
Be careful mixing pregabalin and etizolam though as the pregabalin will increase the effect of benzos ALOT.

 

[Eveleivibe]

Yep still me-still in fucking agony and whinging/crying/screaming.

However I take it all back I have reached into the depths of the pharmacopeia drawer and found 7 CO-proxamal (their life alleged ended 2002 but fuck it wil try anything now and some co-drydamol...gonna have to watch it as am so desperate just to sleep. 5mg etz managed 5 hours before waking screaming in pain...also have someone old script of pregabalin lyrica..but I don'really understand if that would help..confused by wiki explanation...I collect meds like other collect well collectables.

Think I watched Drugstore cowboy too many times as a kid...any advice..banged 2 co-proxamol 5 mins ago. I would rather risk a stroke than deal with this level of intense pain. Although I hasten to add I don't smash and grabs at chemists...

I'm so sorry for what you're going through. Sending a virtual ((((hug)))).

 

[Inflorescence]

I'm so sorry for what you're going through. Sending a virtual ((((hug)))).

I feel like a bit of a fraud as people dealing with far far worse. I think I have become a little self obsessed but pain and this variety tends to seriously impair normality and empathy, respectful sympathy to others as you are so caught up in yourself. However I really do send my utmost love and extending warmth and get well vibrations to those that have no end to infernal pain. I think I mine has an end date all being well...which make me pretty lucky in scheme of things.

 

[Eveleivibe]

You're not a fraud. You're in pain so moan away. It's kewl x

 

[maxalfie]

I feel like a bit of a fraud as people dealing with far far worse. I think I have become a little self obsessed but pain and this variety tends to seriously impair normality and empathy, respectful sympathy to others as you are so caught up in yourself. However I really do send my utmost love and extending warmth and get well vibrations to those that have no end to infernal pain. I think I mine has an end date all being well...which make me pretty lucky in scheme of things.

I hope you can enjoy a day with no pain soon.It must be terrible tl be in constant pain and my sympathy is with you.
Hope things improve for you soon.

 

[Inflorescence]

wine, powders and pills for breakfast..very bad. Catheter removed tomorrow and it will be one of the happiest days of my adult life. How you Max?

 

[maxalfie]

I'm doing fine thanks. So far only side effects I've had from chemo is my hair falling out, sore gums and my eyes feel sore & gritty a lot of the time.
Not really any pain to deal with thankfully and the side effects I have had I was already pre-warned about so nothing really came as a shock to me.
I did have to spend some days in hospital as I had neutropenia which is when my white blood cell count dropped to zero so my body couldn't fight infection etc, but was given hormone injections to take to stop it happening again.
Back in hospital on Friday for third cycle of chemo.It takes all day so I make sure I take a good book in with me to help pass the time.

 

[Josh]

You're not a fraud. You're in pain so moan away. It's kewl x

QFT. I keep saying in this thread that no pain or ill health is any good (and it's certainly not a competition), and this thread is a great place to come and get it off your chest, so keep posting and we'll keep listening.

@max, glad to hear you're not suffering too much with the chemo. I frequent a Facebook group for people with bowel conditions so naturally have seen several people go through the mill with it. One guy recently has been out doing 5 and 10k runs in spite of it all! He's sp positive, a real inspiration to us. Just goes to show how important a positive attitude is to fighting illness.

@inflorescence, great news about the catheter, enjoy your first proper pee! Hopefully with that out the way your body can focus on healing and your pain will subside.

Me, well I'm getting mixed results from the steroids and am in pain a lot of the night which is making me grouchy! But the days aren't too bad usually so at least I can get on with my job a bit better. I'm studying diet guides and hacking away at my own with some signs of improvement too. I refuse to be beat by this! But I never expected it to be this hard. I want to feel like I'm alive again, rather than just existing, surviving. I'll get there somehow.

to y'all.

 

[Inflorescence]

Maxalife and Roganjosh today is the day the bastard thing comes out and hopefully the actual stitches internally etc are all good and it was a necessary evil I am so glad your not in pain Max, you sound like you are in some discomfort though.
I will pop in here from time to time to see how you are all getting on. Stay mentally and physically strong as you can. Eat well and do things that make you happy when you can. I know what you mean Rogan about just existing.

We are all stronger than we think but it is good to get it all out. You have all really helped me just with kind words and good wishes. You have also made the load a little lighter on the husband...and while he doesn't know that I thank you on his behalf too.

Big to all and wishing your speedy healing and pain free existence comes quick. xxx

 

[maxalfie]

I hope everything went ok for you today Inflorescence and you aren't in so much pain now. Hope you heal up all nice and well.
@Roganjosh enjoy sorting yourself out a decent diet that you can enjoy and that will do you some good.
I hope that the steroids start to work a bit better for you.
Take care the pair of you.

 

[Shambles]

Just back from my physio appointment. Went well. No real surprises - I know what the problem is and know what needs doing to make the best of it - but good to get it all confirmed anyway. Nice fella he was too which helps - no snidey comments or feeling of being judged for what is largely self-inflicted (or at least not putting in the requisite effort to keep on top of it). Did a general check up and there's no major problems that require anything major doing - basically a case of stretching and exercising to build up the strength and flexibility. He gave me a couple stretching exercises to do at home which are dead simple - even I can't complain about 'em - and referred me for a 16 week course at the local leisure centre that's specifically for chronic back pain sufferers. Gotta pay for it but it's only £1.50 a session, 2 afternoons a week. Reckon it'll be worth the cash if only for the motivation of getting out and about a bit. Which sounds vaguely pathetic but also quite sensible. It's not easy motivating yourself when you've become stuck in a bit of a rut so just the change of scene should make a difference. Overall, pleased with a positive outcome

As for pain, surprisingly little. My neck and back certainly know they've been pushed and pulled and stretched and flexed into positions they are not used to but this is exactly what needs doing and is only gonna get easier as they adjust. Gotta go back next week to check all is going well but other than that it's just a case of doing me lil stretches and trying to build up general activity levels as much as possible. Basically, all down to me putting in the effort so only got myself to blame if I don't really. But I fully intend to cos it's just plain shit being in pain when you don't need to be. Or certainly don't need to be in as much pain.

 

[Sammy G]

Nice one Shambles. Looks like it's lifted yer spirits anyhow.

My fibromyalgia has kicked in pretty badly. Not as bad as it has in days gone by, mind, but enough that it's excruciating to stretch my legs sometimes, and I've had to alter the way I walk in certain situations, especially steep stairs.

At least I know it's not 'proper' arthritis now, and it's just another bonus of being bipolar, but I'm wondering about my options for pain relief, should I ask. I think most NSAIDs are conraindicated because of the lithium, but I'm also a known polydrug abuser.

Anyone with similar experience?

 

[wcote]

My vertebra pain is pretty bad ATM. Its weird. My lower muscle pain is pretty good.

But this bone pain, argh wish surgery worked on it, but it didn't.

 

[Sprout]

Knees are in agony - an 8 on the pain scale (I was nearly crying on the front room floor), I don't get why but the plical bodies (unnecessary bits of loose cartilage) stuck right under my kneecap on both legs. Imagine sticking a chisel between your kneecap and tibia, then cover that chisel in pain receptors. I have a constant underlying, burning pain at about a 3 24/7 which I can deal with, but the sharp pain is fucking terrible. My knees were completely locked and my calf muscles went into spasm.
600g of PST and 300mg of Codeine has lowered it to a 5-ish.

 

[aftershocknrock]

Good that you found a decent physio shammy, iv had a few in my time ranging from how the fuck did you get this job awful to pretty decent. I managed to wrangle intensive physio at the local hospital after years of shit normal physio but fucked it up and got discharged due to MDPV.....il say no more
Hope everyone else is keeping as well as can be in current circumstances, max, rogan, infloresence, wcote and the rest of the rabble
Sprout i can particularly emphasise with you as knees are my main source of hassle feel like an auld yin even though iv barely made a mark on my twenty's. * apologies for spelling and such, but thats home brew cider for ya*

 

[Eveleivibe]

Just back from my physio appointment. Went well. No real surprises - I know what the problem is and know what needs doing to make the best of it - but good to get it all confirmed anyway. Nice fella he was too which helps - no snidey comments or feeling of being judged for what is largely self-inflicted (or at least not putting in the requisite effort to keep on top of it). Did a general check up and there's no major problems that require anything major doing - basically a case of stretching and exercising to build up the strength and flexibility. He gave me a couple stretching exercises to do at home which are dead simple - even I can't complain about 'em - and referred me for a 16 week course at the local leisure centre that's specifically for chronic back pain sufferers. Gotta pay for it but it's only £1.50 a session, 2 afternoons a week. Reckon it'll be worth the cash if only for the motivation of getting out and about a bit. Which sounds vaguely pathetic but also quite sensible. It's not easy motivating yourself when you've become stuck in a bit of a rut so just the change of scene should make a difference. Overall, pleased with a positive outcome

As for pain, surprisingly little. My neck and back certainly know they've been pushed and pulled and stretched and flexed into positions they are not used to but this is exactly what needs doing and is only gonna get easier as they adjust. Gotta go back next week to check all is going well but other than that it's just a case of doing me lil stretches and trying to build up general activity levels as much as possible. Basically, all down to me putting in the effort so only got myself to blame if I don't really. But I fully intend to cos it's just plain shit being in pain when you don't need to be. Or certainly don't need to be in as much pain.

Awh didn't know you had chronic back pain - glad they're helping you xxxx

 

[Shambles]

^ Thanks, Evey, Aftershock

Knees are in agony - an 8 on the pain scale (I was nearly crying on the front room floor), I don't get why but the plical bodies (unnecessary bits of loose cartilage) stuck right under my kneecap on both legs. Imagine sticking a chisel between your kneecap and tibia, then cover that chisel in pain receptors. I have a constant underlying, burning pain at about a 3 24/7 which I can deal with, but the sharp pain is fucking terrible. My knees were completely locked and my calf muscles went into spasm.
600g of PST and 300mg of Codeine has lowered it to a 5-ish.

You paint a painfully vivid picture there, Sprout. I bitch and whine a lot about back pain (and it does bloody hurt when it's bad) but this thread never ceases to remind me of how very much worse things could be. I can't exactly empathise cos I have no real way of understanding quite how horrid a thing that must be to live with (I saw your recent post about regular bouts of surgery being required lifelong too) so will instead sympathise, wish you well and hope it at least eases up soonest

If you don't mind me asking, does it flare up like this frequently or is it more that it gets progressively worse as you get closer to needing another round of surgery? Not that I have any great need to know, just curious as to how it is really. Perhaps I'm looking for more ways to put my own lil complaints into perspective or summat. That and general curiosity as it's not a condition I've come across before and just like to know stuff really.

I managed to wrangle intensive physio at the local hospital after years of shit normal physio but fucked it up and got discharged due to MDPV.....il say no more

I suspect there's a tale attached to that throwaway sentence - one I get the feeling would have a certain degree of familiarity to me :D

 

[Arnold]

^ do you drink tea and/or coffee?

 

[Shambles]

I had an instant mocha latte a few hours ago - coz I iz a hardcore mofo. Although in answer to your other question, I just have a bad case of textual diarrhea.