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The EADD Health, Sickness and Pain Thread - share what ails you here.

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Shambles said:
Have also been tried an a gazillion combinations of meds over the years - plus stuff I've sought out and tried myself - so drug options are pretty limited now. Not tried gabapentin yet and really don't fancy it longterm but would be willing to try it. No chance of going back on tramadol. Amytriptaline is an odd choice for bone pain. Was scripted it years ago for depression and insomnia but I get horrendous side-effects from it so that's a no-no.
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Gaba/Ami are only going to do anything unless it is nerve pain or neuropathic pain as its otherwise known, i.e. down to misfiring nerve signals rather than a physical injury, since they aren't painkillers in the traditional sense. I'm not sure what 'bone pain' means exactly though so maybe worth a shot I guess.

Hopefully you can get to the pain clinic and they can sort you out with a proper regime of meds that actually work. Perhaps some opiates stronger than tram/codeine are needed, although its so bloody difficult getting them prescribed here unlike over the pond with those prescription-happy yanks. Must be awful if that's the only thing holding you back from working and doing more.

Maybe they will decide you need to back on the smack hah, seems that is the only thing that worked.
 
^ this is the thing. Tis bullshit as well that when you're used to diamorphine/ heroin whatever you want to call it that you needs more and more and more to get the same effects. yes you do build up a tolerance, but it only takes a coupla days of reducing/ no use to take it again and your blottoed. I have maintained a 0.2 a day habit for the past 13 years. yes there have been times when my habit has increased a bit, but that has been thru greed more than anything. it's mad. it is an effective painkiller and it does no organic damage. Why is it that it became the devil of all medications? "heroin the wonder drug" to be sang to the tune of champion the wonder horse.

My eye is still annoying me. they gave me a very greasy ointment for it and i know it's getting better
 
Certainly an interesting proposition - pharmaceutical grade diamorphine given out by the pharmacy. Why is this necessarily so much worse than giving out endless boxes of tramadol? There's plenty of drugs they give out like candy that are physically damaging and are just as likely to kill the person if they took 4x the recommended dose.

Cannabis is even more of a case in point, one of the most physically benign drugs known to man and also impossible to kill oneself with. Can be a very good painkiller depending on the strain, as effective as the milder opiates and the important thing is that used in combination it can dramatically reduce the amount of opiates needed, therefore lowering the risks of addiction/dependence.

I've got a couple of different nice strains of weed which are great for my pain and used in small doses make me far less zombified than tramadol/codeine. But I can only smoke them in secret since I haven't got my own place. Yet popping strong opiates all day is JUST FINE. Strange world we live in.
 
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My taste of pain for the day was deciding exploring abandoned holiday chalets near me was a good idea. The pain came from the wasp's nest I discovered inside one of them and being stung 11 times, not so much fun. Still, it hurts a lot less than I remember it hurting, I remember getting stung as a kid was earth shatteringly painful so there's a bright side
 
In 1984, when I was 17, I was in a firefight in South Lebanon. A 7.62MM round hit concrete and imploded sending many shell particles thru the underside of my chin (palate). They broke both jaws and many then continued into my sinus cavity. I was airlifted south and given a few rounds of micro-surgery.

Aside from missing 3 front teeth (top), I have shards still in my sinuses. The combination of their nearly microscopic size and proximity to my brain means they will stay inside me. Appearance wise, I have scarring under my chin, my jaws are nearly 2cm off in alignment and my right nostril is a slit from cartilage damage. I have 14% breathing nasally which sucked because I have always engaged in endeavours requiring a lot of physical stamina. My jaws ache every few weeks and my teeth are shot. I would love to have most pulled and get dental implants but all the micro-fractures in my jaws won't allow it. The most dangerous aspect is that the shards in my sinuses can migrate. If they migrate towards my brain I will die. On the other hand, this past summer, one migrated to a point in which it came into contact with my bloodstream and I got Sepsis, not fun.

7 months after I had returned to Southern Lebanon, almost on my 18th birthday, a 60MM mortar shell impacted near our position. I was on the edge of the radius so I survived but with moderate shrapnel in my right abdomen, left wrist and top of my skull. The worst was my abdomen. I got another copter ride south and didn't return to Lebanon until almost 19.

By my 2nd incident I became dependent upon morphine. In one of the 2 incidents I acquired Hepatitis-C. In those days we re-used IV lines and needles on the battlefield. Many of us caught that virus. I am grateful that Israel didn't really face HIV for another decade or surely I would have caught that as well.

When I was weaned off of morphine the 2nd time I got very sick. I had no idea what that meant but my squadmates did and advised me to self administer the syrettes we carried. In those days every combat soldier carried 2 pre-loaded syrettes that were jabbed in the shoulder (or any muscle really). Mine lasted a day, when through the entire squad's (6 other men) and then began trading the cigarettes they gave us since I didn't smoke. This was touch and go but luckily for me- or unluckily as the case may be- Southern Lebanon was at that time a major source nation. Beka'a was covered with poppies (they grow wild in Israel but in Lebanon they farmed them) and produced #2 Heroin out of them.An untouched gramme cost me 3 US and like many in the IDF at that time and place, I developed a massive habit.

At age 20 the IDF began cracking down as more and more soldiers began returning home as junkies. I was given a choice, get on methadone maintenance or cashier out. I opted for methadone. These days, at age 46, I maintain on morphine but when visiting the US, as I am now, I must use methadone, 220 milligrammes once a day orally. When I am in pain I double or even triple that dose but it does not help much. At home in the Philippines it is easier to medicate because morphine allows a more precise titration.
 
Wow, what en eye-opening post, thanks for that :)

I cannot imagine sending a 17 year old back inot the battlefield a year after the first incident...terrible...
 
Malimonkey: I was sent back 5 months after I was wounded the first time. The war had killed, on a per capita equivalent with the US, 200,000 men in less than 24 months. It is why 16 year olds like me went to war instead of 18 as it is now in Israel. Can't complain, my father became a soldier at 11 and officialy at age 14. Israelis are tough in some ways I guess.
 
Well I have had three seizures in the last 6 weeks, which is unheard of me, and its been agreed that its the amitrip lowering my seizure threshold, as I upped the dose to 2 x 10mg and then suffered the seizures. So went down to 1 tablet tonight and going to see Dr Tomoz to talk about a taper plan as they won't me off it completely. But she said over phone she won't let me have gabapetin!

So my option now is opiates. I really hope she agrees to it, after all what the fuck else am I going to do!? I will not accept no, I can't go back to what I used to be like..... Well Tomoz I may find out, unless I gotta see pain clinic first.
 
pinkpapaver said:
GET BACK IN YER PETRI DISH. (my conjunctivitis)
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They won't understand you Pink. They only speak Conjuncavish. Bummer.

Is it just in one eye or both?

Ed: Ecote that sounds heavy. You're really going through it at the moment aren't you chuck? <3

Gabapentin and Pregablin both lower the seizure threshold. I take it the doc wont prescribe it because its addictive?
 
Yes I'm aware it can lower it, so I did think it was a bit strange. And I did mention it over the phone, she said she's explain in person, but she said it can lower the threshold in certain epilepsy. :?

Well in an hour I shall know a more. I'm just gonna be honest and frank.
 
My pain was nothing compared to some of the posts made here but that was no consolation at the time.
Practically all day yesterday I had a real bastard of a toothache.
Hoped my methadone might act as a painkiller but no joy so took two vallies and loads of painkillers but nothing would stop the awful pain.
It even started hurting inside my ear and underneath my eye. I didn't think I would be able to get to sleep but thankfully I fell asleep and when I woke up all signs of pain had disappeared so I just hope it doesn't return again.
 
Well it went fine. Dr was really nice, so gonna be my GP from now on. She went through my history, she was very understanding even with my past opiate addiction. She said she would ring neurology and pain clinic today or tomorrow to see where we can go with the pain from my back problem. She said it could be the gabapetin, or opiates but that would mean putting into place a set up where risk of abusing them as low as possible. So it could be slow release DHC, or giving a week supply at a time. But she said it would involve other folks.

So things look positive. Sorry if this boring.

<3
 
I've just done circuit training. I'm in agony in a good way. And I ran for a bus today. And it waited for me :) . Then it went the long way home. It had to go all the way to its terminus to pick up the passengers left behind by the next bus that had broken down. It started reversing back from the traffic lights, back to the stop I got on at so I need n't have ran. Bravo bus driver! I hope you're not reading this. The journey had the potential to be very painful.

If we lived in the woods and we were in pain we'd be gnawing bark or something. I had training for work today. That could have been painful too. Afterwards I looked at art.

^ that is not boring. That is the difference between man and animal. :)
 
I just don't see how Gabapentin is abusable. I took fistfuls with no effect, and no repercussions when I stopped taking them. Shit drug. For me. Great for Inso though.
 
pregabalin. is abusable. superior to gabapentin. I get it on prescription and basically just binge on the lot each month.
 
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