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The EADD Health, Sickness and Pain Thread - share what ails you here.

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No buzz as such, don't feel altered.

But I guess you got a point.

Well off to sleep I will try and see what happens when I wake up!
 
Hang in there ponti :( <3

Kay I need to vent. I just saw yet another new doctor for my neck today. Oh. My. God. I had to explain to him what tetrazepam was and why yes, it was indeed different from diazepam. Then I had to fucking point out the abnormalities on the xray. They're fucking obvious. Even I can see them. Every single doctor I've seen before saw them immediately so it's not as if I was imagining things. Fucking incompetent idiot. He asked me what the pain was and cut me off before I could explain half of it. Then he said I had to do an MRI because 'xrays are what they did 20 years ago, they don't show anything and I don't even know why you were asked to take one'. I just wanted to yell because you can fucking see something on it you prick.
Urghhhhhh. I called my mom up right after the appointment just to be able to yell about it to someone haha.
I'll shut up now. Needed to get that out of my system. How someone like that gets their license and is allowed to practice medicine is beyond me. An English & Philosophy undergrad shouldn't be telling a 50 year-old 'doctor' how to spell tetrazepam.
The one good thing is I showed him my current prescription, with codeine being one of the things I'd been getting, and he prescribed me DHC. Probably because he didn't know the difference but I'm not complaining about that part :p
 
A familiar tale, Pagey :\

Older doctors can often be very stuck in their ways I find. Very rigid-thinking and absolutely will not listen to anything the patient says. Very much from the "Doctor knows best" era. I find younger docs to be much more on the ball and willing to listen. Generally speaking.

As for having to explain drugs to medical staff, I once had to tell the ambulanceman what ketamine is. If I'd been more with it than I was (and that wasn't very with it at all after a bottle of gin and an accidental (and very large) inter-arterial shot of said ketamine) I'd've just pointed it out on the shelf given it's on the list of essential meds that all ambulances have to have on board by law. Wouldn't want to be in an accident and have the only ambulance crew in the country who'd never heard of ketamine turn up 8(

Oh, and bonus on getting DHC. It's quite a bit better than codeine in many ways. No "ceiling" dose and somewhat more potent to boot. My doc refuses to script me it for reasons best known to himself. He seems to have a blind spot with it. Possibly cos I've got such lengthy history of abusing it :\

Also, Ponti <3
 
Yeah that's true. Pretty ridiculous though. I've had some bad experiences with doctors before but this was a whole new level. At least I know from the start not to waste my time with him anymore.

Haha are you serious?! Man...well, all this is just confirming what I've seen on this site many times, that is that drug users often know a hell of a lot more about drugs than medical staff. Most of the time.

But yeah I'm pretty happy about the DHC, especially since I was having to take pretty ridiculous doses of codeine cuz of my tolerance. So that's good. Sucks you're refused it though, are you only being given codeine atm?
 
I get 30mg codeine phosphate pills plus 30/500 co-codamols as standard (alongside diazepam for muscle relaxation and anxiety and temazepam for insomnia) and can get naproxen if I ask for 'em since I stopped taking tramadol. Naproxen is better than I remember it being but is still pretty hard going on the stomach so can't take it all the time. Is just a stop-gap (hopefully) until I finally get my appointment at the pain clinic.

Am on my "fuck all" fortnight at the moment. No more codeine til maybe the end of next week... or the beginning of the week after if they won't let me have it a day or so early. Found a full box of naproxen yesterday which is taking the edge off but am missing me codeine :(

Would much rather have DHC and honestly don't get why he's so funny about scripting it. Got a funny feeling he's trying to hold back on the last one of the "minor" opies so the pain clinic don't have to jump up to morphine or more and can start me off on DHC. Still, would be an improvement over the codeine as long as it's dosed at a reasonable level.
 
Ugh. Well hopefully the people at the pain clinic will prove to be more understanding. You'd certainly expect them to. I'd heard the waiting lists for those last forever though, are you gonna manage to be seen soon? :\

You taking a break from codeine intentionally? Because well if your script ran out that's when Nurofen Plus always comes in handy. But good for you if you're having a quick detox session, I'm sure you'll be glad you did it when next week comes around :)

Yeah, I mean if it's bad to the point that you have to go through a pain clinic you'd think he'd at least give you DHC. Not as if you were asking for a heroin prescription or something. I'm quite surprised this guy scripted me DHC though considering how not seriously he seemed to be taking me. But hey, can't complain.
 
It is kinda odd my doc will script codeine but not DHC. Can only really assume it's cos he thinks the supposed "ceiling dose" of codeine will stop me from asking for me script to be upped all the time. Hohum.

Am on me "fuck all fortnight" cos the codeine barely lasts the first half of the month. There's no way I could afford to buy enough OTC codeine/DHC pills to be equivalent so just have to put up with it for now :\

But on the plus side. it does keep my tolerance in check... not that I get enough for that to be much of an issue anyway 8)

Have been on the pain clinic waiting list for a good six months already. I live in the middle of nowhere though so is a travelling clinic. Is only within reachable distance of me one day a month so is a fukkin nightmare to get an appointment on that one day when every pain patient for miles around is doing the same thing :\
 
Yeah maybe. Although I've never actually found codeine to have that ceiling dose so I dunno. I mean I suppose DHC is a fair bit stronger but still, he could be more lenient...

Aah okay. Well good luck then :\

Oh shit, you're really not very lucky with all this are you? Well hopefully it'll be soon :(
 
pontifex01 said:
Can't get out of bed atm without reaching for the tramadol, gabapentin and diazepam I'm using to numb the horror that is grief.

Don't want to disrespect those of you going through serious physical distress, and I've had my share of it too, but I'd gladly trade it for this shit.
Fucking nightmare.
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Physical and psychological pain are very often interconnected, with one making the other worse, then back again in a vicious circle. I have experienced both to strong degrees on a long term basis and the despair brought on is very similar. So this would not be an inappropriate thread for you to post in.

Hang in there, it WILL get better <3

I am on the gabapentin and tramadol combo at work now and the two synergise very well together I think, both from pain and recreational perspectives.

Got a massive weed supply at home for the four day weekend too, which will help too :D
 
wcote, I find all opiates make me nice & warm (I'm someone who's naturally cold most of the time; my body temp is even a full degree lower than normal). Often I don't feel anything from opiates except pain relief and that warmth. The few times I've shot h I really did enjoy the warm rush, though otherwise it wasn't recreational.

Pagey, I'm glad to hear you got some pain meds (DHC is one of the few opiates I haven't tried...but I find codeine pretty decent if weak, despite the fact that I lack the enzyme that converts it to morphine). While that Dr sounds like a proper idiot, IME that's not necessarily a bad thing. Sometimes clueless drs are easily led, and will just prescribe you what you ask for, especially if you obviously know what you're talking about. Not always - some drs feel threatened by knowledgeable patients -but some are happy to have the patient call the shots. I wouldn't write this guy off necessarily.

If it's not a hassle, get the MRI, which will show him you're cooperating & trying to figure out what's really wrong, not just seeking meds. Also, drs can better justify opiate prescription if they ever come under suspicion when backed by recent xrays/MRIs, so that could be a big part of why he's asking for MRIs; xrays from another Dr & another country don't cover him legally. I'd recommend you make an appt for around when you'll run out of the DHC, then tell him how much it helped or didn't help and as necessary ask for higher dose/more pills, or a stronger opiate altogether. IME prescribing opiates on the first visit is a very good sign. It's something you can work with, until you've built up a good relationship and he feels comfortable prescribing you meds that will treat your pain properly.

Btw, you can thank me for the DHC, prayer works I tell ya! ;) :D
 
DHC under rated in my view!

Yes I remember going to a epilepsy DR and he wanted to put me on a benzo! I was 18 my mum was with me, we both gave that WTF look. No reason, just change it!

So just gotta keep on trucking till you find the right DR.
 
DHC's not bad, it's considerably stronger than codeine and it has less of the unpleasant side effects so I'm pretty happy about it. You're right, definitely a good sign he prescribed it on the first visit - I'm glad I thought to show him my old prescription! But yes. Maybe I can 'take advantage' of his ignorance hah. I was particularly annoyed cuz he was almost talking to me like I was an idiot - I asked him if there was any way I could be scripted tetrazepam again because it was one of the most effective meds (and I genuinely did use to get it) and he answered 'I don't want to give you codeine and diazepam (yes he called it diazepam) because they would give you sleep apnea which means you stop breathingi n your sleep, which is very dangerous because you're sleeping'. He literally said that. :|

Yeah, the MRI's a bit of a pain - I've done them before and they were inconclusive, which I told him, but I'll cooperate.

And thank you then fairnymph! I owe you one ;) pray for a diacetylmorphine script now? =D <3
 
Well just in case you don't know, never have NSAIDs on an empty stomach, but saying that some people can deal with them, some can't.

Your GP should be able to give you something to stop your stomach hurting, not PPIs something else
 
Ya. Have been careful to only use only after a meal but have been on naproxen before years ago and it ruined me gut within a week - doubled up in pain and puking blood frequently. Vile stuff. Have stomach problems anyway (had an ulcer for years which may or may not have returned recently) so am also scripted omeprazole and fuckloadsa antacids. Naproxen really is scraping the barrel for me. Only went along with it cos it always pays to show willing even when you know it's not gonna work out.
 
Naproxen is terrible

When I tried to get ahead of myself in my Yoga Class and basically show off in front of all the fit birds I did my hip in, they gave me that, it was pants.

Took a couple of doses, gave up on it and then just got the Jill Miller DVD and worked my hip back to health.
 
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