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The EADD aMT Thread ver: 2

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Much easier. Less than MDMA, which is the easiest out of your list. It can race a bit when coming up, but that's about it.

Beaten.

It mustn't affect blood pressure too much, as you're never aware of your heart beat, whereas with meph and coke it would be pretty high.
 
RLP said:
Anyone noticed the sudden surge in the past couple of weeks of vendors stocking and advertising aMT?
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It's going to get banned really quick, I can almost guarantee that being that it's already a scheduled drug elsewhere.

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A resting heart rate of 120BPM is pretty high for me... My pulse doesn't go above 90 when I take methylphenidate or amphetamine usually.
 
I am really concerned it will get banned in the end... I dnt see why because in moderation and care it's one my favourite chems, no it doesn't have that mind blowing euphoria but MDMA feels fake too me amt just feels so natural :)
 
Fantastic, Yet another chem being banned. I'm gonna have to try this before it gets banned. I just hate being forced into something I want to try just because it might get banned. Suppose I can just order a bunch and keep it locked away for when I do fancy it.
 
Medi57 said:
It definitely interacts with SSRIs friend had the sane dose as me and ga to be restrained for a good six hours. Says she had an amazing time but running around nude in public tends to draw attention to the fact that you are on drugs.
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Interesting. I'd be inclined to think it would have had the opposite effect, as seen with MDMA.

I can't think what an SSRI could do to potentiate AMT.
 
Im going to give AMT one more try. A 20mg dose taken late afternoon at some point in the future. If the side effects are too great for me again, Ill flush the rest.
 
ugh1979 said:
Interesting. I'd be inclined to think it would have had the opposite effect, as seen with MDMA.

I can't think what an SSRI could do to potentiate AMT.
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aMT doesn't work the same as MDMA, from what I know. I don't think it gets into the synapse in a way that an SSRI would block it.
 
I have noticed I am alot more wary with it due too it's stimulating effects, I suffer pretty bad anxiety nowadays so I find that the come up causes alot more anxiety in me, it's when that passes I begin too feel great, it's an odd chemical for sure but way better than MDMA in my eyes! Still love md, but amt causes even more introspection for me and alot more of a fun night!
 
OK MDMA fell through until midweek,

So thought fuck it 30mg plugged for first time, have taken up to about 50mg orally before.

So far come up not any stronger or quicker (plugged at about 4pm)....first time plugging anything....quite strange to say the least!

I have never suffered from nausea yet (orally) just the shits! Please god let plugging reduce the shits....as I have a night out planned ahead.

Anyone tried it with Methylone? Thinking of dosing some Methylone later on with some friends...just wondering about the MAOI effects? Maybe dose slightly less Methylone?
 
Just had a tasty dose of amt. swirled it around with a gulp of beer, tasted great=D
Kicking in after half hour not experienced these 2 hour comeup people talk about. Maybe it's becuase I just dab it instead of wrapping it in a rizla and all that malarky. Feel great right now, pretty intense come-up. Gonna be a good night:D
 
ugh1979 said:
Interesting. I'd be inclined to think it would have had the opposite effect, as seen with MDMA.

I can't think what an SSRI could do to potentiate AMT.
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SSRIs (Selective Seretonin Reuptake Inhibitors) work by (as the name suggests) inhibiting the reuptake of seretonin to the pre-synaptic cell. This means there is more of it in the synapse for post-synaptic receptors to bind with.

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MAOIs (Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors) work by (again funnily enough) inhibiting Monoamine Oxidase. Monoamine Oxidase is an enzyme that breaks down Monoamine transporters in the brain (amongst other things).

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Generally speaking this means Serotonin, Dopamine, Norepinephine & plasma membrane monoamine transporter.

MAO-A is what is usually inhibited by antidepressant (MAOI based) this relates to serotonin, epinephrine and norepinephine inhibition.


The using both SSRIs & MAOIs means you are compounding the amount of serotonin in your brain exponentially.

This leads to serotonin syndrome.


The SSRIs & MDMA phenomenon that means they seem to make it not work as well, in my opinion is due to receptor downregulation thanks to the SSRIs increasing the levels of serotonin in the brain over time. (another reason why I disagree with their use, but I won't get into that.)
 
botfly said:
Just had a tasty dose of amt. swirled it around with a gulp of beer, tasted great=D
Kicking in after half hour not experienced these 2 hour comeup people talk about. Maybe it's becuase I just dab it instead of wrapping it in a rizla and all that malarky. Feel great right now, pretty intense come-up. Gonna be a good night:D
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What dosage?

I'm wishing I plugged more....just played it cautious in case new method of taking knocked me for six! Maybe try swirling some with beer for a quick come up!

Don't know why I even bothered trying to get the MDMA, just now this feels bliss!

Just a pity folk I'm out with tonight are like "aMT what? nahh don't want to try any of that plant food nonsense give me some MDMA"...
 
OrdeM said:
What dosage?

I'm wishing I plugged more....just played it cautious in case new method of taking knocked me for six! Maybe try swirling some with beer for a quick come up!

Don't know why I even bothered trying to get the MDMA, just now this feels bliss!

Just a pity folk I'm out with tonight are like "aMT what? nahh don't want to try any of that plant food nonsense give me some MDMA"...
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lol yeah I get that, someone told me today that aMT is alloy cleaner wtf?

Not sure what dose I had probably 40mg or bit more? Don't have scales but it was say a small pile the size of a pinky finger nail. as long as you've tested it for allergies then I say it's quite forgiving dosage wise. But obviously don't be an idiot and take the piss with some huge pile, use common sense. YMMV is true, just start out low and work your way up to find your comfort zone instead of delving into the deep-end right away.
this 250mg i bought has lasted ages so it's a good investment! I don't seem to get any of these tolerance issues, each trip is more introspective and profound than the last. There is bliss at times but mainly theres a real sense of learning with it. No real pushyness or owt like I'd expect lsd or shrooms to be like but it's there if you want it. Everything is breathing as I type. But with a warm fuzzy glow to it:)

It's not a party drug like meph-heads are looking for. It is a more meaningful experience. Small doses are good for social situations because of its stimulant properties but a high dose will leave you laid back in your chair contemplating life while getting nice warm rushes. It's kind of mongy in higher doses so it's not really one for the dancefloor lol.
 
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Treacle said:
aMT doesn't work the same as MDMA, from what I know. I don't think it gets into the synapse in a way that an SSRI would block it.
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I'm pretty sure it's a monoamine releaser that causes 5HT (serotonin) release along with release of DA and NE, similar to methamphetamine (it's likely also neurotoxic, as alpha-Ethyltryptamine causes long term reduction in serotonin with use too). Not to be consumed with an MAO-I unless you want to die of serotonin syndrome. It's probably somewhere more toxic than MDMA and similar in toxicity to methamphetamine/MDA if I had to guess, but we won't really know until someone properly evaluates it.
 
Anyone have any experience of smoked aMT? I feel the duration might be a bit shorter, which could come in handy. Also, would it be possible to vaporise the HCl or would it need to be the freebase?
 
i actaully dont like vaporising aMT, it comes on slightly quicker, tho it is definately more speedy and less trippy thats the best i can describe it and it does have a shorter duration.. much better taken orally, tho i havnt tried rectal yet bit scared of gettting addicted to stciking my finger up my arse :\=D

PS. shambles will tell you otherwise, he loves vaping aMT , i wanna smoke it with him :D <3
 
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Medi57 said:
The SSRIs & MDMA phenomenon that means they seem to make it not work as well, in my opinion is due to receptor downregulation thanks to the SSRIs increasing the levels of serotonin in the brain over time. (another reason why I disagree with their use, but I won't get into that.)
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The reason MDMA doesn't work on SSRIs is because the MDMA needs to enter the synapse through the transporters that the SSRI is blocking. :)
 
nuke said:
It's probably somewhere more toxic than MDMA and similar in toxicity to methamphetamine/MDA if I had to guess, but we won't really know until someone properly evaluates it.
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Seriously? I didn't know it was neurotoxic at all. Is there any evidence of this? Also, is neurotoxicity from MDMA/MDA etc. even noticeable in the grand scheme of things? Is it bad enough to be relevant? I've hammered both, and not noticed any problems. Surely depression would be the first thing you'd notice? Nice to have an ADDer in here to answer some questions. :)
 
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