Itsgoneundertheboa
Bluelighter
I think it's important we cover low and short dose experience, not everyone will be able to consider a 2 day one. Also what is it like for a relative inexperiened user without knowledge of other RC or stims generally.
So the question I had for this compound was how much and how long does it take to return to baseline after a small amount of vaping.
Personal reason for taking stims - simply a happy day of seeing life from another angle. I'm an adrenaline junkie and love to experience new things. My usual dopamine rush is exercise. I have no reliance except tobacco (I'm dumb).
10 am 10mg vaped. Pleasant stimulation (albeit vape technique was poor due to lack of experience). The end of the cold and heavy head immediately disappeared and it felt like a good day.
11 am felt desire to re dose 10 mg vape. increased stimulation and some euphoria.
On both vapes there was no huge intense feeling of hit and rush, although technique and mg could well be to blame.
I can only describe it as a creeper buzz; its there you are definately altered in state but it's very manageable. You can almost forget it's there to then do something or think something to realise you are definitely not baseline. I also found on both vaped there are two effects. First is the initial then a gradual brain activity increase over a 15 minute period.
Arousal I concur with FUBAR. It definitely has a 'let's get mucky' vibe. As well as increased communication, at least in the up and plateau stage.
As sprout suggests this is a "mellow" stim. It's gives a smooth experience, not manic like amphet. It's certainly a creative and allows focus during initial up and plateau. At low dose it is everyday functional, to a degree, although driving would not be recommended.
You essentially get on with stuff, none of the what was I doing or going to do just very focused (sometimes to much focus) and with higher energy levels but not intense and you are more than likely to sit than be rushing around having to do stuff. Time does get away from you due to the focus on task aspect.
There was a desire to vape again at 12 am however decided against due to responsibility later in the day.
Come down was smooth and began at 12 am, almost as if I accepted there was no more today.
3 pm had to leave the house and be driven and as soon as the environment changed I realised I was still stimulated and under the effect. Speed in the car felt noticeable slower than it actually was and I also noticed that my vision was centering more on the immediate 20 - 30 metres in front of the car rather than horizon. I had to interact with others and although on a comedown I had no problems interacting and coversing.
4 pm on return home there was a noticeable sketchy feeling of crash, nothing harsh just the knowing and a desire to smooth the crash with alcohol and weed.
4.30 pm Alcohol actually bought back stimulation and the bottle disappeared a lot faster than usual with less effect.
5 pm Weed for me clearly increases thought process. After first spliff there was an increase in negative thinking. Not neccesarily anxiety but considering prior experience believe at higher longer dose there may will be a negative reaction for me. However unlike my experiences with amphetamine my brain stays rational and works quickly through the anxiety recognising that it is a drug induced irrationality.
Food - snacking is possible throughout but the actual feeling of hunger / wish to eat is greatly reduced. After 9 hours from dose a light meal was possible and enjoyable.
Music - definitely an increased affinity to music and listening to one song before and after delivered differing levels of appreciation
Smell - I had increased sense of smell even with a cold. I smelt things I had not realised were in my environment without IE a radiator warming up!!
In all I find the comedown a bit like waves of feelings some good some bad but at these low doses manageable.
In conclusion there is a definite stimulation for at least 6 hrs after vaping and I would even say 8 hours there was minor residual.
After 12 hours since first vape sleep was possible and in fact good with little restless or dreaming.
It is never going to be a replacement drug for another it simply adds more of a choice. Nor will I go for mammoth sessions. It's just a drug I know i can enjoy from time to time when I have a day of wanting to have an experience, although I can see the need to be very careful and consider BEFORE outset what you want to achieve from it. IE if you don't plan then it will plan for you.
One thing I would say if I didn't have responsibility today I would definitely have repeated the experience which perhaps confirms other reports IE its not essential but Moreish.
So the question I had for this compound was how much and how long does it take to return to baseline after a small amount of vaping.
Personal reason for taking stims - simply a happy day of seeing life from another angle. I'm an adrenaline junkie and love to experience new things. My usual dopamine rush is exercise. I have no reliance except tobacco (I'm dumb).
10 am 10mg vaped. Pleasant stimulation (albeit vape technique was poor due to lack of experience). The end of the cold and heavy head immediately disappeared and it felt like a good day.
11 am felt desire to re dose 10 mg vape. increased stimulation and some euphoria.
On both vapes there was no huge intense feeling of hit and rush, although technique and mg could well be to blame.
I can only describe it as a creeper buzz; its there you are definately altered in state but it's very manageable. You can almost forget it's there to then do something or think something to realise you are definitely not baseline. I also found on both vaped there are two effects. First is the initial then a gradual brain activity increase over a 15 minute period.
Arousal I concur with FUBAR. It definitely has a 'let's get mucky' vibe. As well as increased communication, at least in the up and plateau stage.
As sprout suggests this is a "mellow" stim. It's gives a smooth experience, not manic like amphet. It's certainly a creative and allows focus during initial up and plateau. At low dose it is everyday functional, to a degree, although driving would not be recommended.
You essentially get on with stuff, none of the what was I doing or going to do just very focused (sometimes to much focus) and with higher energy levels but not intense and you are more than likely to sit than be rushing around having to do stuff. Time does get away from you due to the focus on task aspect.
There was a desire to vape again at 12 am however decided against due to responsibility later in the day.
Come down was smooth and began at 12 am, almost as if I accepted there was no more today.
3 pm had to leave the house and be driven and as soon as the environment changed I realised I was still stimulated and under the effect. Speed in the car felt noticeable slower than it actually was and I also noticed that my vision was centering more on the immediate 20 - 30 metres in front of the car rather than horizon. I had to interact with others and although on a comedown I had no problems interacting and coversing.
4 pm on return home there was a noticeable sketchy feeling of crash, nothing harsh just the knowing and a desire to smooth the crash with alcohol and weed.
4.30 pm Alcohol actually bought back stimulation and the bottle disappeared a lot faster than usual with less effect.
5 pm Weed for me clearly increases thought process. After first spliff there was an increase in negative thinking. Not neccesarily anxiety but considering prior experience believe at higher longer dose there may will be a negative reaction for me. However unlike my experiences with amphetamine my brain stays rational and works quickly through the anxiety recognising that it is a drug induced irrationality.
Food - snacking is possible throughout but the actual feeling of hunger / wish to eat is greatly reduced. After 9 hours from dose a light meal was possible and enjoyable.
Music - definitely an increased affinity to music and listening to one song before and after delivered differing levels of appreciation
Smell - I had increased sense of smell even with a cold. I smelt things I had not realised were in my environment without IE a radiator warming up!!
In all I find the comedown a bit like waves of feelings some good some bad but at these low doses manageable.
In conclusion there is a definite stimulation for at least 6 hrs after vaping and I would even say 8 hours there was minor residual.
After 12 hours since first vape sleep was possible and in fact good with little restless or dreaming.
It is never going to be a replacement drug for another it simply adds more of a choice. Nor will I go for mammoth sessions. It's just a drug I know i can enjoy from time to time when I have a day of wanting to have an experience, although I can see the need to be very careful and consider BEFORE outset what you want to achieve from it. IE if you don't plan then it will plan for you.
One thing I would say if I didn't have responsibility today I would definitely have repeated the experience which perhaps confirms other reports IE its not essential but Moreish.
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). Btw, i do that length of binge fairly regularly anyway - 3fpm is just the current thing i'm using - it doesn't make me binge; i'm sure it's possible to do this without a binge ensuing.
