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The drugs policy don't work it just makes it's worse

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Ismene

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Interesting insight into how the filth are using drugs as the cheap and cheerful way to "solving crime".

Evidence is mounting that our drugs laws are not working.

New analysis from Release and the London School of Economics shows beyond doubt that the way in which they are implemented is highly discriminatory, ineffective, and counterproductive. Hundreds of millions of pounds of taxpayers’ money are spent every year on arresting and processing people for possessing drugs, with no discernible impact on drug markets or levels of use. Meanwhile, thousands of otherwise law-abiding people receive criminal records, and many poor and minority communities deal daily with the feeling that the police are unfairly targeting them.

The Release/LSE report makes a persuasive case that the main reason police forces remain addicted to low-level drug policing (172,400 people were dealt with by the police in 2010 for possession of drugs – a 235 per cent increase over the previous 10 years), is that they give beat officers and managers an easy route to hitting targets for “solved” crimes.

We have seen in recent years a significant fall in cannabis use, but rises in the use of many new synthetic substances. Supporting the Release/LSE argument that these trends have nothing to do with the deterrent effect of arrests, the most significant drops in cannabis use occurred between 2004 and 2009, when cannabis was temporarily downgraded to a Class-C drug.

Mike Trace is a former deputy drugs czar; Caroline Lucas is a Green Party MP

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices...nt-working-its-time-to-change-it-8788232.html
 
Drug politics failed so far, if we see it from our side, but if we look behind the scene, this drug politics they make is very profitable for a few people who are in controll. They are not making the law more strict to defend your healt. They are making the law more strict on the drugs so their price will go up, or at least NOT go down, and they can put in jail any dealer which would gain dangerously high ammount of money. There is a nice ladder going from the simple dealer up to the members of the current political party. Let's see there is a local dealer in a disco or pub, if he don't want to get arrested and do the business somewhat "legally" he or the club will pay to the local police head officer to keep a closed eye on this. Now if the head officer wants to keep his job, he will pay some money to the secretary of interior. Well this is who drug scene is working in Hungary, and probably in many other places as well.
There is still hope, I see nice new laws in USA about the weed and in New Zealand about the designer drugs.
 
parttime crackhead said:
You're probably right actually. I'm just thinking it's not there because you never hear of anyone successfully bribing a copper like you can in so many other countries.
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That's low level corruption that usually only happens in developing countries due to the extremely low wages the average police are on.

Over here we're one of the most corrupt countries on the planet but you'll never manage to bribe a cop on the street, corruption is endemic at the high level, when it comes to government contracts, construction, waste disposal but you won't get out of a roadside DUI test by trying to give a copper a couple of hundred euros.
 
Mental Kenny said:
I think it is, maybe less in a less open manner than places like Brazil, Mexico or eastern Europe but the corruption is there
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Of course it is corrupt, Mental Kenny is bang on.
Money & we are talking international cartel level here can buy you anything & I mean anything.
 
The other month it was in the news paper that the top bankers were all doing coke... with our money... so of course there is corruption... Mainly at the top of the web
 
That drug programme on BBC3 with Stacey Dooley clearly showed how corruption works in the Ukraine.
The customs officer bloke couldn't even keep a smile off his face when he said that no drugs were passing through the Ukrainian border controls.
Where ever there is money to be made there will always be someone willing to turn a blind eye for a bit of cash especially in poor countries.
 
Hangover said:
The other month it was in the news paper that the top bankers were all doing coke... with our money... so of course there is corruption... Mainly at the top of the web
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Most actually dont, a few do . But if your say a bog standard analyst you wouldnt be caught dead doing coke on a night out in case it gets back to a managing director

If your entertaining clients then anything goes . But for the most part banking has been taken over by nerds with physics PHD's who can crack out something on matlab in 15 minutes at 3pm when a deal is dependant on it

No time for hangovers in the business thesedays really
And if your starting out you WILL literally work till you drop

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/slavery-in-the-city-death-of-21yearold-intern-moritz-erhardt-at-merrill-lynch-sparks-furore-over-long-hours-and-macho-culture-at-banks-8775917.html
 
Bodda said:
Yeah I saw that too, notice the mention of krokodil in the UK :(
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Yeah I did hear it get mentioned about Krokodil in the UK.
Can't see many people wanting to do it though as it's easy to get heroin which gives a longer 'high' than Krokodil and is nowhere near as dangerous.
Those guys on the programme who were cooking up & injecting Krokodil were a right state weren't they.
That is one drug I certainly have no interest in trying.
 
knock said:
I don't understand that story, it says he was working "until 6am" three days in a row but it doesn't say what time he started. If he was starting at 8am, for example, then surely they would say he was working 22 hours a day?
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If you read down he was in all probability on the magic roundabout

Basically in the office at 7 ( or 6 if he was working on a currency desk) work till 5am , get the short ride home to bethnal green , quick shower and bowl of alpen and then same cab takes you back to the office again

I was really lucky I did my magic roundabout days in San Francisco , a glorious place to spend a summer :)
Did pull about 11 all nighters in an entire summer placement , but I was working in emerging markets which is not nearly as intense as distressed debt or FX desk
 
Bodda said:
Nothing wrong with Datura, I am speaking from personal experience too.
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Heard mixed stuff about it, of course you always get horror stories with every drug

Mostly scare stories about datura though probably, ie people cutting their knobs off on it
 
knock said:
I don't understand that story, it says he was working "until 6am" three days in a row but it doesn't say what time he started. If he was starting at 8am, for example, then surely they would say he was working 22 hours a day?
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Knock nobody starts work after 7 am at any investment bank so yeah basically he would have been working 23 hour days, and as a summer intern probably no lunch break either

Most desks are run by fingerprint now so even if you want to take a piss you have to " sign out" with your thumb to even take a shit
 
The Liberal Media said:
Knock nobody starts work after 7 am at any investment bank so yeah basically he would have been working 23 hour days, and as a summer intern probably no lunch break either
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Well this isn't true as I worked for IBs, and I started after 7am :) I'm being pedantic, I was in IT, not the money side, but what you say is definitely not strictly true. This was in the days before retina scans at the coffee machines, though.

If he was working 23 hours a day why didn't the article just say that? It would be much more of a story that a vague "finished at 6am". Journos don't write things up to be less sensational then they really are.
 
If your an associate you basically have to be in by 7am knock
Most companies report earnings at 7am , cos it gives the major banks a 1 hour buffer to react and plan accordingly for when the markets open at 8am

This is London of course.
It depends on where you are of course as some places like Tokyo can keep certain markets open only from 10am to 3.30pm which is a much better lifestyle if your working there

off to the sushi bar as soon as your P/L report is done by 5pm !
 
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