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lol, yeah it looks dodge, the camel thing is the silk road logo.
 
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Looks like bitcoin is about to die with it..

http://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmir...-subpoenaed-by-new-yorks-financial-regulator/

oh dear I have a feeling the entire SR concept we will never see again in quite the same way.

I hear also Atlantis has pulled the plug. I think many BTC and LTC buyers and sellers got scammed with the collapse.


However... good point about the Camel Logo!! I wonder if we might see a new rise kind of similiar to Pirate Bay and Kick Ass Torrents??

I have a feeling with the attacks now on BTC I think the SR days are seriousley over. Just my thoughts..

Finally this is a great read:

United States of America vs Ross William Ulbricht

aka (Dread Pirate Roberts)
aka (DPR)
aka (Silk Road)

http://www1.icsi.berkeley.edu/~nweaver/UlbrichtCriminalComplaint.pdf

Yikes!! That guy has one almighty hole he has dug for himself..
 
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This is also interesting:

The speculations of the downfall of DPR..

1. Posted Gmail address containing his real name using same forum account handle used to advertise for SR when it started.
2. Logged into the VPN used to access SR and his gmail address from the same IP. I repeat, he did NOT use Tor to administer SR.
3. Use same public wifi to access internet 500ft from his house.
4. Disclosed that his timezone was PST in a message.
5. Wrote in his linkden profile that he had left his field to focus on "creating an economic stimulation designed to give people a first-hand experience of what it would be like to live in a world without systemic use of force by institutions and government".
6. Ordered fake ID's internationally to his home address (to setup more SR servers). The fake id's contained his picture, which considering what they were to be used for doesnt make any sense.
7. Told the DHS when they showed up at his door for the fake IDs that "anyone can go onto SILK ROAD and order fake ids".
8. Solicited the hitman "redandwhite" for fake ID's using his DPR account. Hitman obviously FED/RAT.
9. Asked on clearnet helpsite Stackoverflow for help with programming for a hidden service.
10. Changed his real name to a pseudonym a minute before asking.
11. Used code that he posted on Stackoverflow in SR's code.
12. Increased ire of LEO by doing a Forbes interview. Revealed too much about his character.


I look at this lot and it cries out rather silly and naive student. I thought we were dealing with a gang of sketchey Russians operating out of a Shed in Africa on a Satellite uplink.

Not someone logging into SR admin via his local wifi connection in California LOL.
 
Seems so odd that a person who ran such a high profile illegal website such as SR that emphasised anonymity and security features would be so silly/blaze in so many things. And why would he stay based in America living in a place with a bunch of other people? Surely he should have gone and lived in Sweden or someplace like that, you'd think he would have had enough money to go anywhere in the world and buy a decent place for himself.
 
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Or... maybe it's still the same owner and he doesn't want any charges that may be filed to include all past transactions on the site. I haven't read the article, nor am I that interested - I think it will turn into a honeypot eventually, if it hasn't already, and the owner would be "smart" to sell, or at the very least, say that he/she has sold it every few years.

There are some articles out there which elude to the identity of DPR, I won't go into detail, but if I were him/her (I wish), then I'd want people to think that I'd sold it as well.
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I hate to toot my own horn... oh who am I kidding, lol. I think I was pretty spot on with my drunken ramblings.
 
poledriver said:
Seems so odd that a person who ran such a high profile illegal website such as SR that emphasised anonymity and security features would be so silly/blaze in so many things. And why would he stay based in America living in a place with a bunch of other people? Surely he should have gone and lived in Sweden or someplace like that, you'd think he would have had enough money to go anywhere in the world and buy a decent place for himself.
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How easy is it to turn millions of dollars of bitcoins into cash? Especially if you've got no prior experience or connections in money laundering?
 
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How easy is it to turn millions of dollars of bitcoins into cash? Especially if you've got no prior experience or connections in money laundering?
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No idea, wouldnt there be ways of doing it if your business ran around that kind of thing? He was dealing with it all the time, apparently paying workers 1-2k per week etc, surely there must be ways to do it, ie sell them to someone else for less and obtain cash or something.
 
Thats a good article that christ posted the url to.

I think from what I just read before in that article DPR paid quite a bit of cash to have two different people taken out, if you can believe all that, and I dont think he paid in bitcoins? So he seemed to have a bit of money anyway, enough not to be in America and sharing with 2 others and sitting in his 'bedroom on the computer all the time' as the housemate said...?
 
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As wikileaks, snowden and a bunch of others have shown us in the last couple of years, web anonymity is a fantasy nowadays.
The spooks have a lot of power in these instances.

Welcome to the brave new world of police state surveillance ("western democracy" style).
 
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Thats a good article that christ posted the url to.

I think from what I just read before in that article DPR paid quite a bit of cash to have two different people taken out, if you can believe all that, and I dont think he paid in bitcoins? So he seemed to have a bit of money anyway, enough not to be in America and sharing with 2 others and sitting in his 'bedroom on the computer all the time' as the housemate said...?
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First hit was a wire transfer - second was Bitcoins, there is a link to the actual blockchain transfer somewhere (aplogies if that's the wrong terms, I'm no expert) but you can see that a large amount of bitcoins, the same amount the second "hit" was for was transferred from 1 account to the other. That's the beauty of Bitcoins, they are anonymous, but they are always there. They're part of the "chain". You can do some serious deanonymization just from the blockchain itself from what I've read.
 
So the money has been traced but how do we know its not just him giving in to the blackmail to keep them from releasing the customers info?
The whole lot smells of disinformation to me. Put people off the online scene, make them think its no cleaner or safer than buying from the street or from real life organized crime groups. Hopefully its been going on long enough that people have enough confidence to stick with it and go through the alternate sites offering the same service.
 
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