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The Drug's in the Mail - The Silk Road and our very own Tronica!

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bmxxx said:
theoretically you could, but silk road's main selling point to the general end-user population is a setup where feedback allows somewhat objective analysis of a seller and their product, if you go to lesser sites that key point is lost.
(incidentally, this is what aus authorities seek to disrupt, as it is <clearly> the most effective way to get at SR. The "all things vice" or whatever website has an article elaborating on this)
((if silk road goes down, yes the next-best would take its place but that's not a smooth transition like it would be if these were open markets. SBR or whatever wouldn't just see an increase comparable to what SR lost, not immediately anyways, and whatever was successful in hurting SR would be infinitely more successful on a fledgling alternative))
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they do have feedback on there actually, im not even trying to plug the site just pointing out what else is out there.
 
Same as tronicas article in a differing format - Also with the 9:01 min vid.

Dealers shed light on dark internet's drug trade

Users of the dark internet have shed light on their illegal trades on a growing online black market, which is helping more and more Australians to buy drugs and weapons.

A number of sites compete for the drug dollar online, selling drugs and sending them through the post to customers across the globe.

Customs spokesman Matt Wardell says the illegal trade has been linked to a spike in drug and weapons seizures at Australian mail centres.

"Certainly over the past 12 months, last financial year for example, we noticed a jump of more than 40 per cent in the number of small seizures made at mail centres across the country," he told 7.30.

"That's obviously got a lot to do with the increase in online trade.

"There's no question that it's become a more attractive way for people to try and import prohibited goods into the country - be they guns, be they drugs."

The Silk Road website - an eBay for drugs where encryption software allows vendors to be anonymously rated - is giving authorities a particular headache.

Bill, whose name has been changed, is a vendor on Silk Road who posts drugs to customers in Australia.

As a seller on the site he has access to some buyer information, and he says business Down Under is good.

There's no question that it's become a more attractive way for people to try and import prohibited goods into the country - be they guns, be they drugs.

Matt Wardell from Customs
"Australian traffic has double, tripled, quadrupled. There's more buyers, you can see them on the forums, you can see them on the posts," he said.

"Not only that, but in recent months there's been an American traffic explosion and that led to the site actually going down for a certain amount of time."

Nobody knows the identity or location of the founder of Silk Road, who goes under the pseudonym The Dread Pirate Roberts.

To protect its illegal trade, the site uses complex masking software and money exchanges.

Users have to download an encryption network, and the only money allowed is Bitcoin - an online currency that also hides purchasers' identities.

Computer expert Chris McDonald is not a Silk Road user but has studied the technology behind it and believes it is unbeatable.

"We're talking about tens of thousands, if not millions of years to break into these algorithms," he said.

"So for a small piece of data we have the traditional problem where if you spend more effort trying to break into an encrypted piece of data, then by the time you've successfully broken into the data, the data itself has no value."

But Customs and the Australian Federal Police are warning that sites like Silk Road only lead to jail.

Mr Wardell says there have been a number of successful prosecutions but could not say how many, saying there are too many agencies involved.

"It is a very big risk if you try to bring this stuff into the country," he said.

"There's a very big risk Customs and Border Protection will seize it at the border, you'll lose your money, you'll lose the goods and you may go to jail."

But Perth man Ryan West, 20, says that is not the case.

Mr West works as a storeman driving a forklift, but previously made a living buying MDMA - the main ingredient in ecstasy - from his bedroom.

He then sold it onto friends and acquaintances, who picked up the drugs from his house.

"Extremely profitable - $300 investment into $2,500 in a day," he said.

"It was very easy to resell. I was buying because it's very scarce here and everywhere around the world it's quite cheap."

His world of drugs and easy money came crashing down in August when authorities raided his house.

He was convicted of four charges, including intent to supply a prohibited drug, and placed on an intensive supervision order.

'Too easy'

Mr West says he was only caught because he was dealing drugs out of his house.

He says other users on Silk Road, who post drugs to their customers, run little risk of being caught.

"I was extravagant, I didn't care if I got caught, I wasn't covering my trails at all," he said.

"I was happy to get caught really because I was stuck in there anyway, I was stuck in dealing, it was too easy to do and too hard to get out of.

"Authorities will not be able to stop this. They can slow it down, but there's always going to be drugs in the mail one way or another."

Authorities will not be able to stop this. They can slow it down, but there's always going to be drugs in the mail one way or another.

Former Silk Road user Ryan West
That sentiment is echoed by Bill, who is not worried by the attention from Customs and believes Silk Road is the future of drug dealing.

"If Silk Road was shut down, people would simply transfer over to a new network," he said.

Mr Wardell says the anonymous nature of the dark internet brings bigger dangers than being arrested.

"You have no quality control when you're buying things from an online anonymous market place," he said.

"So not only are you breaking the law, but you're arguably taking a big risk with your own health.

"The argument about whether this is safer or more convenient doesn't really wash. It's still illegal and it's a big risk."

Despite that, there continues to be a demand for drugs and there are plenty of sellers ready to meet it.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-12-05/dark-internet-linked-to-drug-seizure-spike/4410872
 
LOL what ive found now is that a few of my druglove friends are addicted to that site that theyre spending most of their money on bitcoins everyweek, I myself checked it out and just lol'd really didnt find the need to buy anything since can source it locally prettymuch, sure the cheap prices are tempting but to me not worth getting busted for and lol I cant afford to get busted atm anyways hehe. Stay safe peoples!!

n.b. Tho I must admit there is now MORE different types of drugs avail in the local market scene especially LSD and MDMA powder+nBOME variants!, offtopic: the little prince OMG fun.
 
This Silk Road thingy a magigy

Actually heard about sl whilst in Laos in July.
I looked into it but to be honest it all seems very complicated to me. You have to install TOR browser which isn't so hard but the bit coin stuff... Too much much for this dumb shit. At this stage I don't care about arrests or whatnot but I doubt there is any tech support and I have enough issues running pro tools HD without the thing making me go all office space on it.

Would be nice to have a friend all over it though
 
Whoever stated SR had cheap prices must be paying thru their nose. Where I'm standing most of it seems over priced.
 
True. Very convenient for peeps who don't got the hook when they need a bite. I think its frosted flakes myself, but if folks are only trippin about the undercover element from LE then everyone is missing the BIG PICTURE. Funny too, I just found out about it today and was sooooo stoked at the thought of dreams coming true. I've got the RC racket figured out, and the purity of those turned me off the hippie bathtub crack people were pushing as molly, the drywall/inositol/ lidocaine mix these kids insist on calling cocaine, and the LAMEST excuse for acid I ever crossed paths with. Luckily this is good mushroom country, and I have legit vendors for RCs.
I stayed up all night getting downloads set up for the Silk Road, spent hours staring and scrolling through my options. Kid in a candy store, right? Not sure when exactly but I saw through the bullshit and woke up to a nightmare. Dreams come and gone in flash.


Doesn't it all seem too good to be true? Be cautious kids. Everything isn't always what it seems.
 
you talk funny.
anyways aside from seeming you've been up wayy too long, i've got no idea what you're trying to say, sorry.

but yes, of course caution is required in almost all things pertaining to drugs (whethr dangers of black markets and their effects, or dangers of the chemicals themselves. Not a carefree area in any way). And "too good to be true" if you're referring to LE-infiltration in places like SR then again, yes, of course. It's insane to think all kinds of gov agencies are not involved in something that is OPEN TO ANYONE and blatantly flaunting global law.
 
I was trying to say exactly that, the govt is involved...hell they started it, fund it and supply it....they've been controlling and supplying the drugs the whole time. It goes back to the LSD/mk-ultra experiments.
 
^ not likely my man, I don't know where you're getting that info from but it's pretty far off the mark. Not everything is a conspiracy!

Edit: sorry pole that wasn't directed at you, you definitely have your head screwed on right.
 
bigjon1420 said:
I was trying to say exactly that, the govt is involved...hell they started it, fund it and supply it....they've been controlling and supplying the drugs the whole time. It goes back to the LSD/mk-ultra experiments.
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untrue, plz stop spreading shit like that.
Funding it, supplying it, participating, etc, are attempts to influence/disrupt/exploit these chems and their markets. But man started it when he realized what intoxication was, and such men started these markets (tho at this point a huge % of the market is true industry, not just "user to user")
 
I've unapproved some posts here. We don't allow any discussion on the use of Silk Road, including instructions regarding bitcoins. Rules on BL are different from forum to forum, but in this silk road thread, we're being very careful not to be seen as helping or encouraging people to use silk road in any way.
 
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