8ft-Sativa
Bluelighter
Me to bro. I think it probably some kind of attack on the server going on atm.
It's happened in the past with Pirate Bay, it always bounces back though.
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Me to bro. I think it probably some kind of attack on the server going on atm.
It's happened in the past with Pirate Bay, it always bounces back though.
professionals use drugs too, y'know.
Mel22
Bluelight Crew
Not if you play it smart.
Firstly, no. I am not having any trouble reaching silk road because I haven't even thought of going there in months so I can't help you there. The error you're getting is a standard error if you use the Firefox browser.
I don't mean to sound rude, but what you said is kind of a contradiction. If you were a "professional", you shouldn't be mentioning that one site is your life line, you shouldn't mention you use the site at all, let alone on a public forum. If you have a lot to lose, it may not be a good idea to tell the world that you rely on it to live, it's not working, and ask the world for help. If I was any kind of agent/snitch/christian/asshole/whatever it would be too easy to simply put your mind at ease and then bust you.
A lot of people think that because Bluelight involves drugs, it's fine to trust everyone on here, score on here, treat everyone on here like brothers and shit. But the reality is, this is a harm reduction site. A lot of people have been helped by this site existing. Others are probably in jail because of this site. My point is, this site has a very noble purpose, which is to minimise harm. The mods do a great job, the guidelines state what is and is not allowed. Some people just say too much, in my opinion.
Sorry to hear about your difficulty with the internet. It could be a routing problem.
thestudent14
Bluelighter
I don't think Sustanons post was about professionals using drugs, he meant that if you have alot to lose the risk could likely be higher with SR opposed to a street dealer.
footscrazy
Bluelight Crew
Any further posts about accessing silk road or regarding tech issues will be unapproved. This isn't the place for it. This thread is already an anamoly on BL, and that kind of discussion makes it more likely this thread will be closed for good. Any kind of post which could help someone access SR (or are asking for help) should be avoided.
maybe true, but it's all debatable.
i mean - if a criminal record (or at least the risk of serious charges being brought against you) could seriously jeopardise the life you've chosen to live, the wise thing would be to stay away from illegal drugs and criminal activity altogether.
i would like to also reiterate what footscrazy has said above; this thread is on very thin ice as it is.
let's keep all discussion on how to use the silk road well away from this thread, if you please ladies and gents.
unfortunately addiction doesn't tend to follow the most rational paths of behaviour or life-impacting decisions.
this, of course, is assuming we are talking about "professional" in the conventional sense of the word.
I agree. I would just add that there are other places on the clearnet where people can discuss their access to (or lack of access) SR. Use them - Google is your friend
BlueHues
Bluelighter
Not to mention, if you do get caught, the penalties are much stiffer, at least here in the US.
Sustanon
Bluelighter
Yup, ud get an importation charge as well on top of that so its pretty serious but most people dont listen :S
thestudent14
Bluelighter
Do you guys remember how 4-mmc was legal in victoria but illegal to order it from over seas/have it imported, it dodged our normal analogue laws for some reason. At that point in time if I had used SR to get some from a local vendor could I have faced any legal trouble? I don't see what law I would have been breaking, just thinking in the future if a similar RC pops up that dodges the normal analogue laws that most RC's fall under. Then SR would be my best friend.
3 to the 3
Bluelighter
Tronica's efforts aside, the best HR advice regarding this thread is to avoid brain damage by not reading it at all.... 
8ft-Sativa
Bluelighter
Power in numbers!
yah it would be a good idea to shut this thread down IMO bringing a lot of attention to it
^ we couldn't possibly bring any more attention to SR than the global mainstream press has for over a year since this 'marketplace of illegal drugs' hit headlines across the world.
the issue here is much more to do with bluelight's regulations on 'sourcing'.
the words "silk road" are pretty much prohibited across the rest of the site (it is the context of highly-regarded aussie bluelighter Tronica's research and public media appearances that have led us to away from discussion of silk road talk being about sourcing). it is about way more.
but when people start talking about the specifics of technical problems with using SR, asking or giving advice on how to access it, or the risks involved in using it to purchase drugs and other such particulars - that is when the (admittedly blurry) line gets well and truly crossed.
there has been a lot of argument back and forward on this thread - and elsewhere - as to whether we should 'shut it down' or not.
it does seem that the discussion has been trending in the way we would prefer it not to for some time, but there are some pretty fascinating things about this phenomenon that don't relate to the pornographic pharmacopeia seemingly on offer.
also a lot of speculation, hearsay and bullshit.
frankly, i'm amazed the site itself has withstood it's emergence into public knowledge (and that of law enforcement, governments and other authorities) for so long. personally, i see that as the truly incredible thing about the silk road - what looked like a house of cards teetering on the edge of imminent bust/infiltration/destruction at the hands of the DEA or interpol still seems to be going strong well over a year after hitting the headlines.
we might be witnessing a revolution - one that has been courting attention all along, as opposed to trying to hide in the shadows.
¡Viva la Revolución!
the issue here is much more to do with bluelight's regulations on 'sourcing'.
the words "silk road" are pretty much prohibited across the rest of the site (it is the context of highly-regarded aussie bluelighter Tronica's research and public media appearances that have led us to away from discussion of silk road talk being about sourcing). it is about way more.
but when people start talking about the specifics of technical problems with using SR, asking or giving advice on how to access it, or the risks involved in using it to purchase drugs and other such particulars - that is when the (admittedly blurry) line gets well and truly crossed.
there has been a lot of argument back and forward on this thread - and elsewhere - as to whether we should 'shut it down' or not.
it does seem that the discussion has been trending in the way we would prefer it not to for some time, but there are some pretty fascinating things about this phenomenon that don't relate to the pornographic pharmacopeia seemingly on offer.
also a lot of speculation, hearsay and bullshit.
frankly, i'm amazed the site itself has withstood it's emergence into public knowledge (and that of law enforcement, governments and other authorities) for so long. personally, i see that as the truly incredible thing about the silk road - what looked like a house of cards teetering on the edge of imminent bust/infiltration/destruction at the hands of the DEA or interpol still seems to be going strong well over a year after hitting the headlines.
we might be witnessing a revolution - one that has been courting attention all along, as opposed to trying to hide in the shadows.
¡Viva la Revolución!
poledriver
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Dangerous new drugs sold on web 'silk road'
Amy Corderoy
Health Reporter
DANGEROUS new psychoactive drugs are emerging in Australia at a breathtaking rate, say experts conducting groundbreaking research into online drug sales.
The drugs can be toxic to the brain and are often untested on humans, and unsuspecting users are buying them without knowing what they contain or what effect they will have.
About four new chemical substances, and 10 retail outlets selling them to Australians, are emerging each month, Tasmanian researchers have found.
And research by the National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre has found that the "silk road", an online black-market trading site, is expanding at a similar rate.
A senior lecturer at the University of Tasmania, Raimondo Bruno, said the size of the online drugs market, and the risks posed by the drugs, scared him.
"People are dabbling in a wide range of substances we don't really have a lot of human data on," he said. "Some of these products are known to be neurotoxic, even in animals."
Dr Bruno said there appeared to be two types of sales: specific chemicals, for which more than 78,000 searches originate in Australia each month, and "blended" drugs, for which about 18,500 searches are made.
He said the blended drugs, sold under generic brand names, were particularly unpredictable. "Almost all the drugs we're talking about haven't had any history of human testing -
a couple are failed antidepressants or other drugs," he said."
Because the blends don't state the content, or they state misleading content, you can buy something one week and go back to the same seller and buy the same brand and it can be different."
Dr Bruno will present his research at the Australasian Professional Society on Alcohol and other Drugs Conference in Melbourne on Wednesday.
The executive director of the Australian National Council on Drugs, Gino Vumbaca, said the new drugs posed a significant risk, particularly as long-term health outcomes were unknown.
"A lot of these drugs are marketed as a legal alternative, and people think they're legal and that there's less risk," he said. "They assume it's gone through some kind of pharmaceutical procedure."
He said research indicated most of the new compounds were coming from China and India, and retailers knew if someone was hurt by their products there were plenty more users to take their place.
A researcher at the National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre at the University of NSW,
Joe Van Buskirk, who is also presenting at the conference, said he had found an average of about 15 new sellers a month on the silk road willing to ship drugs to Australia.
The silk road exists on what is known as the ''dark'' or ''hidden'' web, operating on a membership basis and using an alternative currency.
"In order to sell anything, or even buy anything, you have to gain the trust of the forums beforehand,'' Mr Van Buskirk said.
International and domestic sellers sold there, although international sellers offered cheaper prices.
He said the drugs sold tended to be older drugs such as cannabis, which he was surprised to find was the most common product.
Figures from the Australian Customs and Boarder Protection Service show cannabis is the second most common drug caught in cargo and postal importation,
with the number of captures increasing by 86 per cent in the past three years.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sc...ugs-sold-on-web-silk-road-20121118-29k71.html
Amy Corderoy
Health Reporter
DANGEROUS new psychoactive drugs are emerging in Australia at a breathtaking rate, say experts conducting groundbreaking research into online drug sales.
The drugs can be toxic to the brain and are often untested on humans, and unsuspecting users are buying them without knowing what they contain or what effect they will have.
About four new chemical substances, and 10 retail outlets selling them to Australians, are emerging each month, Tasmanian researchers have found.
And research by the National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre has found that the "silk road", an online black-market trading site, is expanding at a similar rate.
A senior lecturer at the University of Tasmania, Raimondo Bruno, said the size of the online drugs market, and the risks posed by the drugs, scared him.
"People are dabbling in a wide range of substances we don't really have a lot of human data on," he said. "Some of these products are known to be neurotoxic, even in animals."
Dr Bruno said there appeared to be two types of sales: specific chemicals, for which more than 78,000 searches originate in Australia each month, and "blended" drugs, for which about 18,500 searches are made.
He said the blended drugs, sold under generic brand names, were particularly unpredictable. "Almost all the drugs we're talking about haven't had any history of human testing -
a couple are failed antidepressants or other drugs," he said."
Because the blends don't state the content, or they state misleading content, you can buy something one week and go back to the same seller and buy the same brand and it can be different."
Dr Bruno will present his research at the Australasian Professional Society on Alcohol and other Drugs Conference in Melbourne on Wednesday.
The executive director of the Australian National Council on Drugs, Gino Vumbaca, said the new drugs posed a significant risk, particularly as long-term health outcomes were unknown.
"A lot of these drugs are marketed as a legal alternative, and people think they're legal and that there's less risk," he said. "They assume it's gone through some kind of pharmaceutical procedure."
He said research indicated most of the new compounds were coming from China and India, and retailers knew if someone was hurt by their products there were plenty more users to take their place.
A researcher at the National Drug and Alcohol Research Centre at the University of NSW,
Joe Van Buskirk, who is also presenting at the conference, said he had found an average of about 15 new sellers a month on the silk road willing to ship drugs to Australia.
The silk road exists on what is known as the ''dark'' or ''hidden'' web, operating on a membership basis and using an alternative currency.
"In order to sell anything, or even buy anything, you have to gain the trust of the forums beforehand,'' Mr Van Buskirk said.
International and domestic sellers sold there, although international sellers offered cheaper prices.
He said the drugs sold tended to be older drugs such as cannabis, which he was surprised to find was the most common product.
Figures from the Australian Customs and Boarder Protection Service show cannabis is the second most common drug caught in cargo and postal importation,
with the number of captures increasing by 86 per cent in the past three years.
http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sc...ugs-sold-on-web-silk-road-20121118-29k71.html
article about SR's recent "down time".......
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/21/3675278/silk-road-operator-says-fail-whale-not-feds-brought-down-notorious
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/21/3675278/silk-road-operator-says-fail-whale-not-feds-brought-down-notorious
My opinion on the status of this thread:
- it's really useful as a compendium of media interest in Silk Road
- it's interesting to read people's opinions on it and their reasons why they would avoid it (or use it)
- honestly, if you think this thread is drawing undue attention to SR, you have an inflated sense of Bluelight's importance... given the scope and size of other media outlets who have mentioned SR.
But please, let's not talk specifics or sourcing here.
More SR articles you may not have read which I found interesting:
http://allthingsvice.com/2012/11/16/what-the-hells-going-on-at-silk-road/
http://allthingsvice.com/2012/10/27...ement-using-creative-techniques-on-silk-road/
Also, if you haven't done it already, head to Global Drug Survey at http://www.globaldrugsurvey.com/mixmag2013/
Why do the survey? Because I managed to get a few questions in the survey on Silk Road: whether you've heard of it, whether you've used it, why or why not, and if yes, which drugs you have bought.
I messaged DPR on SR to inform him that it is possible there will be a few new people arrive at SR after completing this survey, if answering questions on the topic leads them to investigating it themselves. He responded (!) and said he would endeavour to ensure the site was ready and would be interested in seeing the results.
I'm particularly interested in the why or why not questions - and which drugs are purchased.
If you do sit down to complete the Global Drug Survey, be warned it may take you a long time if you have an extensive drug history. Ensure you have coffee/snacks at the ready
- it's really useful as a compendium of media interest in Silk Road
- it's interesting to read people's opinions on it and their reasons why they would avoid it (or use it)
- honestly, if you think this thread is drawing undue attention to SR, you have an inflated sense of Bluelight's importance... given the scope and size of other media outlets who have mentioned SR.
But please, let's not talk specifics or sourcing here.
More SR articles you may not have read which I found interesting:
http://allthingsvice.com/2012/11/16/what-the-hells-going-on-at-silk-road/
http://allthingsvice.com/2012/10/27...ement-using-creative-techniques-on-silk-road/
Also, if you haven't done it already, head to Global Drug Survey at http://www.globaldrugsurvey.com/mixmag2013/
Why do the survey? Because I managed to get a few questions in the survey on Silk Road: whether you've heard of it, whether you've used it, why or why not, and if yes, which drugs you have bought.
I messaged DPR on SR to inform him that it is possible there will be a few new people arrive at SR after completing this survey, if answering questions on the topic leads them to investigating it themselves. He responded (!) and said he would endeavour to ensure the site was ready and would be interested in seeing the results.
I'm particularly interested in the why or why not questions - and which drugs are purchased.
If you do sit down to complete the Global Drug Survey, be warned it may take you a long time if you have an extensive drug history. Ensure you have coffee/snacks at the ready
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