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i'm certainly willing to read the journal articles you clearly must have that demonstrate a correlation between vaccines and autism. so far, it looks like all you've got is rhetoric and random ass videos i'm not going to watch (cause again, i read and am HIGHLY uninterested in out of context videos or really any videos that don't have to do with skateboarding, guitar, and how we humans are monkeys, hominids, and apes.)

seriously, post up the good stuff... i can't find any scholarly articles demonstrating a solid link between the two.

aren't you in the states? they haven't had thiomersal in kids' vaccines since like the fucking late 90s, iirc.

yeah, i'm not going to blindly trust a blog post by a guy (who isn't an immunologist, child psychologist, etc.) that said the vaccines 'kill twice as many as they save'. find me a REAL journal article by REAL professionals with REAL doctorates and shit.

Multiple sources of authority. Head of CDC, head of Pharma companies, MSM anchors, the fucking president of the USA - all promised us that the vaccine would prevent spread of the virus.
Oh well, they lied about that.
They also lied about the efficacy
Lied about the legitimacy of the studies (wasn't tested on pregnant women for eg).
They lied about so many things but people still trust their products.
it's almost as though your association fallacy has no bearing on whether or not the vaccines are effective. it's almost as though the data doesn't give a fuck what the cdc or msm say. go figure.

A some of them deserve to die based on how stupid they are.
wow, holy shit... shame on you. i dunno why i'm surprised, but fuck, dude... what a cosmically shitty thing to say.
 
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I would say that there is actually definitely legitimate evidence for all sorts of things, which is substantially better than forming beliefs based on what you assume about the things you see around you, but that these days, it's very difficult to determine whether what you read or hear is legitimate, and it's a huge problem we're facing as a society.
Sure some things can be proved with legitimate evidence…but I think when it comes to politics or the people running this shit show of a country your not gonna get anything that you can call 100% true evidence, there is just to much bullshit and bias from journalist and miss information being sold to those journalist
 
Sure some things can be proved with legitimate evidence…but I think when it comes to politics or the people running this shit show of a country your not gonna get anything that you can call 100% true evidence, there is just to much bullshit and bias from journalist and miss information being sold to those journalist
When you understand the importance of propaganda, of information control, and the history behind the media companies and their direct links to the intelligence apparatus foundations, then hoping they're going to give you the whole picture is just absolute fantasy. People just don't want to hear that though. They don't want to believe the people with power have been conspiring over controlling their minds since before their grandparents were even born.

Despite the fact we've had numerous examples in the past two decades alone (including below) of the media outright lying to your face, people still want to hear the truth come from the TV screen. They're like hopeless alcoholics, believing they'll find salvation at the bottom of the bottle if they just keep on chugging along. People are intellectually cowardly and lazy, they don't want to think for themselves, because they've been programmed that way.. by the TV. It's a vicious circle of dependency and just as hypnotizing as any drug addiction that robs a person of the intuition needed to ever realize they are hopelessly addicted!

The mainstream media are about as congruent as the caption in the image below and the building just to the right of her head.

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I honestly think most people don’t care at all about politics, they just want to hear something they agree with and know there are people who are wrong while they are right, cause who cares about being right if there isn’t anybody that is wrong?…that’s why we are so easily manipulated, we’ve gone soft, we just want to watch tv and drink Starbucks after work, maybe it’s apathy or existential crisis, I dunno but I’m just getting sick of it
 
BTW this a word I use often so I need to know - does it go against the soyboy lefty rules of this forum to say retarded?
Just so ya know and to make things clear.........BL decided to take the word " retard " and decided it was a slur. Which it is and has been for 50 years or more. Mentally challenged people have been called that as the word actually means " to slow the growth of ". When we " retard " something we inhibit it's growth or slow it down by some process. So yeah, along with other slang terms that are only meant to hurt peoples feelings we included " retard " in that category.

I'm sure all the intelligent and know it all posters we have here in CEP/DIVE can use their imaginations and come up with a different term to hate on their fellow man/woman which seems to be the goal in this sub forum of BL. So yeah, from here on in the slurs will be deleted or edited and calling people stupid is right up there with the other words that are hateful.
 
i'm certainly willing to read the journal articles you clearly must have that demonstrate a correlation between vaccines and autism. so far, it looks like all you've got is rhetoric and random ass videos i'm not going to watch (cause again, i read and am HIGHLY uninterested in out of context videos or really any videos that don't have to do with skateboarding, guitar, and how we humans are monkeys, hominids, and apes.)
You're not intellectually honest or arguing in good faith.

seriously, post up the good stuff... i can't find any scholarly articles demonstrating a solid link between the two.
Do you at least admit that there's a strong correlation between the vaccine rollout and excess mortality?


yeah, i'm not going to blindly trust a blog post by a guy (who isn't an immunologist, child psychologist, etc.) that said the vaccines 'kill twice as many as they save'. find me a REAL journal article by REAL professionals with REAL doctorates and shit.
Dr Michael Yeadon - ex-Pfizer Chief Scientist

it's almost as though your association fallacy has no bearing on whether or not the vaccines are effective. it's almost as though the data doesn't give a fuck what the cdc or msm say. go figure.
I don't know why simple logic (liars and criminals are not to be trusted) escapes you.
If you're talking about the vaccines being effective = https://rumble.com/vnusrq-covid-vaccines-are-effective.html

wow, holy shit... shame on you. i dunno why i'm surprised, but fuck, dude... what a cosmically shitty thing to say.
It's called a Darwin Award. Get over it. Some people simply should not reproduce (luckily the majority of woke leftists these days are anti-natalist).
 
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i hate the motherfuckers who tried to starve my child and myself from making an income and i always will and i don't think i'll ever get over what was done to me and whoever else suffered over the last 2 years



and anytime this subject is brought upon me, and seen differently, it's going to be met with an angry and resentful tone until the day i die
 

Enforcing COVID-19 Vaccine Mandates For Home Health Agencies​


May 31, 2023

The U.S. Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services CMS will immediately stop enforcing the COVID-19 vaccine mandates for home health workers and other health care staff.


Normally, federal rules become effective 60 days after publication.


But because the PHE ended May 11, CMS will stop enforcing vaccine requirements before that point.


“Our decision to terminate the omnibus facility staff vaccination requirements in this final rule reflect our determination that the emergency circumstances which occasioned these vaccination provisions no longer exist,” CMS noted. “Since facilities are no longer operating under PHE circumstances, and considering the lower policy priority of enforcement within the remaining time, we will not be enforcing the staff vaccination provisions between now and 60 days from the rule’s publication.”








that was the last mandate left and they were still trying to enforce it on me just last and that article came out yesterday


so that's why ive been so pissed off about them trying to pull shit on me again at another job
 
"The anti-vax crowd that uses terms like “pure blood,” “vax-tard,” and other derogatory terms while almost exclusively perpetuating stories of vaccine injury/death really bothers me.

Yes, the shots are poison.
Yes, no one should ever get one.
Yes, absolutely, people have died and become injured as a result of them.
And YES, we should raise awareness to it.

But there are thousands and thousands of vaccinated people who’ve realized the mistake they’ve made. How do you think all of this comes across to them?

Fear, itself, is what needs to be dissolved."
 
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:unsure: is right...

did jamie foxx, his family, or his personal doctor come out and say his condition had anything to do with the vaccine?

even if it did, even if the vaccine 100% caused this... it's STILL not good evidence that the vaccines are killing or handicapping ANYWHERE NEAR the same number as the virus.
 
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Sure some things can be proved with legitimate evidence…but I think when it comes to politics or the people running this shit show of a country your not gonna get anything that you can call 100% true evidence, there is just to much bullshit and bias from journalist and miss information being sold to those journalist

I honestly think most people don’t care at all about politics, they just want to hear something they agree with and know there are people who are wrong while they are right, cause who cares about being right if there isn’t anybody that is wrong?…that’s why we are so easily manipulated, we’ve gone soft, we just want to watch tv and drink Starbucks after work, maybe it’s apathy or existential crisis, I dunno but I’m just getting sick of it

I actually think it's more complicated than that. Certainly there is an element of people engaging in political discussion for the purpose of smugly declaring how much smarter they are than all the stupid sheep on the opposite side, and to pat themselves on the back when people agree with them or support them, and to feel self-righteous when people disagree.

But I think the larger motivator is that people are scared. The world is circling the drain, things are getting worse for most people financially, and our society is falling apart. People tend to want simple answers, and someone to blame. Politicians know this, so they prey on our fear and uncertainty and present what seems to be a nice, neatly packaged answer: it's the god damn [liberals'/conservatives'] fault!! They've indentified the issues that cause us the most fear (immigration, gun control, health, etc), and the issues that are the most ethically controversial (abortion, religion, etc), and use those to rile their bases up. I think most people are so worked up by politics not because they don't care and just like to feel right, but because they're scared of the future and of the present, and politicians have convinced most people that the team they identify with is going to save us and return our country/the world to the way it was the last time they felt secure and confident in things, while meanwhile, the other side is a barely human, diabolically evil force bent on corrupting the morality of decent people, and must be stopped at all costs. It's a culture war on many levels, they've turned it into a fight of good against evil, for the soul of the country. IMO, that is why people get so worked up about politics. If you believe that, then it would be insane NOT to get worked up.

Unfortunately, it's mostly just a smokescreen for the rich to get richer and for them to further erode our freedoms. Neither side is looking out for the common man, and neither side's politicians are good people. They're all liars who are in it to receive legal bribes from lobbyists, who buy their vote. It's an appallingly irresponsible thing they're doing, they're driving a massive wedge between two halves of the population, families are breaking up over this shit these days. It's hard for me to believe that they're willing to go so far, we're to the point that people are muttering about civil war. But they haven't even slowed down the rhetoric, they're doubling down on the divisiveness. It's disgusting.

i hate the motherfuckers who tried to starve my child and myself from making an income and i always will and i don't think i'll ever get over what was done to me and whoever else suffered over the last 2 years



and anytime this subject is brought upon me, and seen differently, it's going to be met with an angry and resentful tone until the day i die

That is totally understandable. <3 Vaccine mandates are something I never agreed with, even when I was saying that it was irresponsible not to do it. Cutting people off from work over it is even worse. Especially since we came to realize that once alpha wave was over (which was way back almost at the beginning of this thing compared to now), they weren't even doing much.

"The anti-vax crowd that uses terms like “pure blood,” “vax-tard,” and other derogatory terms while almost exclusively perpetuating stories of vaccine injury/death really bothers me.

Yes, the shots are poison.
Yes, no one should ever get one.
Yes, absolutely, people have died and become injured as a result of them.
And YES, we should raise awareness to it.

But there are thousands and thousands of vaccinated people who’ve realized the mistake they’ve made. How do you think all of this comes across to them?

Fear, itself, is what needs to be dissolved."

Good point that person has. There are indeed millions of people who are feeling a bit duped, even if they don't think it's a full-on conspiracy to kill or sterilize half the population (more like a massive and shameful money grab and a whole bunch of lies and half truths). I say this to everybody on all sides of every battleground issue, but you have virtually zero chance of convincing anyone of your arguments if you insult them. And if you realize that, and still enter every conversation with insults flying, it starts to seem like you're just getting your kicks out of calling people stupid, and/or pounding your chest and shouting about how much smarter than other people you are (reminds me of guys who tell everyone who will listen how massive their dick is, and the only conclusion you can reach is that they're really trying to convince themselves).

(I wasn't directing this at you, Krink, just saying in general)
 
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