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Sure some things can be proved with legitimate evidence…but I think when it comes to politics or the people running this shit show of a country your not gonna get anything that you can call 100% true evidence, there is just to much bullshit and bias from journalist and miss information being sold to those journalist
I honestly think most people don’t care at all about politics, they just want to hear something they agree with and know there are people who are wrong while they are right, cause who cares about being right if there isn’t anybody that is wrong?…that’s why we are so easily manipulated, we’ve gone soft, we just want to watch tv and drink Starbucks after work, maybe it’s apathy or existential crisis, I dunno but I’m just getting sick of it
I actually think it's more complicated than that. Certainly there is an element of people engaging in political discussion for the purpose of smugly declaring how much smarter they are than all the stupid sheep on the opposite side, and to pat themselves on the back when people agree with them or support them, and to feel self-righteous when people disagree.
But I think the larger motivator is that people are scared. The world is circling the drain, things are getting worse for most people financially, and our society is falling apart. People tend to want simple answers, and someone to blame. Politicians know this, so they prey on our fear and uncertainty and present what seems to be a nice, neatly packaged answer: it's the god damn [liberals'/conservatives'] fault!! They've indentified the issues that cause us the most fear (immigration, gun control, health, etc), and the issues that are the most ethically controversial (abortion, religion, etc), and use those to rile their bases up. I think most people are so worked up by politics not because they don't care and just like to feel right, but because they're scared of the future and of the present, and politicians have convinced most people that the team they identify with is going to save us and return our country/the world to the way it was the last time they felt secure and confident in things, while meanwhile, the
other side is a barely human, diabolically evil force bent on corrupting the morality of decent people, and must be stopped at all costs. It's a culture war on many levels, they've turned it into a fight of good against evil, for the soul of the country. IMO, that is why people get so worked up about politics. If you believe that, then it would be insane NOT to get worked up.
Unfortunately, it's mostly just a smokescreen for the rich to get richer and for them to further erode our freedoms. Neither side is looking out for the common man, and neither side's politicians are good people. They're all liars who are in it to receive legal bribes from lobbyists, who buy their vote. It's an appallingly irresponsible thing they're doing, they're driving a massive wedge between two halves of the population, families are breaking up over this shit these days. It's hard for me to believe that they're willing to go so far, we're to the point that people are muttering about civil war. But they haven't even slowed down the rhetoric, they're doubling down on the divisiveness. It's disgusting.
i hate the motherfuckers who tried to starve my child and myself from making an income and i always will and i don't think i'll ever get over what was done to me and whoever else suffered over the last 2 years
and anytime this subject is brought upon me, and seen differently, it's going to be met with an angry and resentful tone until the day i die
That is totally understandable.

Vaccine mandates are something I never agreed with, even when I was saying that it was irresponsible not to do it. Cutting people off from work over it is even worse. Especially since we came to realize that once alpha wave was over (which was way back almost at the beginning of this thing compared to now), they weren't even doing much.
"The anti-vax crowd that uses terms like “pure blood,” “vax-tard,” and other derogatory terms while almost exclusively perpetuating stories of vaccine injury/death really bothers me.
Yes, the shots are poison.
Yes, no one should ever get one.
Yes, absolutely, people have died and become injured as a result of them.
And YES, we should raise awareness to it.
But there are thousands and thousands of vaccinated people who’ve realized the mistake they’ve made. How do you think all of this comes across to them?
Fear, itself, is what needs to be dissolved."
Good point that person has. There are indeed millions of people who are feeling a bit duped, even if they don't think it's a full-on conspiracy to kill or sterilize half the population (more like a massive and shameful money grab and a whole bunch of lies and half truths). I say this to everybody on all sides of every battleground issue, but you have virtually zero chance of convincing anyone of your arguments if you insult them. And if you realize that, and still enter every conversation with insults flying, it starts to seem like you're just getting your kicks out of calling people stupid, and/or pounding your chest and shouting about how much smarter than other people you are (reminds me of guys who tell everyone who will listen how massive their dick is, and the only conclusion you can reach is that they're really trying to convince themselves).
(I wasn't directing this at you, Krink, just saying in general)