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TripSitterNZ said:
so some teenager serial rapist gets let off with one year house arrest down from a starting point of 7 years. He raped 3 underaged victims when he was over 16. And they give him name supression in this fucked up country. What the acutal fuck the cunt should be hung drawn and fucking quartered.

What the fuck is up with our justice system. No one ones to fucking jail for shit. Some mf dudes shot and killed this dude in a gang war and literally got 3 years jail sentence for fucking murder. These left wing fucking socalist dumb cunts wokests are fucked i swear. yet bam u sell some weed a few years in jail for you. WTF!!!!!!!!
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gotta watch out for the wokies man. They like to give light sentences to pedos as well.
 
Conservatives need to ban harry potter books

Strong racist undertones (mud bloods) and they even have elf slaves who are constantly abused
 
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Negentropic said:
math books, apparently
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Liberals do a poor job of using the word cancel correctly.

Cancelling is not complaining about a math book and perhaps getting it replaced with a better version.

Cancelling is using the fake news and social media mobs to influence the employability prospects and torpedo the reputation of a specific individual, due to their political beliefs. The goal is to take their livelihood away by any means necessary.
 
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mal3volent said:
Liberals do a poor job of using the word cancel correctly.

Cancelling is not complaining about a math book and perhaps getting it replaced with a better version.

Cancelling is using the fake news and social media mobs to influence the employability prospects and torpedo the reputation of a specific individual, due to their political beliefs. The goal is to take their livelihood away by any many necessary.
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I'm not liberal but point taken

although I'd speculatively argue that by banning these books it is still some sort of cancellation of their authors and the companies that produce them. Other states will take notice and do the same thing. Soon, many areas of the US won't accept their works, and likely won't in the future either diminishing their company and individuals within them... you'll likely have groups of activists protesting against them irl and in social media... stretching, yeah, but the world is semantical

whatever the right leadership does, their followers will mimic, attack and protest against (and vice versa of course)
 
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mal3volent said:
Cancelling is using the fake news and social media mobs to influence the employability prospects and torpedo the reputation of a specific individual, due to their political beliefs. The goal is to take their livelihood away by any means necessary.
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people who have a problem - for whatever reason, political or otherwise - with somebody shouldn’t be free to express that opinion?

and companies who act on that opinion - who feel that it’s in their best business interests - and decide to no longer employ/publish/whatever that person shouldn’t be free to make that decision? sounds like the free market doing what markets do…

i’m playing devil’s advocate to an extent but to me it often sounds like a case of wanting cake and eating it.

alasdair
 
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alasdairm said:
people who have a problem - for whatever reason, political or otherwise - with somebody shouldn’t be free to express that opinion?

and companies who act on that opinion - who feel that it’s in their best business interests - and decide to no longer employ/publish/whatever that person shouldn’t be free to make that decision? sounds like the free market doing what markets do…

i’m playing devil’s advocate to an extent but to me it often sounds like a case of wanting cake and eating it.

alasdair
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Social media and the fake news (leaving out all real news) is not part of a free market. Unless by free market you mean unbridled capitalism cynically playing with people's minds and emotions to make money. It's not free in the sense that reporters get to choose which stories are run (the editors do and they work for corporate bosses). It's not free in the sense that they report facts without a political agenda. It's not free in the sense that the best product eventually rises to the top. The quality of mainstream news is worse now than ever. Even if you claw deep, it's very difficult to find reputable sources.

People are free to express opinions. But corporations aren't people. Oh wait, yes they are...never mind. Are we talking about what's legal or what's right here? I was talking about what is right. Attacking a persons livelihood, mental health, physical safety, family, future, etc to score cheap political points that amounts to nothing in the end is evil. You're denying them an authentic chance at self growth too, because even if they were in the wrong and regret what they've done, there is now resentment in their hearts because of everything they've lost.

You've accomplished absolutely nothing.
 
I wonder how long it will take for the few remaining libs on BL to realize they've been left behind. No more Bernie, guys. He was the last decent one but he's all used up now. I kept the hope alive for as long as possible but I'm done.
 
mal3volent said:
I wonder how long it will take for the few remaining libs on BL to realize they've been left behind. No more Bernie, guys. He was the last decent one but he's all used up now. I kept the hope alive for as long as possible but I'm done.
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I honestly think conversations like this tend to head towards dramatic and universal statements at times, and I think the entirety of someone's political understanding should possess many differing (and possibly even contradictory) factors about myriad topics.

Woke/based/cancel culture etc... These are all essentially memes and just ways for us to understand what's going on around us as we're saturated with global capitalist media.

The ideal political possesses multitudes, and I don't think liberal and conservative are the convenient monoliths of ideology they used to be any longer, and that's where this communication breakdown comes in. Everything in absolute value, you subscribe to one plank in the platform, you subscribe to all.

If you identified with Bernie at one point, I'm sure he's still a closer example of your views than the average conservative, and the milquetoast condescending libs Pelosi et are going to be less and less appealing as cultural communication evolves.

I do believe Bernie (and Trump as well) were catalysts that prove that most Americans are more on board with a radical politic than more of the same. Like tell it to us straight man, you're supposed to represent us, were tired of industry stooges.

Hopefully things change, and evolve and we are able to better communicate with each other, but these conversations need to be had.
 
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mal3volent said:
I wonder how long it will take for the few remaining libs on BL to realize they've been left behind.
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well then i guess the right will have achieved what seems to be their #1 objective of 'owning the libs' and they can move on and focus on, you know, doing something beyond stoking fear and hate.

yes, it's a ludicrous, inaccurate generalization. q.e.d.

alasdair
 
mal3volent said:
Cancelling is using the fake news and social media mobs to influence the employability prospects and torpedo the reputation of a specific individual, due to their political beliefs. The goal is to take their livelihood away by any means necessary.
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Oh, you mean how DeSantis is literally trying to cancel Disney from Florida? Or is that whole story just fake news?
 
alasdairm said:
well then i guess the right will have achieved what seems to be their #1 objective of 'owning the libs' and they can move on and focus on, you know, doing something beyond stoking fear and hate.

yes, it's a ludicrous, inaccurate generalization. q.e.d.

alasdair
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Lol, when I posted the libs thing, I thought "shit, they will probably respond to this and ignore my other post".

q.e.d.

Nah dude I'm not saying the right is any better. I still consider myself a leftist, overall, ideologically...I'm just saying there is NO home for me there anymore. They've pushed me out.

Being a gay, non-religious, anti-war guy who cared about the environment and drug policy used to be enough to get my card stamped. Not anymore, clearly.
 
Jerry Atrick said:
Oh, you mean how DeSantis is literally trying to cancel Disney from Florida? Or is that whole story just fake news?
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Well the way it has been marketed as the Don't Say Gay bill is certainly fake news. The media was complicit in that. If they had any objectivity AT ALL they'd refer to it by its real name or at the very least House Bill 1557.

Again, bad attempt at using the word cancel. Disney cannot be cancelled. What DeSantis is doing is engaging in good old fashioned political theater. He's not going to pay a billion dollars or however much it would cost. Disney will get this tied up in the courts somehow and it'll eventually be forgotten about.

I use the term fake news somewhat in jest. But mainstream media truly is fucked (see my post above). Remember when it used to be a liberal thing to bitch about the media?
 
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deficiT said:
I honestly think conversations like this tend to head towards dramatic and universal statements at times, and I think the entirety of someone's political understanding should possess many differing (and possibly even contradictory) factors about myriad topics.

Woke/based/cancel culture etc... These are all essentially memes and just ways for us to understand what's going on around us as we're saturated with global capitalist media.

The ideal political possesses multitudes, and I don't think liberal and conservative are the convenient monoliths of ideology they used to be any longer, and that's where this communication breakdown comes in. Everything in absolute value, you subscribe you one plank in the platform, you subscribe to all.

If you identified with Bernie at one point, I'm sure he's still a closer example of your views than the average conservative, and the milquetoast condescending libs Pelosi et are going to be less and less appealing as cultural communication evolves.

I do believe Bernie (and Trump as well) were catalysts that prove that most Americans are more on board with a radical politic than more of the same. Like tell it to us straight man, you're supposed to represent us, were tired of industry stooges.

Hopefully things change, and evolve and we are able to better communicate with each other, but these conversations need to be had.
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Well said. Time to cut the bullshit.
 
mal3volent said:
Well the way it has been marketed as the Don't Say Gay bill is certainly fake news. The media was complicit in that. If they had any objectivity AT ALL they'd refer to it by its real name or at the very least House Bill 1557.

Again, bad attempt at using the word cancel. Disney cannot be cancelled. What DeSantis is doing is engaging in good old fashioned political theater. He's not going to pay a billion dollars or however much it would cost. Disney will get this tied up in the courts somehow and it'll eventually be forgotten about.

I use the term fake news somewhat in jest. But mainstream media truly is fucked (see my post above). Remember when it used to be a liberal thing to bitch about the media?
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Speaking of political theater, did you see Greg Abbott's fuck up at the TX/MX border where he held up trucks for "inspections" that 1) did not find any drugs or illegal migrants and 2) wasted literally tons of fruit and other food that spoiled while the trucks waited in line? I've heard estimates that the debacle cost about $8 billion. And to top it off, I just read today that MX decided to reroute their trucks to New Mexico because fuck Texas and Abbott. lol

I honestly don't remember when liberals bitched about the media. I started paying attention to politics in the 90s when Rush Limbaugh first came out and my dad was a huge fan. Rush used to always bitch about all media being liberal. Ever since then, I don't think I have ever heard many liberals bitching about MSM other than the usual Fox News complaints. You don't have to cite sources but can you name examples or time ranges when liberals bitched about the media? Maybe you can jog my memory.
 
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