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The depths of THC, a new look at the green godess.

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Oral cannabis can get mind rapingly intense. Especially if you have low tolerance. The most I have done is 1.5-2g good quality hash dissolved in warm high fat milk. At that level it gets very psychedelic indeed, at times rivalling the traditional psyches in intensity. 15-20mg jwh-018 was also very intense dosed orally, but felt more cold/mechanical than regular cannabis.

I wonder what 10g+ of good hash would feel like.. probably a trip to introspective hell. :|
 
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smoking a joint= last 1-2 hours
eating a joint= last 6-8 hours

when i used to work midnight shift used to powder some crons and put it in a cup of boiling water and cover the top with saran wrap. drank everything down. kicks in about 2+ hours later, but the duration cannot be beat at all by smoking. its digestional absorption vs inhalation.
yet its the inhalation weve become accustomed to. thats the reason why no one buys nicotine gum, but instead buys a pack of cigs. it is what it is i guess.
 
Keep it coming fellas, this all helps me to work through the concepts with a much greater clarity, your experiences and knowledge I hope will play a part in making this experiment a more thorough and serious scientific investigation and not just some over the top, passed out unconscious, cant remember a thing, failure that as some of you pointed out, it could easily become.

Because Cannabis is such a relaxed, familiar and happy drug, in some way taking it so seriously seems a little ironic, but instinct and impulse should never be ignored imo, and something is compelling me to hunt for a deeper dialog or a clearer seeing of the essence of this plant, that gives so much to so many.

I have started the abstaining already, another 2 months and i think that will about do it as far as dropping tolerance and removing some of the familiarity, if its not and the experiment fails, then I will cross that bridge when I come to it, but for me at the moment in life, 3 months is about the maximum time I am willing to invest.

I have thought about the panic attacks, and the paranoia, but these are well known things that THc has shown me many times and I have never been freaked out of threatened by them, they come in waves, and they pass, no different to lots of other drug rides, THC's ups and downs are pretty safe in my experience, and my experience is all I have to go on when it comes to being psychically and emotionally ready for any psychedelic adventure.

I also (to quote bill hicks) "have had my third eye squeegied quite clean" by adventures and meetings with the mushroom logos.

So the method of ingestion is still to be decided, everything else is falling into place.

I still think my hash cookie + huge joint combo will be appropriate.

Solipsis, your info was brilliant and has already added much to the scientific notes, thanks.

thanks everyone else for the encouragement
 
The visuals from a psychedelic dose of THC are rather amazing. almost like a mix of MDA flutter visuals with LSD colors, patterns and character but a character all its own. things are much more intense. for instence my checkered white and black floor became 3D with the black tiles looking like they were a ft or so talller, was crazy to walk on... lol anyways, its awesome and hasrd to desbcribe
 
I think weeds underestimated as a psychedelic. But just like any other psychedelic - I find that frequent use takes away it's more introspective moments. I just find weed has a much more paranoid edge to introspective ways compared to things like LSD/Shrooms and less of a 'let go with it' feel.

Weed is a massive potentiator with psychedelics too I find, if smoked on the peak of a trip it can really blast things off even on the more lower doses - especially visually. So I honestly wouldn't be surprised if used in large amounts these things could happen, I just think that it has less potential if smoked everyday/frequently.
 
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I think weeds underestimated as a psychedelic. But just like any other psychedelic - I find that frequent use takes away it's more introspective moments. I just find weed has a much more paranoid edge to introspective ways compared to things like LSD/Shrooms and less of a 'let go with it' feel.

Weed is a massive potentiator with psychedelics too I find, if smoked on the peak of a trip it can really blast things off even on the more lower doses - especially visually. So I honestly wouldn't be surprised if used in large amounts these things could happen, I just think that it has less potential if smoked everyday/frequently.
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haha no shit i popped a vicodin evry 15 minutes for a couple hours straight with barely any effects. but as soon as i took a hit of soem medical kush, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu put me on my mofo ass. definite and NECCESSARY potentiator of not only psychedelics but just about anything and everything there is.
 
I remember one of the first times I smoked cannabis.
Played 'killer' with a few kids there, next thing, I was in the toilet using the sink to wash down a piece of bread I was hell bent on eating.
After that, I went up to bed and started having a typical psychedelic closed eye trip, in which I followed my visualised thoughts all the way down to a representation of my self-confidence problem which I broke up with my mind.
The whole thing was full of childhood memories and deja vu, and still stays in my mind after about 5 years now. I'd put it down to the low tolerance and not knowing what to expect, but I wouldn't completely rule out the possibility of there being something else in the blunt.
 
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haha no shit i popped a vicodin evry 15 minutes for a couple hours straight with barely any effects. but as soon as i took a hit of soem medical kush, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu put me on my mofo ass. definite and NECCESSARY potentiator of not only psychedelics but just about anything and everything there is.
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kush when you're drunk just gives you the spins, not fun.
 
The abstinance has been tough, but I held out, now I'm at week 8 or 9 I think, I was going to try for 3 months so hopefully I can hold out for the last 2 or 3 weeks now.

I stilll haven't totally decided on the method of ingestion or the amounts yet, but i'm still leaning towards a few really strong cookies and having a few serious joints rolled.

I think a half an ounce spread between these 2 medium should be an effective dose.

but maybe with the abstinence factor I wont need that much, but i dont want to underdo it, I dont want to be redosing, I have invested a lot of time and self control to get to this point and it would be a waste of all that effort to blow it with too low a dose.
I want the first big intake of THC to be enough, like when I take acid there is no point re dosing during the trip if you want to up the intensity, the only way i have found that works is to take a larger dose at the start.

remember, im not just trying to get really stoned, i want the full trip, like the hash eaters describe.

I will do up a complete trip report when the day arrives and hope to make it as comprehensive as possible.
 
Its not PD talk, the use of the word psychedelic and mention of a few psych drugs is hardly enough ;)

PD >> CD
 
What's "psychedelic"? Does it mean "substitutes for DOI in lab rats trained to recognise that drug"? Does it mean "produces an unusual state of consciousness"? Which experiences are valid? What a minefield of philosophy one can enter with a seemingly simple question.

Anyway, what was the point of this thread? Yeah, cannabis can be trippy in high doses, especially via the oral route. You intend to take a high dose and trip. What kind of discussion were you looking for beyond that? This is probably going to either be closed or merged into the edibles megathread.
 
it does have some psychedelic properties, but for the most part it is just a euphoric depressant. it kind of downs you on the body in the inside, but it gives the outside an energy boost. makes you feel more agile, and an artificial high. the shit it does on the inside has a degrading effect on some aspects of your body, but youll be ok for the most part. this doesnt mean it should stop you from smoking, im just saying it could do just if not damage if not more than it does good. it can be good, but it can also be bad.

but weed for the most part is more of a natural high... but im saying artificial to contrast the negative effects on the inside, separating it from the positive feeling effects you get from it.
 
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What's "psychedelic"? Does it mean "substitutes for DOI in lab rats trained to recognise that drug"? Does it mean "produces an unusual state of consciousness"? Which experiences are valid? What a minefield of philosophy one can enter with a seemingly simple question.

Anyway, what was the point of this thread? Yeah, cannabis can be trippy in high doses, especially via the oral route. You intend to take a high dose and trip. What kind of discussion were you looking for beyond that? This is probably going to either be closed or merged into the edibles megathread.
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I thought this forum was called cannabis and spirituality ?

Well, what i was hoping for is entity contact, or some kind of conscious connection with the spirit behind the plant, which I feel is an experience not frequently discussed, I guess I shouldn't have relied on stoners to give me any deep input, you guys seem stuck in the daily use cycle.

oh well, I tried, sorry it was too deep for you mate.

have another bong and forget about it.
 
No, this forum is called "Cannabis Discussion". I also mod "Philosophy and Spirituality", which is probably where the confusion stemmed from. For what it's worth, I don't use cannabis daily, I haven't had a smoke for a few days. I don't think the idea of a "plant spirit" is going to stand up to rigorous analysis, tbh. That wooly concept was sort of intermingled with discussion about your plans to eat lots of hash, leading to a rather aimless and confused thread that seemed like it might have been better suited to your blog or to the edibles megathread. However, I extended an invitation to you to make it clear what your hopes for this thread were. If you'd attempted to engage me in a fruitful discussion concerning your vision for the future of the thread, it might have stayed open, but seeing as you've chosen to be a dick about it, I'm going to close it. There's an edibles megathread that's linked to in the directory, and a couple of threads about cannabis and religion, if you want to check those out. My PM box is always open if you want to talk about the issue further.
 
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