Meth novice 79
Bluelighter
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- Nov 11, 2019
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Have you SEEN the amount of smoke on exhale with an actual tobacco vape?
It’s like they’re smoking 8 full strength cigarettes at once!
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s speeding up progression of people’s lung deterioration.
That said no one can actually pin point what’s triggering the rise in diagnosis.
I personally experienced an extremely early diagnosis simply because I needed an unrelated MRI on my chest, liver and kidneys and it picked up the damage at least a stage earlier than the average (most don’t feel the full effects of COPD til stage 3, before that it’s just slower shorter breathing)
Better imaging and breathing diagnostic tools very likely are bringing about a lot of early diagnosis of the illness today that would have been missed earlier previously.
Along with environmental factors.
My grandfather never smoked a day in his life but all of his jobs involved working in and around substances corrosive to the lungs, from building roads and the harsh chemicals required in the 70’s to create pulp in a timber mill.
When he passed his lungs, liver, kidneys and prostate were FULL of cancer.
The only organ left undamaged was his heart.
I had a vape for a few weeks, couldn’t be bothered stuffing around with all the cartridges and recharging and ended up just going out and buying smoked so I doubt it had any affect on me.
I also live 2 km from both a rubbish dump and tyre recycling joint (same home for 10 years) that somehow ‘magically and inexplainably since it’s illegal to burn tyre rubber in an urban setting, is set on fire 3 times a year prompting health warnings for us all to close all our windows and doors and turn off air con circulation to the house.
According to the EPA, benzene, mercury, styrene-butadiene, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, and arsenic, among several other chemicals, heavy metals and carcinogens, have been found in tires. Studies have found that crumb rubber can emit gases that can be inhaled.
Benzopyrene specifically is a proven carcinogenic when inhaled.
And wow was I obsessed with this concept when both my 13 year old fell ill at the same time the same year the tyre joint went up in flame 6 times! That same year she developed epilepsy and I was diagnosed with lupus (which I now believe was drug induced as the symptoms vanished when I cut back on the shit) and lung disease.
I still haven’t let go of that little bit of paranoia lol
I’ve gone over this a thousand times, even taking on board what my sketchy user mate say about smoked meth recrystallising in your lungs and causing damage as well.
If I held my smoke in too long he’d slap me so I’d cough it out
That said this guy doesn’t smoke cigs, only IV’s meth, smack and his suboxone (which I have heard can break off and travel to the lungs causing damage) and only smokes meth when his veins are playing up, so I can see why he blames the meth.
He’s only 33 and his emphysema is on par with mine at 41. Also happens til 3 k from said ‘accidental’ tyre burn offs.
Too many contributing factors for ANY so called expert to pin point the one cause
It’s like they’re smoking 8 full strength cigarettes at once!
I wouldn’t be at all surprised if it’s speeding up progression of people’s lung deterioration.
That said no one can actually pin point what’s triggering the rise in diagnosis.
I personally experienced an extremely early diagnosis simply because I needed an unrelated MRI on my chest, liver and kidneys and it picked up the damage at least a stage earlier than the average (most don’t feel the full effects of COPD til stage 3, before that it’s just slower shorter breathing)
Better imaging and breathing diagnostic tools very likely are bringing about a lot of early diagnosis of the illness today that would have been missed earlier previously.
Along with environmental factors.
My grandfather never smoked a day in his life but all of his jobs involved working in and around substances corrosive to the lungs, from building roads and the harsh chemicals required in the 70’s to create pulp in a timber mill.
When he passed his lungs, liver, kidneys and prostate were FULL of cancer.
The only organ left undamaged was his heart.
I had a vape for a few weeks, couldn’t be bothered stuffing around with all the cartridges and recharging and ended up just going out and buying smoked so I doubt it had any affect on me.
I also live 2 km from both a rubbish dump and tyre recycling joint (same home for 10 years) that somehow ‘magically and inexplainably since it’s illegal to burn tyre rubber in an urban setting, is set on fire 3 times a year prompting health warnings for us all to close all our windows and doors and turn off air con circulation to the house.
According to the EPA, benzene, mercury, styrene-butadiene, polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons, and arsenic, among several other chemicals, heavy metals and carcinogens, have been found in tires. Studies have found that crumb rubber can emit gases that can be inhaled.
Benzopyrene specifically is a proven carcinogenic when inhaled.
And wow was I obsessed with this concept when both my 13 year old fell ill at the same time the same year the tyre joint went up in flame 6 times! That same year she developed epilepsy and I was diagnosed with lupus (which I now believe was drug induced as the symptoms vanished when I cut back on the shit) and lung disease.
I still haven’t let go of that little bit of paranoia lol
I’ve gone over this a thousand times, even taking on board what my sketchy user mate say about smoked meth recrystallising in your lungs and causing damage as well.
If I held my smoke in too long he’d slap me so I’d cough it out
That said this guy doesn’t smoke cigs, only IV’s meth, smack and his suboxone (which I have heard can break off and travel to the lungs causing damage) and only smokes meth when his veins are playing up, so I can see why he blames the meth.
He’s only 33 and his emphysema is on par with mine at 41. Also happens til 3 k from said ‘accidental’ tyre burn offs.
Too many contributing factors for ANY so called expert to pin point the one cause
