Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

[AutoTripper]

This is the age of bewitchment coming into it's fullest, unstoppable fruition.

 

[birdup]

The same people and organisations who produce and present and verify those statistics and narratives are the same ones who continue to out right deny that Chemtrailing is a real thing over planet Earth.

Doesn't that statement also apply to dentists and plumbers and... literally every other profession on earth? I mean: what profession believes in chemtrails?

 

[AutoTripper]

Doesn't that statement also apply to dentists and plumbers and... literally every other profession on earth? I mean: what profession believes in chemtrails?

Exactly again. The common dentist, and the common doctor, for sll their yes, expertise and training, knows effectively jack shit about the real world.

Which goes round in circle under a spell which cannot be broken.

 

[birdup]

So if doctors don't know anything, who does?

 

[t_xeplionhell]

So if doctors don't know anything, who does?

They surely doesnt know shit. They work by protocol made by pharmacy I'm living proof of that and people recovering from invega susutenna for example.

 

[birdup]

I'm not suggesting that doctors are super smart let alone infallible.

You have to keep in mind: there are a lot of highly educated people on the planet that are fucking morons.

My point is: if you maintain a healthy level of scepticism - and you don't believe doctors - then why believe YouTube videos or 3% of doctors?

 

[Achten]

i take it you haven't travelled to one of the many countries that have required proof of vaccination against certain disease as a condition of entry for decades?

I have, several times. I always got the required vaccines for the respective countries. Not once did anyone ever ask me for a certificate or proof.

 

[birdup]

@Achten

So you're problem is not the vaccines, but having to provide evidence of being vaccinated?

@AutoTripper

This anyway is how I look when I'm "about to fight crime"

Why is the bandage so dirty? It doesn't look like you're about to fight crime. It looks like you've just emerged from a bunker in some sort of apocalyptic future and the best thing you can find to protect yourself from the radiation is an decade old rag.

I WISH People could just be open-minded and intelligent enough to actually think hang on here maybe this guy isn't totally nuts maybe he does have this massively compromised immune system and maybe what he's reporting about his abnormal extreme measures and treatment methods is actually accurate.

As far as the electromedicine goes: I believe that it (probably) works for you, but I don't think most people need it. You often seem to be having a discussion with yourself about electromedicine. I'm not sure who you're trying to convince?

 

[dalpat077]

"Yuhang suggested we just keep following the Greek alphabet and name it Xi.

That would have sent @TripSitterNZ over the fucking edge for sho!

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Regardless of your position on mandates, this is completely false.

An Israeli study on vaccination and Delta variant infection rates in adolescents found a 90% reduction of infection and 93% reduction of symptomatic infection 1-3 weeks after the 2nd dose.

Here is another study on the effectiveness of vaccines in preventing symptomatic Covid infection. These are the results of the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine:


In early 2021, a UK study found that transmission between household members was reduced by 40-50% with ONE DOSE OF VACCINE.

Another study found the household contact transmission rate with the delta variant to be 38% transmission to unvaccinated household members vs. 25% to vaccinated household members. This study did find that those who were vaccinated and infected with Delta-variant Covid did infect others at approximately the same rate as those unvaccinated and infected.

However, this still does not mean that the vaccine does not decrease transmission. As we've already seen, vaccinated people are significantly less likely to catch Covid and people who do not have Covid cannot transmit it, therefore vaccinated people are still overall much less likely to transmit Covid to family members.

A big point you are also missing is how drastically symptom severity is reduced in vaccinated people. The risks of hospitalizations and death both plummet with vaccination.

The question here is not whether or not vaccines work. A quick search on Google Scholar will find a mountain of evidence proving their efficacy. The only debate is if mandating vaccines that we know work is ethical and to what degree said mandates should exist.

EDIT: Evidence for risk of hospitalizations and death decreasing below.
According to the British Columbia CDC:



In Ontario, the full vaccination rate in people 12+ is 87%, with 3% being partially vaccinated and only 10% of people being unvaccinated. Despite that, fully vaccinated people only accounted for 3.3% of deaths from December 14 2020 to November 14 2021. Even the fully vaccinated people who catch Covid are still drastically less likely to die from it.

According to the data, vaccination is literally saving lives.

with all those studies, you would think the pandemic would be history by now

"An Israeli study on vaccination and Delta variant infection rates in adolescents found a 90% reduction of infection and 93% reduction of symptomatic infection 1-3 weeks after the 2nd dose."


1 to 3 weeks after the second dose....tell me how effective it is 8 weeks after the second dose, and then 12 weeks, and 16...you don't wanna talk about that do ya

also, your rate of having a heart attack or stroke has increased those first couple weeks - but at least your 90% covered for covid during those critical weeks


"Dr. Gundry regularly tests patients for early signs of heart problems, such as inflammation and cellular death. The patients are then given a score designed to predict their risk of developing an acute coronary syndrome in the next five years.

What’s an acute coronary syndrome? Glad you asked. Per the Mayo Clinic:

Acute coronary syndrome is a term used to describe a range of conditions associated with sudden, reduced blood flow to the heart. One such condition is a heart attack (myocardial infarction) — when cell death results in damaged or destroyed heart tissue.

Gundry found that his patients saw an increase in risk from 11 percent to 25 percent, and the risks persisted for at least 2.5 months after the second dose. His takeaway:

“We conclude that the mRNA [vaccines] dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination.”

 

[AutoTripper]

I'm not sure who you're trying to convince?

The people out there at large who are dying daily from respiratory infections, gasping on ventilators in hospital.

How many people die of (or is it with) pneumonia daily?

How many people die with Covid respiratory infections?

Together, lots. Daily. I would have joined them, years ago, but I discovered Electromedicine.

If there are people dying from infections in their airways, heart too, or anywhere localised potentially, Electromedicine will prevent this.

So suggesting nobody needs it is with respect, right to the point here, a gigantic plain misunderstanding.

Now, I admit the tubigrip needs washing again. I cycle them but my room's gotten messy recently I couldn't find the current tubigrip so that one was in a drawer and sufficed.

The fight crime was purely a joke.

It's irrelevant also what I "look like" with the treatment set up. Only about 20 minutes like that initially, then it slides round my neck.

It's the easiest way to keep two pads in place.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

my mother, who created an alcohol habit for herself, tried to stop drinking cold turkey and ended up losing her shit, and she was suddenly having the same symptoms that a schizophrenic would have....anyway she ended up in a loony bin and they were trying different drugs and nothing worked and then they decided to give her some ECT treatments and it brought her back like magic....unreal....

that's the whole story

pretty cool right?

 

[AutoTripper]

my mother, who created an alcohol habit for herself, tried to stop drinking cold turkey and ended up losing her shit, and she was suddenly having the same symptoms that a schizophrenic would have....anyway she ended up in a loony bin and they were trying different drugs and nothing worked and then they decided to give her some ECT treatments and it brought her back like magic....unreal....

that's the whole story

pretty cool right?

So you ARE the bloodline of Frankenstein after all!

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

she does kinda look like the bride of Frank....

my mom's bonkers

 

[relentlessgenjin]

Ya I saw some folks complaining about "life altering" side effects one more reason or more than one side effect telling me Pfizer is as bright as a donkey carrying blow along a Grand Canyon passageway

 

[arrall]

with all those studies, you would think the pandemic would be history by now

In places where most people are vaccinated, it essentially is. When 40% of the country is not fully vaccinated and about 30% is not at all vaccinated then that portion is going to catch it.

1 to 3 weeks after the second dose....tell me how effective it is 8 weeks after the second dose, and then 12 weeks, and 16...you don't wanna talk about that do ya

Immunity certainly does wane, primarily in older people. Younger people (~early 30s and younger) can maintain immunity for months or even years, but in older people after about 5-6 months the antibody levels end up being pretty low. That is why the government is now recommending booster shots for people with weaker immune systems, in the same way that you get a flu shot every year.

Gundry found that his patients saw an increase in risk from 11 percent to 25 percent, and the risks persisted for at least 2.5 months after the second dose.

The journal that published that study put an expression of concern next to it due to many of the paper's claims lacking evidence. There is no evidence that these vaccines increase the rate of heart attack or stroke. I believe that short-term myocarditis somewhat increases in males age 12-mid 20s, and I personally know an individual who got myocarditis from the second dose.

Regardless, even if that study's claims are true: the risk of contracting myocarditis from Covid-19 is actually FAR higher than contracting it from the vaccine. Covid is a virus that works by affecting blood oxygenation levels, and therefore it can cause various cardiovascular issues far more commonly than the vaccine can.

Arguing against mandates is reasonable and I can understand someone holding that position (I'm not the biggest fan of mandates myself based on principle), but being anti-vax just does not make sense when you look at the science. You either have to deny the validity of scientific data or ignore 99% of it in search of poorly-written fraudulent studies à la Andrew Wakefield.

 

[AutoTripper]

life altering

That's one simple way to summarise Agenda 21.

 

[nepalnt21]

i'm saddened that 25% of the people taking the poll will let conspiracy theory cynicism overtake careful judgement.

billions and billions of shots administered, they are patently and obviously safer than risking a gamble on the virus.

i am happy to see a much larger portion that have gotten vaccinated.

i just got my booster. felt like shit (lethargic) for a day, sore arm, nothing that i regret. much better than the potential effects of the virus, especially with new variants popping up.

 

[Mr. Krinkle]

Scientists Discover New Variant of Omicron That Is Difficult to Detect

The new version, called "stealth Omicron," by some researchers because it lacks a particular genetic change that allows it to be easily detected in PCR tests.

www.newsweek.com

Scientists have recently reported finding a new version of the Omicron coronavirus variant that is more difficult to identify using standard PCR coronavirus testing, leading experts to fear it may be spreading less noticeably around the world.

The new version has been dubbed "stealth Omicron" by some researchers because it lacks a particular genetic change that allows it to be easily detected in the lab-based COVID-19 tests, according to a report from The Guardian.

Researchers have said that this new version has other genetic features to differentiate itself from the standard Omicron variant. While it can still be detected as Omicron through genomic testing, studies have found that it is not as easily flagged by routine PCR tests that are used around the world to measure how quickly the virus is spreading, according to the news outlet.

This new version of Omicron was recently discovered among coronavirus genomes from South Africa, Australia and Canada, The Guardian reported. So far, researchers have said it is too early to tell whether the new form of Omicron, identified as BA.2, will spread in the same way as the standard Omicron variant, known as BA.1.

 

[birdup]

suggesting nobody needs it

I didn't say that. I'm just saying: you keep bringing it up outside of the context of people that might need it and then you said people aren't intelligent or open minded enough to listen to you. There is nobody in this thread looking for a treatment for pneumonia.

The apocalyptic radiation thing was also a joke.