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Conspiracies The Covid Narrative

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The vaccine adverse reaction rate is under reported. By many estimates, only 1% of ADRs are being reported. Still, the Yellow Card data in the UK and the VAERS data are very revealing. Critics say that self-reporting isn't reliable, but then if that's true then we have no pharmacoviligance whatsoever and these systems were always defunct. The truth is, the data is extremely useful by many metrics.

The U.S. shows a higher ADR rate possibly because there is more freedom of information compare to other countries. However, some hypothesize it could be due to the higher rate of comordbities in the USA. A counter to that is that the death rate in the U.S. due to covid19 itself is still the same as elsewhere: 0.1%... and so, the ADR declaration rate must also be realistic.
 
I love how the cases/deaths from the virus are over reported (with no explanation for the fact that they coincide with national excess deaths) but ADRs are under reported in the US.

Wouldn't the freedom of information logic apply to both situations?
 
Because we live in an insanely insidiously corrupt devious unimaginably comprehensively designed and I mean by design as in not accidental or per chance system which appears on its face to be a facade of incompetent morons fighting over power failing to agree and sort matters out this is the illusion we are presented with and it seems to be called politics!

That would be my immediate gut reaction as a genuine answer to that question.
 
I think we'll have to wait for the truth on this until someone examines the all-cause mortality numbers from various countries in 2020 and 2021. If there is a jump in heart attack (myocarditis) deaths or other red flag causes that overlap with known COVID vaccine side-effects, then we will have a clear idea of just how many it killed.

Assuming it doesn't all get covered up by some global scale internet "malfunction", of course.
 
thujone said:
I think we'll have to wait for the truth on this until someone examines the all-cause mortality numbers from various countries in 2020 and 2021. If there is a jump in heart attack (myocarditis) deaths or other red flag causes that overlap with known COVID vaccine side-effects, then we will have a clear idea of just how many it killed.

Assuming it doesn't all get covered up by some global scale internet "malfunction", of course.
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Sounds a lot like the election fraud stuff. I'm not connecting you to that. I don't know what your position was, but people said the same thing after examining the evidence with me. They said let's wait for more evidence to appear that confirms our belief because they really believed the evidence would appear. It didn't then, but maybe it will this time. I'm not joking. I don't know any more than you do.

It would be odd (and fairly unprecedented) in the modern world if every country independently failed to connect the dots on something as obvious as this. I'm not sure why we have to wait, honestly. We would know by now if the vaccines were causing heart attacks.

Most of the fear surrounding adverse reactions appears to be unfounded, much like the fear surrounding the actual virus. I blame the media.
 
Mr. Krinkle said:
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Australians say maths, rather than math. It is one of those rare cases in which the Queen's English is superior to American English. I hate the Queen's English. Because she was rimming some French aristocrat in some cobblestone alleyway, she decided "Fuck it, yes! Let's add a bunch of vowels into our words."

But, I agree with her on maths.

If it's mathematics, the abbreviation is maths.
 
birdup said:
I love how the cases/deaths from the virus are over reported (with no explanation for the fact that they coincide with national excess deaths) but ADRs are under reported in the US.

Wouldn't the freedom of information logic apply to both situations?
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Not if the regulatory agencies and oversight bodies have been infiltrated by corporations, which they have.

I have caught the government in so many lies during this pandemic, I can't keep track of them all. And I'm not even an MD. Plenty of MDs have also spoken out. My own MD spoke out two months ago, and now she has been suspended.

A lot of people still aren't seeing how serious this situation is. There are criminal acts being committed by the government. In Canada, there are multiple racketeering charges being brought against members of government, which is a criminal charge. I don't know if they will be successful, but the plaintiffs have huge evidence bodies to draw from.
 
Governments around the world have lied and corporations have lied. This is unfortunately to be expected considering the scope of the vaccine rollout. It doesn't prove conspiracy or indicate the existence of so-far undiscovered (but still, somehow, very specific?) evidence.

I do not believe the world is co-ordinated enough for every country in the world to successfully conspire together in the way that some of you are suggesting. You are giving the government too much credit. I also don't believe that every government is co-incidentally involved in the same conspiracy as each other without co-ordination.

Going to post one more thing and then I'll take a break. The sun is coming up. I need to go have a joint before the whole street wakes up and all the ambient sounds fuck with my vibe.

Australia has 9 deaths according to the TGA. 612 were reported.

We've administered 36.6 million doses.

Most of the 612 people that reported deaths in x amount of days after being vaccinated were elderly (65+). A substantial portion of these deaths must be coincidence, but let's assume none of them are. At the very worst - including all the old folks that would have died that week anyway - it's 1 in 60,000 people.

Many countries are up to 1 in 500 people dead from the virus. So, even considering the worst case scenario, it could be 120 times worse.

Now, let's not assume there are no coincidental deaths and instead assume that the experts are not morons. Let's not assume conspiracy and say (just for the sake of it) that we believe there are 9 confirmed deaths. That is one in four million jabs resulting in death. It's not the fucking end of the world.
 
deficiT said:
Probably because anyone with some semblance of sense is more concerned with the health of their families than your ape-shit conspiracy theories.
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which conspiracy theory would that be?
That it won't just be 2 weeks? That they'll restrict travel and slowly destroy the economy? That they'll mandate vaccines to make a living? That they'll then force them onto children?
Oh no wait, those were all ape-shit conspiracy theories that were accurate predictions. Those conspiracy theorists are either really smart or just dumb lucky.

Dropperneck said:
The neo liberals, rad libs, shit libs are awfully quite in this thread. TFW conspiracy theorists were right the whole time.
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When you emotionally invest into something that's based on your survival then you're probably going to double down. Plus you'd never want the other side to be right.
Once a someone becomes open to one conspiracy theory then it would force them to re-examine everything. That's why so many people were resistant to 9/11 obviously being fishy as fuk.
 
birdup said:
There needs to be more examples of this in Victoria for me to be convinced. I, too, find it amazing that fucking ANYONE "stands by Dan". I thought it was amazing a year ago. The guy is a fucking monkey. He reminds me of Biden. ScoMo (like him or not) isn't a little muppet. Neither is Putin. Dan is a fucking joke. I really hate him. His party caused the 2020 VIC outbreak then lied about it and lied about it and then pointed the finger elsewhere then lied about it some more. I hear you.

But, for me, that's just a normal day of the week.

I lost faith in politics long ago, but I don't believe the Australian people will tolerate being treated like the CCP treats Chinese nationals. I just don't. I'm going to wait until it happens then I will join you on the streets.

You make a lot of good points as usual, @JGrimez.



So what was Dan's explanation for passing a bill specifically so that he can IGNORE medical advice?
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I think the consensus logic was that politicians are elected - as opposed to CHOs - so if the elected leaders make unilateral public health decisions then we can hold them accountable.
I guess they're either not scared of being voted out (the charade of the 2 major parties being separated is getting exposed with this new bipartisan covid/climate agenda that's being rolled out).
Or they're confident that their propaganda + heavy-handed police tactics will be adequate to subdue a mostly apathetic and non-revolutionary Australian public.
 
birdup said:
Governments around the world have lied and corporations have lied. This is unfortunately to be expected considering the scope of the vaccine rollout. It doesn't prove conspiracy or indicate the existence of so-far undiscovered (but still, somehow, very specific?) evidence.

I do not believe the world is co-ordinated enough for every country in the world to successfully conspire together in the way that some of you are suggesting. You are giving the government too much credit. I also don't believe that every government is co-incidentally involved in the same conspiracy as each other without co-ordination.

Going to post one more thing and then I'll take a break. The sun is coming up. I need to go have a joint before the whole street wakes up and all the ambient sounds fuck with my vibe.

Australia has 9 deaths according to the TGA. 612 were reported.

We've administered 36.6 million doses.

Most of the 612 people that reported deaths in x amount of days after being vaccinated were elderly (65+). A substantial portion of these deaths must be coincidence, but let's assume none of them are. At the very worst - including all the old folks that would have died that week anyway - it's 1 in 60,000 people.

Many countries are up to 1 in 500 people dead from the virus. So, even considering the worst case scenario, it could be 120 times worse.

Now, let's not assume there are no coincidental deaths and instead assume that the experts are not morons. Let's not assume conspiracy and say (just for the sake of it) that we believe there are 9 confirmed deaths. That is one in four million jabs resulting in death. It's not the fucking end of the world.
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I simply wish you peace and solace to(day?) sorry I'm confused.

Even here. I woke up 10.30 pm Wednesday night, believing it was about 6 am here.
 
birdup said:
Governments around the world have lied and corporations have lied. This is unfortunately to be expected considering the scope of the vaccine rollout. It doesn't prove conspiracy or indicate the existence of so-far undiscovered (but still, somehow, very specific?) evidence.

I do not believe the world is co-ordinated enough for every country in the world to successfully conspire together in the way that some of you are suggesting. You are giving the government too much credit. I also don't believe that every government is co-incidentally involved in the same conspiracy as each other without co-ordination.

Going to post one more thing and then I'll take a break. The sun is coming up. I need to go have a joint before the whole street wakes up and all the ambient sounds fuck with my vibe.

Australia has 9 deaths according to the TGA. 612 were reported.

We've administered 36.6 million doses.

Most of the 612 people that reported deaths in x amount of days after being vaccinated were elderly (65+). A substantial portion of these deaths must be coincidence, but let's assume none of them are. At the very worst - including all the old folks that would have died that week anyway - it's 1 in 60,000 people.

Many countries are up to 1 in 500 people dead from the virus. So, even considering the worst case scenario, it could be 120 times worse.

Now, let's not assume there are no coincidental deaths and instead assume that the experts are not morons. Let's not assume conspiracy and say (just for the sake of it) that we believe there are 9 confirmed deaths. That is one in four million jabs resulting in death. It's not the fucking end of the world.
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So since they've lied before, they should be expected to lie again.....so you should sit it out and wait since it's still highly unlikely that you'll even end up in the hospital from covid if you even catch it

that would be the wise thing to do instead of running out there into the unknown of covid shots that barely work that you have to keep getting every 3 months just in case you might get a little sick from a cold
 
Maybe it is not wise to be vaccinated. I'm not approaching it from a spiritual perspective. We are saving lives. That's good enough for me. Sometimes fools are noble. Wisdom is overrated. Wise people often seem lonely. There is a sadness in knowing too much, I think.

@Mr. Krinkle

For all your wisdom, you've repeatedly failed to construct a sensible argument.

Perhaps we are all fools.
 
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