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Thinking about quitting smoking. I want to invest in a vaporizer, and only vaporize from now on. Sure, I'll smoke a blunt with some friends once in a while, but I think the whole idea is to cut down on the intake of smoke, and to use Cannabis for what I benefit from it the most, such as aiding in my sleep, and helping me maintain a decent diet. I've lost interest in smoking in groups, it makes me quiet and anti-social nowadays, and I find it much more beneficial when I'm alone and able to think to myself without worrying about silly shit that can bring on unnecessary paranoia.

I agree with much of what you said and i have recently been looking at the 'Magic Flight Launch Box' vaporiser. It looks like a good portable and reasonably priced vape. Has anyone one here had the chance to try one of these out? they seem to get consistenly good reviews.
 
Trial of cannabis withdrawal drug begins

Trial of cannabis withdrawal drug begins

AUSTRALIAN researchers have begun what they say is a world-first study into a drug to manage withdrawal from cannabis.
Trials are underway in Sydney and Newcastle of the drug Sativex, a botanical extract of cannabis administered through a mouth spray.

The Director of the Cannabis Prevention and Information Centre Professor Jan Copeland said there is currently no targeted drug available for regular cannabis users.
"If we can provide evidence that Sativex is useful in this very controlled condition we will then be really ready to test it in community-based studies," Professor Copeland said.
"And if that also proves to be successful we will for the first time ever have a targeted medication for the management of cannabis withdrawal."
Withdrawal is a big obstacle for regular cannabis users when they try to give up.

The biggest symptom is sleep difficulty. Mood swings and cravings are also not uncommon.
"Although these are not life-threatening, they are significant enough to cause marked distress and lead people to go back to using the drug," Professor Copeland said.
Because Sativex is a mouth spray it avoids the respiratory harm associated with smoking cannabis, he said.
A study released last week showed that Australia has the highest rate of cannabis use globally.​

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NO people - Sadly it will not be legalised. You guys are dreaming if you think it will be... every month nearly MORE and more laws are passed restricting cannabis users choices etc. Just this year ALREADY the anti bong laws were passed in NSW on january one !


America will not legalise - It is NOT on the agenda. The government ships in the drugs and gives WEAPONS to mexican cartels to kill cartels that are not paying teh billions in bribe money to the criminal government.

Any promises to legalise are bullshit. Any promises PERIOD from government ARE BULLSHIT and it is naieve to believe anything government tells you..



I get calls annually from "bluelight" police ball bullshit to riase money for the fucking anti drug warning booklets for kids..


I read one! It listed LSD, CAnnabis, Acid, MEth, etc etc etc..



LSD, ACID.... LIKE THEY ARE 2 DIFFERENT THINGS!!!!???

Fuck that... the gov is full of shit period and is now working AGAINST anything you desire, unless you are after hardcore tyranny and full on freedom restrictions + a dictator.

Can't even fly a kite on Cottesloe beach in W.A anymore! Or build sandcastles! ITS LAW !!!
 
As far as i knew bongs have been illegal in nsw for ages. I mean sure you could buy some from tobacconists but they dont display them and dont advertise the fact. And if cops find one in your room or something (especially if it has been used) you can face a charge for having a smoking implement, as i gather you could also for a used Vap, even tho they say they are incense diffusers or someshit on the box.
 
^^^ agree with TripppAR. People can dream on about legalizing Cannabis use in Australia but this will not happen, period. As said, drug laws here are getting tighter not slacker and yay-sayers need to stop dreaming and deal with reality. We growers/users would obviously love to take the criminality out of what we do but there are way too many do-gooders with skewed opinions poisoning and panicking the masses and the media happily plays along. Unlike the 70's there is no political movement (like the AMP) or organization (NORML?) prepared to push this agenda in public forum nor an individual or group prepared to be the public face that takes on the nay-sayers. Anti-drug laws are a work in progress designed to keep the public blinkered and fearful of the scourge of drugs. No way would there be any political willingness to neuter the 'progress' made by repealing or in any way softening the stance against recreational drug consumption. It will remain 'us' and 'them' for the foreseeable future and means we will ourselves become more stealthy, efficient, informed and determined to keep doing what we do. I think we're in for a long haul.
 
NO people - Sadly it will not be legalised. You guys are dreaming if you think it will be... every month nearly MORE and more laws are passed restricting cannabis users choices etc. Just this year ALREADY the anti bong laws were passed in NSW on january one !

America is rapidly changing however.

@Losthippy, you need to read some of the articles in America of high ranking officials speaking out against marijuana laws and individuals and organisations going up against the laws there at the moment. Although most of that is for Medical Marijuana. That is legal enough for me.
 
I agree with much of what you said and i have recently been looking at the 'Magic Flight Launch Box' vaporiser. It looks like a good portable and reasonably priced vape. Has anyone one here had the chance to try one of these out? they seem to get consistenly good reviews.
I also looked at the magic lunch box but decided against it as you need to guess when the temperature is right - seemed like too much hassle to me. Instead I settled on a WISPR and have found it to be generally excellent. Although I have had 2 friends get WISPRs too and they have both broken them (I suspect through overfilling with butane - not to mention general caning). One is being repaired under warranty which involves posting to Ireland and is taking AGES.
 
I'm well-read mate and stoked there is progress in your neck of the woods. Australia, unfortunately, is as stated. We do tend to pick up on some American trends but rethinking our Prohibitionist policies in line with you blokes on pot use in the near future is a pipe dream :(
 
Im pretty sure he's aussie. This debate is old and will go on forever, until something does change. Atleast it has changed over in USA in some places with the medical pot and the gallop poll stating that 50% of americans wont it legalised.

Who knows.
 
but rethinking our Prohibitionist policies in line with you blokes on pot use in the near future is a pipe dream

Alot of places in the usa are way more strict than us here in oz with pot. Atleast we have the cannabis caution system in alot of states allowing you to get busted with 15 grams or under and not goto court. Some places in USA you can still goto jail for that amount and for a first offence, like the article i linked a bit back in this thread.
 
It was Victoria that has made it illegal to sell bongs starting Jan 1st, I read something last week..

Here's one: Retailers that sell bongs face $36,000 fines
 
It was Victoria that has made it illegal to sell bongs starting Jan 1st, I read something last week..

Here's one: Retailers that sell bongs face $36,000 fines

Yeah when i searched that's all i found too. Nothing on nsw. But i didnt search too hard.
 
Yeah I ended up needing to replace my scales on January 1st (when the new Victorian bong laws took place) and ended up in a headshop, its not like you can't get bongs they just call them 'pourers' now. Its exactly the same shit I saw in a sex shop on the Gold Coast in late 2010. Just made to look slightly more ornamental, the cone turned upside down when not in use and a wooden stopper in the top. It really is a joke thats all it takes to circumvent the law yet they tout this shit like it will make a change, (not that it would change cannabis use if they did totally outlaw bongs anyway) all they want is to look like they are doing something but they clearly don't give a shit whether what they are claiming to do actually gets done.

I also got told they were outlawing blunt wraps at some point due to bans on flavoured tobacco, they were selling them half price. I enquired at a headshop more local to me today and they didn't have any wraps, didn't comment on the legality of them but I have got wraps from there on atleast one prior occassion...

TripppAR dude, you believe some out there shit but its always an entertaining read. I like a conspiracy theory as much as the next guy but you take it to the extreme, in my opinion the US Government gets away with untold atrocities but there is no way they could pull off some of that shit you frequently allege. Regardless of what you think their 'agenda' is, if they are going to keep up the charade of the people being in control then at some point they have to bend to what the people want, in the case of cannabis legalisation the support is mounting. Even if everything you said was true how do you suppose they keep it illegal when 80% or more start supporting the change? Theres no science to keeping it illegal the ONLY way they can still get away with it is there isn't really overwhelming public opinion one way or the other, but it is headed one way and that is pro legalisation.
 
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I'm well-read mate and stoked there is progress in your neck of the woods. Australia, unfortunately, is as stated. We do tend to pick up on some American trends but rethinking our Prohibitionist policies in line with you blokes on pot use in the near future is a pipe dream :(

In the country that has the highest marijuana use, I think all we need is a younger generation in power.
 
i don't know if it is that simple. yes - there are a number of US states that have legislated to allow legal, medically sanctioned cannabis. federally, however, it is still as illegal as ever before.
it is only under Obama that federal law enforcement have backed off from prosecuting dispensaries under federal law.
that is far from full legalisation, and as other people have pointed out, there are still plenty of states that are nowhere near decriminalising cannabis.
the USA is a big country, which is different from australia in that it contains many cultural/social/political variations and a multitude of political paradigms. that is to say that the "liberal" states like oregon or california have a very different set of beliefs to others such as alabama or the other southern, conservative "bible belt" states. the "mainstream" varies a lot, depending on where you are and your take on history.

another huge difference from australia is the american power-struggle between state and federal authorities.
laws can vary greatly from one state to another, and laws that are applicable nationally are decided by representatives from all over the country. this means that progressive legislation (such as the legalisation/liberalisation of cannabis) is unlikely to gain full acceptance nationally. local laws can be much more varied, but certain things are still subject to federal regulation - such as drugs.

although more and more progressives are open to the idea of legalising cannabis, there is still a huge proportion of the right that believes the Drug War hype about "gateway drugs" and all that horse shit.
don't forget this is the nation that came up with the idea of banning all psychoactive drugs (except alcohol, cigarettes and pharmaceuticals) to begin with, and in all its superpower wisdom, forced the rest of the world to follow suit.
there is more than a little political pride at stake here.

the usa has made some amazing steps forward in regard to cannabis law reform, but there is still a very long way to go.
and the progress we have seen is all very precarious - all it would take would be for the Republicans to take back control in Congress and all of the dispensaries would be shut down very quickly, i imagine. it's not like it hasn't happened before, and no doubt it is very contentious.
can you imagine the people who have made a career out of demonising and policing drug traffic accepting legalisation without a fight? these are some very powerful forces - be they government, FBI, FDA, DEA, DHS or some other government body.
these are hugely funded institutions with a great deal of authority and influence, be it propaganda, political sway or kicking your front door down in the middle of the night and pointing machine guns at your family.

some very impressive change has been affected in the last few years in america, but i think it would be naive to think it is going to be an easy battle. the prohibition of drugs is an enormous industry that employs a huge amount of people, and has become increasingly militarised in the last couple of decades.
according to wikipedia;
"The United States has the highest documented incarceration rate in the world. At year-end 2009 it was 743 adults incarcerated per 100,000 population...Perhaps the single greatest force behind the growth of the prison population has been the national "war on drugs." The number of incarcerated drug offenders has increased twelvefold since 1980. In 2000, 22 percent of those in federal and state prisons were convicted on drug charges."

i find it difficult to imagine a nation going from having the most prisoners of any country in the world - a large bulk of which are non-violent drug offences - to having a liberal approach to drug law.
public opinion doesn't really matter - there would have to be some pretty immense shifts in american society to go from "just say no"to legalising cannabis in a few decades. in the lack of any "credible threat" in the "war on terror", much attention has been turned to drug traffic, as federal law enforcement has to find reasons to spend its budget somehow.
i'm not saying it won't ever happen, but i don't expect to see full legalisation of cannabis for 30 years at least. i would love to see a shift to sane drug law reform in my lifetime, but there are a lot of uptight old people that will have to drop off the perch before that can happen, and unfortunately a lot of young conservatives taking their place.
drug laws are used to divide people - this works well in a country like america. many states have laws on the books that felons are not allowed to vote, which means huge proportions of certain communities have no democratic voice whatsoever. to think that this is unintentional, or something the ruling class wants to change would be incredibly naive; it is by design.

as for australia? ha - don't make me laugh.
this is the land that time forgot. we're just about ready for another round of menzies' 1950s time warp, and it seems to be what the punters want. drug law reform is not on the agenda for any major political players here - our single-voice, sensationalist media has made sure of that, as well as a public that is suspicious of any form of progressive ideology.
our government is too busy demonising drug users and pandering to (you guessed it) the american government to ever question drug policy. even if they wanted to, it is not going to happen. unless the USA does...we'll think about it 40 years later. ho hum.
pass me my vaporiser?
 
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