The Bikie Wars

[ace99]

They just associate with them and once they prove themselves they get the initiation then they are doin all the dirty work for them. Each new member has to put in work and bring money to the club sort of like paying membership fees.

I wonder how that guy i went to school with even meet these guys because he was a nerd and a pussy if shit hits the fan this guy would be the first to run so i dont even know why a bikie would even talk to him.It must be really easy to get in they might even recruit from the internet LOL

 

[Sustanon]

I wonder how that guy i went to school with even meet these guys because he was a nerd and a pussy if shit hits the fan this guy would be the first to run so i dont even know why a bikie would even talk to him.It must be really easy to get in they might even recruit from the internet LOL

Dont under estimate people man, he mite have sum useful qualities that the bikies can make use from.

 

[Crankinit]

'Nerd'? Maybe he has an indepth knowledge of chemistry they can put to good use...

 

[ace99]

Here in syd the rebels r the most powerful by far they have more members than all the other clubs put together.I heard that its much easier becoming a member of the rebels than other clubs because all they care about is u coming in and paying club fees and making money of u .It will also benefit u more being in the biggest group because if a war breaks u have the numbers plus u would have more connections in drug and other stuff

 

[Verybuffed]

Canberra is a Rebel's town. There is also a rule here that no one is allowed to wear colours. It caused problems when the Ulysees group came here for their annual conference a few years back.

 

[Sustanon]

Here in syd the rebels r the most powerful by far they have more members than all the other clubs put together.I heard that its much easier becoming a member of the rebels than other clubs because all they care about is u coming in and paying club fees and making money of u .It will also benefit u more being in the biggest group because if a war breaks u have the numbers plus u would have more connections in drug and other stuff

Numbers dont mean much at all. Just look at the mafia living in Melbourne. Theres only a few of them and they are one of the wealthiest most powerful gangs in the world.

 

[ace99]

Numbers dont mean much at all. Just look at the mafia living in Melbourne. Theres only a few of them and they are one of the wealthiest most powerful gangs in the world.

Yes BUT those guys r gangsters noone fucks with gangsters.In syd the asians run every thing when a bikie gets caught its usauly a few ounces of coke or a few 1000 dollars when asians get busted its always millions of dollars and kilos of heroin.Who is going to fuck with those guys NOONE.But bikies r usaully street level guys who fight with other clubs so it would be in your best interest to be in the rebels there would b no point joining another club because u will always be in a secondstring club

 

[thestudent14]

Yes BUT those guys r gangsters noone fucks with gangsters.In syd the asians run every thing when a bikie gets caught its usauly a few ounces of coke or a few 1000 dollars when asians get busted its always millions of dollars and kilos of heroin.Who is going to fuck with those guys NOONE.But bikies r usaully street level guys who fight with other clubs so it would be in your best interest to be in the rebels there would b no point joining another club because u will always be in a secondstring club

I dunno about that, I don't think its overly relevant being in the gang with more numbers. It's all about organisation.

What you forget is that the most organised crime gangs are the ones that you here nothing about, their smarter with who they do and don't let into their syndicate.

 

[ace99]

I was reading the newspaper and in germany the hells angels and bandidos r going at it.Thats a real war a guy had his leg cut off with an axe and both sides have been killed and also a cop got murdered.It looks like the hells angels are going to come out on top with 80 bandidos changing sides and joining the angels.If you look at bikie wars around the world the hells angels always come out on top.The aus HA are completley differant from the american and europeon hells angels they dont have that fearless drive,since the airport brawl the comos have opend a chapter in perth and melbourn the angels have done nothing and they still havent taken revenge can u imagine the german ha if a small club like the commos fucked with them

 

[OND43X]

I was reading the newspaper and in germany the hells angels and bandidos r going at it.Thats a real war a guy had his leg cut off with an axe and both sides have been killed and also a cop got murdered.It looks like the hells angels are going to come out on top with 80 bandidos changing sides and joining the angels.If you look at bikie wars around the world the hells angels always come out on top.The aus HA are completley differant from the american and europeon hells angels they dont have that fearless drive,since the airport brawl the comos have opend a chapter in perth and melbourn the angels have done nothing and they still havent taken revenge can u imagine the german ha if a small club like the commos fucked with them

thats not true... there have been revenge attacks, its just 'the code of silence' and the fact some of it doesnt make the news. the hells angels were responsible for shootings in flemington just afew days after the attack. and the person who said the asians run everything is abit far fetched.... asians are more involved in organised crime in their own communities. motor cycle gangs and lebanese/middle eastern gangs are the main players in sydney

 

[OND43X]

asians are the main players in the white herion obviously cos it comes from asia. they are significate in the production and importation of meth/mdma but def not main players in brown herion and cocaine

 

[ace99]

thats not true... there have been revenge attacks, its just 'the code of silence' and the fact some of it doesnt make the news. the hells angels were responsible for shootings in flemington just afew days after the attack. and the person who said the asians run everything is abit far fetched.... asians are more involved in organised crime in their own communities. motor cycle gangs and lebanese/middle eastern gangs are the main players in sydney

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...-to-repair-image/story-fn2mt2ft-1225700291039

This article explains it all.They have done nothing the us bosses wanted to shut them down.This will fuck them in the long run because how will they find new recruits who would want to join them now with the rep they have as not backing each other and being disrespected by a low level bikie gang run by a 28 year old and doing nothing they even had all the como adresses sent to them by mistake by the court and still didnt do nothing.I dont even think if it got shut down the guys would be able to join another group because i dont think any other club will have them

 

[thestudent14]

I heard from a friend so it's possible it's not true, but his not someone who makes shit up either. And his family friend deals To the bikies their speed so he hears quite a few stories.

He said that apparently one of the hells angels wifes got beaten up by another gang and they didn't seek revenge for it. Apparently the Amercian Hells Angels have been calling the Australian branch that they need to harden the fuck up, of they will be completely detached from all the other hells angels in the rest of the world.

 

[mofo]

yes student i heard they canceled their annual poker run and have been banned from the U.S ride this year..

 

[thestudent14]

This might be slightly off topic and not sure if anyone can give a response as a certainty? But the Australian hells angels losing connections to the rest of the world, do you think this would affect their drug trade much? I don't know how much stuff they get imported. I know most bikies tend to get stuff locally and ship it around the country, but Being as widespread as the hells angels are, does anyone know if they import much stuff in?

 

[Sustanon]

This might be slightly off topic and not sure if anyone can give a response as a certainty? But the Australian hells angels losing connections to the rest of the world, do you think this would affect their drug trade much? I don't know how much stuff they get imported. I know most bikies tend to get stuff locally and ship it around the country, but Being as widespread as the hells angels are, does anyone know if they import much stuff in?

No im pretty sure they dont import. They have connections tho with alot of major importers. They are usually just distributing it street level. Some of the stuff that they sell would be there own product but in small quantities. Ive never heard of any bikies being charged for large (and i mean large) amounts of drugs or mass productive labs.

 

[thestudent14]

^ yeah I figured as much, just wasn't sure.

 

[ace99]

This might be slightly off topic and not sure if anyone can give a response as a certainty? But the Australian hells angels losing connections to the rest of the world, do you think this would affect their drug trade much? I don't know how much stuff they get imported. I know most bikies tend to get stuff locally and ship it around the country, but Being as widespread as the hells angels are, does anyone know if they import much stuff in?

I dont think bikies have that type of contacts for drugs because most of the shit comes from asia even the coke goes from south american to asia then here.What this is going to fuck them on is weapons even the mexican Cartels get their guns from American it would be easy to send stuff from the us here beacause therir are lots of buisnesses that australia imports stuff from the us.I was thinking the americans should of sent afew heavies here after it happend

The angels here fucked themselves because on notiriety alone they should of had no trouble being the biggest and baddest anywhere the angels go they take over look at europe and the us.What fucked the ha here was the leaders were old school and didnt adapt to the new times and only recruited othe old school guys only now young people are joing the ha but too late they r way behind and the lack of getting revenge and being disrespected + joing the umcc was a pussy move.I dont think the americans know how bad it is here if they did they would of been shut down by now

 

[kingpin007]

Ex-bikie 'sorry' about fatal brawl

GEESCHE JACOBSEN CRIME EDITOR

June 10, 2010

AS Anthony Zervas lay dying in the Sydney domestic airport terminal, four Comanchero bikies jumped in a taxi back to the home of their boss's mum.

It was there that one of them, Christian Menzies, allegedly said he had killed Anthony Zervas, according to a church-going former bikie known only as AL who apologised in the District Court yesterday for his role in the events that Sunday afternoon in March last year.

The first fight had erupted at the terminal shortly after 1.30pm, outside Gate 5, when the Comanchero president, Mick Hawi, had hit the president of the rival Hells Angels, Derek Wainohu. This developed into a two-minute ''brawling mass'', according to a document tendered in court, where AL is being sentenced for his role in the event.

A series of fights erupted about five minutes later in the departure hall. Words turned to punches and kicks before metal stands were swung with ''extreme wickedness'', in the words of a witness.

Soon, Anthony Zervas was lying on the floor, at which point AL allegedly saw Mr Menzies pick up a bin and hit him twice. After the second hit, Mr Zervas no longer moved.

AL, who had been a Comanchero nominee for only a few months, left the club five days later.

A fortnight after he was arrested, he gave evidence to police about what had happened. He has been fearing for his and his family's safety since.

Yesterday, AL apologised to Mr Zervas's parents and ''everyone that was there that day''. ''Hand on my heart I'm very sorry what happened,'' he said.

AL - an imposing figure with a criminal record - had been in church earlier that day, taking his child to Sunday school. Later he received a call and was picked up by a fellow Comanchero. According to AL, he believed they were going to pick up Mr Hawi, but on the way to the airport, he learnt Hells Angels were expected to be there.

He thought there might be a fight, but believed bikie rules state ''you don't do that in front of other people''.

There was bad blood between the clubs, a dispute over drug distribution territory, he later told police.

In the first fight AL, who has pleaded guilty to riot and affray and had murder charges against him dropped, had instinctively punched someone after being hit, while in the second he had chased someone and was away from Mr Zervas.

The court also heard that police would allege the club's road captain, Fares Abounader, had earlier stabbed Mr Zervas.

Ten Comanchero are charged with murder; another one, who also promised to give evidence at their trial, is facing lesser charges. Three Hells Angels have also been charged.

The court adjourned AL's sentencing until next week.

http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/exbikie-sorry-about-fatal-brawl-20100609-xwxz.html

 

[aero]

Bikies arn't really bikies anymore. Just criminal organisations. IMO our police are pretty shit at stopping them - Australian police are pretty much a joke.