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Benzos The Big Phenazepam Throw Together Pt. I

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Does anyone else notice a "lack of taste" when dosing their phenazepam. I know you don't try to taste it, but usually I can taste pills or powders at least on some level. With phen. I don't taste a thing. Anyone else?
 
Well I taste mint with clonazepam, so goes to show you. With pure diaz I tasted pretty much nothing either, accept had to dose a lot more powder at once, especially since I had a tolerance, but still, pretty bland. Not all powders are bitter. In any case, I'm very happy with what I got. Even if it is cut, and so far I have no reason to believe it is. Plus, you get SO MUCH for SO LITTLE, that I don't see how this matters. Take more then, to equal what you should be feeling. Wow, 2.5mg over the course of 2.5hrs and I'm buzzing really good, not groggy or tired at all. My cognitive functionable abilities are more or less all there, nice and cripse. I hesitate to say "fully there", but only because whenever you take ANY depressant (doesn't have to be a depressant but I assume you get what I'm explaining), you inevitably slow down your cognitive abilities even if just a tiny bit. It's inherant in their mechanism of action.

Some might argue that since they become to relaxed (without being groggy I mean, so shooting for relaxed and not RELAXXXXED), that their mental capabilities are increased, because they can then really focus on things. I think this is definately true as well. So, it's a fine balance, which is actually very easy if you dive into it with "smart intentions". :)
 
I used a scale accurate to 10mg. This isn't good enough for me, because I want to gelcap it all. I'm not worried about losing any, I just don't want to gelcap a PG infusion. Unless...would this work or would it errode the gelcaps? I'm saving up for a scale accurate to .01mg at least, but hopefully a .000mg because then I could make some very uniform caps. I need it to know exactly how much I'm dealing with in the first place. The PG method is great, but for most mindful dosing, you need to know just how concentrated the solution really is. Some sources are not even accurate to the nearest gram, and some even throw in a extra gram or 2 depending on how much you got. This obviously makes a huge difference, at least for me.
 
You should really use a mg scale for preparing the solution, but I can't imagine it would eat through the gelcaps since it is used in the manufacture of so many. Try capping some up w/o phenaz, see how it lasts. (and how fragile it is).
 
Ya, that's what I'm going to do. It needs to be able to store for quite some time. I don't want to do this more than once a week (at MOST), so if it stores like a month easy, that'd be awesome. If it holds it decent for at least a week, I'll just occasionally go through them and then cap the shriveled/bent/leaking caps into bigger emtpy ones. Better yet (thought of it while typing this), I'll get the standard 00s (the larger ones that most healh/dietary suppliments use for caps, and then the smaller ones inside them with the phen (the smaller average size of the 2 standard pham sizes. There's the ones that are the size with like adderall gelcaps, and then the one ones that Tylenol gelcaps are made out of. The smallest one could fit in that even, and then place that in the larger one, and that in the larger one. :) Yea it'd take slightly longer (really not that much longer at all) to dissolve it all in the stomach, and I imagine this would be great for storage.
 
i got some gear off the chemist, needles, alcohol wipes, citric adic and some strange strarilsering bowl

i CANNOT inject anything alcohol becuse I'm an alcoholic on Anatabuse medication...

how could i get a good method for it to be best disolveable in a syrine mixture for phenazepam?


got 1250mg of the stuff coming tommorow, along with drug testing kits so i can do a little check to make sure the powder is a benzo
 
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welsh: most people here use propylene glycol, which is used in IV diazepam.

Korey: I would assume so, since they act on the same receptors. It's gotta be limited somehow though, because the mechanisms of action aren't precisely the same.
 
DexterMeth said:
Are people reporting any bad effects (other than that of taking too much phenaz) from cheaper sources that use cuts? I'd think if you just eat the stuff, there wouldn't be enough material of any common cut for you to notice "nasty effects" no? What seller would cut their cheap benzo powders with another active ingrediant?
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In the stuff that I sampled that was cut, I did not detect anything besides phenazepam.
 
DexterMeth said:
Some might argue that since they become to relaxed (without being groggy I mean, so shooting for relaxed and not RELAXXXXED), that their mental capabilities are increased, because they can then really focus on things. I think this is definately true as well. So, it's a fine balance, which is actually very easy if you dive into it with "smart intentions". :)
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This is how it feels for me and why I take it although the situation may becoming reversed. My original intention was to battle anxiety so I could stop being housebound and get things done. Now it seems it may be useful to stop me doing too much at once. I am suspected bipolar with noone willing to take it seriously.
 
It's a really hard line to tread. I know I need some amount of benzos right now just to keep me from laying in bed and throwing up all day, but I'm also trying to avoid a hardcore dependence. I know it seems like there's a huge gap between the two, but for some it can be difficult to tell the difference.
 
Thanks man....the worst part about it is, I look fine on the outside so no one ever believes me. Everyone assumes I'm just some druggie trying to get high, even my family.
 
MescalitoBandito said:
It's a really hard line to tread. I know I need some amount of benzos right now just to keep me from laying in bed and throwing up all day, but I'm also trying to avoid a hardcore dependence. I know it seems like there's a huge gap between the two, but for some it can be difficult to tell the difference.
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Yeah, it's not really that big of a difference. I try to take low doses and as infrequently as possible, but I still am physically addicted to these drugs... (ones with long half-lives, namely...)
 
MescalitoBandito said:
welsh: most people here use propylene glycol, which is used in IV diazepam.

Korey: I would assume so, since they act on the same receptors. It's gotta be limited somehow though, because the mechanisms of action aren't precisely the same.
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but isnt Propylene glycol a alcohol? that will make me violently sick due the Anatabuse im taking??
 
^There would be an interaction, yes

Propylene Glycol/Disulfiram

This information is generalized and not intended as specific medical advice. Consult your healthcare professional before taking or discontinuing any drug or commencing any course of treatment.

Medical warning:

Severe. These medicines may interact and cause very harmful effects and are usually not taken together. Contact your healthcare professional (e.g. doctor or pharmacist) for more information.

How the interaction occurs:

The liquid form of amprenavir contains propylene glycol. Disulfiram decreases your body's ability to process propylene glycol.

What might happen:

Levels of propylene glycol may build up in your body. This may cause seizures, confusion, a fast heartbeat, or problems with your kidneys or blood.

What you should do about this interaction:

Contact your healthcare professionals (e.g. doctor or pharmacist) as soon as possible about taking these two medicines together. They may already be aware of this interaction and may be monitoring you for it. Do not start, stop, or change the dosage of any medicine before checking with them first.SOURCE
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